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[Robodoon]

http://911weknow.com/events.htm

Comment: Its nice to see so much coming out...and isn't it strange that most isn't mentioned in the MSM....what I'm I saying...its not strange at all.

The day it happened I said the towers were blown as I watched them come down. Since then nothing has show otherwise, instead more proof then one can handle.



I don't think Bush did it, he isn't smart enough,Bush is just a puppet and really so is his evil dad.... but I would say he knew something was going to happen, plausible deniability is standard in black ops...isn't it?

David Rockefeller calls for disaster

We are on the verge of a global transformation. All we need is the right major crisis and the nations will accept the New World Order. - David Rockefeller


1, David Rockefeller speaking at the UN, Sept. 14, 1994. 109.
http://www.newswithviews.com/BeritKjos/kjos60.htm#_ftn1

Feb 10 1988
The Washington Post quotes David Rockefeller remarking that Quote: “he’s [George Bush]
One of us [“The Establishment”]… If he were president, he would be in a better position than anyone else to pull together the people in the country who believe that we are in fact living in one world and have to act that way”




Quote: "My dad plays a big role in my life as a shadow government" source The Quiet Dynasty" Time Aug. 7 2000


1990 February 28 President Bush in fund raising speech in SF

Quote: "Time and again in this century, the political map of the world was transformed. And in each instance, a new world order came about through the advent of a new tyrant or the outbreak of a bloody global war, or its end.

September 14, 2001: Former Senator Gary Hart addressed an emergency session of the Council on Foreign Relations; he stated:


Quote: "There is a chance for the President of the United States to use this disaster . . . to carry out what his father - a phrase his father used I think only once, and it hasn't been used since - and that is a new world order."


Quote: "It is the sacred principles enshrined in the United Nations charter to which the American people will henceforth pledge their allegiance."

President George Bush addressing the General Assembly of the U.N., February 1,1992.

[Gremlin]

Im actually surprised how much the general public is in the know now (maybe because im in Cali...? im not sure). Its funny because i hear it in the chatter amongst others... not necessarily about 9/11 it self but the overall surrounding "conspiracy". I was out of town last week and was chillin in a bar and heard a conversation about the illuminati. So i decided to listen in from a far... :-D ...Everyone has some sort of vice that is a direct link to the "conspiracy". September 11th was the calling, some in religious terms, others in what they know.

Hopefully it is only a matter of time before the clock strikes the 11th hour and the people rise up to take back our constitutional republic...

The evidence is pretty obvious about USG involvement, unfortunately losing the individuals involved really put a cramp on what the US is trying to do at the moment... witch leads to people keeping quiet... at the moment. The other problem is that even the people on our side of the tracks are still generally scared along with everyone else about the hate mongering bearded terrorist that hate us for our freedoms. In a way due to the environment that we live in they sit on the fence.

[Robodoon]

Gremlin wrote: Im actually surprised how much the general public is in the know now (maybe because im in Cali...? im not sure). Its funny because i hear it in the chatter amongst others... not necessarily about 9/11 it self but the overall surrounding "conspiracy". I was out of town last week and was chillin in a bar and heard a conversation about the illuminati. So i decided to listen in from a far... :-D ...Everyone has some sort of vice that is a direct link to the "conspiracy". September 11th was the calling, some in religious terms, others in what they know.

Hopefully it is only a matter of time before the clock strikes the 11th hour and the people rise up to take back our constitutional republic...

The evidence is pretty obvious about USG involvement, unfortunately losing the individuals involved really put a cramp on what the US is trying to do at the moment... witch leads to people keeping quiet... at the moment. The other problem is that even the people on our side of the tracks are still generally scared along with everyone else about the hate mongering bearded terrorist that hate us for our freedoms. In a way due to the environment that we live in they sit on the fence.

Hey thats good to hear, what bar is that? I'm really fun at bars...last time I was in one I cleared the whole bar out. LOL I could see the glassy eyes all the way on the other side of the Bar, the conversions of sports and girls dryed up....and everyone got silent, then the bar tender told me I wasn't allowed to talk about politics or religion...it would seem I go to the the wrong bars ;) LOL ;)

I certainly hope the people are waking up, but the problem is the MSM. They shout louder then the people, so they can make it seem everyone is dealing with their media practical topics, this was also a problem in NAZI germany. The Loud speaker has a great effect on preception and the backing up of using force for said reasons.

We are walking a tight rope, there are a number of things that will be done if we don't have the "voice" to back up our claims. In voice I mean leadership, we have to have some of them get on board...without their support...we can be crushed very easily...all we need is the right crisis and the rules will change again.

I'm happy to hear what your saying, its hopeful. And hope is a wonderful thing.

[Gremlin]

Robodoon wrote: Hey thats good to hear, what bar is that? I'm really fun at bars...last time I was in one I cleared the whole bar out. LOL I could see the glassy eyes all the way on the other side of the Bar, the conversions of sports and girls dryed up....and everyone got silent, then the bar tender told me I wasn't allowed to talk about politics or religion...it would seem I go to the the wrong bars ;) LOL ;)


In lovely Yuma Arizona... Its an 'ole timers hole in the wall near where im staying... so if it comes down to it i can walk home... sometimes after a weeks work outside you sometimes need to relax... ...or get intoxicated.


Quote: I certainly hope the people are waking up, but the problem is the MSM. They shout louder then the people, so they can make it seem everyone is dealing with their media practical topics, this was also a problem in NAZI germany. The Loud speaker has a great effect on preception and the backing up of using force for said reasons.


The media part is the 1st thing most people, go... Oh yea... those asshats.
People are real simple animals though. Even if they partially wakeup to a fact they just move on with their lives. With that little tidbit they snap out of it and fall lockstep in the next thing they agree with. Ive seen that with some of my friends. The thing they usually say is, "What are you gonna do about it?". Then the conversation grinds to a halt because now your talking about what you can and canot do... and i personally start to sound like a friggin hippy or a militant guerilla... kinda depends on who what where and when, maybe a how if you got some change for the next pool game.


Quote: We are walking a tight rope, there are a number of things that will be done if we don't have the "voice" to back up our claims. In voice I mean leadership, we have to have some of them get on board...without their support...we can be crushed very easily...all we need is the right crisis and the rules will change again.

I'm happy to hear what your saying, its hopeful. And hope is a wonderful thing.


Leadership is desperately needed, preferably leadership with a lot of cash.
This fight is so large that we will need leaders in nearly every facet of our lives. A certain corroboration amongst each other to work together for a common goal. Thats why i think our 2 lines in the sand that we can get a rise from the people to right a wrong are: Correcting the Fed Res (make the currency worth something, i like the silver amendment, abolish the 16th obviously). And the NAU... the NAU is our last resort... They want that sooOOoo bad they can taste it. As long as the armed public are aware of the NAU superstate... selling them on the cause of it being the Fed Res Act 1913... then i think we got something.

Im not counting my chickens just yet, but just when i start to doubt our fate or what not. i get a little kick in the pants. I play for keeps, and thats what will probably get me killed and/or thrown into ZeeCamps.

Give me my Constitutional Republic back!

[SouthernBelle82]

I think Poppy Bush is probably more involved then we think. Even in Michael Moore's movie it told how Poppy Bush is one of the very very very few (if only) president's that still receives CIA briefings. They are allowed to but he's the only one alive who does it and takes advantage of that privilage. Also on the morning of 9/11 he was at a meeting with one of BinLadin's brothers watching the event happen in a hotel and they are connected not only from BCCI but also the Carlyle Group.

[Mikhah]

Every see "In Plane Site?"