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Pentagon Papers Author Daniel Ellsberg Says Government May Have Carried Out 9/11
Predicts Bush Regime Will Stage Terrorist Attack to Provide Pretext for Iran, Syria Invasion, And Justify Internment Camps for American People

Daniel Ellsberg is a former American military analyst employed by the RAND Corporation who precipitated a national firestorm in 1971 when he released the Pentagon Papers, the US military's account of activities during the Vietnam War, to The New York Times. The release awakened the American people to a systematic program of organized deception carried out by the Pentagon against the population to continue the Vietnam War.

Daniel Ellsberg, speaking on air to GCN radio host Jack Blood, stated his concerns that criminal elements of the US government were psychologically capable to have carried out 9/11. He warned that within days after a US military strike on Iran that Bush's handlers would probably stage some type of terror attack in the West to legitimize the new war


Ellsberg went on to state that another major Reichstag-like state-sponsored attack would be followed by a martial law scenario which might include detention camps for American dissenters.

Ellsberg said that he worked with individuals at the highest levels of government who staged war provocations several times to whip up pro-war sentiment in the US. Daniel Ellsberg now joins the ranks of hundreds of prominent engineers, physicists, economists, military officers, pilots, high-level intelligence analysts, and cabinet ministers who are exposing the 9/11 hoax.

Each day more and more respected professionals are going public with their questions about the official 9/11 fable. The 9/11 cover-up dam is breaking under the weight of these truthseekers' efforts and the perpetrators of 9/11 are watching them in horror while wondering who will be the next to speak up.

Here is a partial transcript of the interview:

Jack Blood: Have you had a chance to take a look at a lot of this information coming from America’s leading scholars, physicists, engineers, etc. Who have taken a look now at 9/11 and are now, not only questioning what might have happened on 9/11, but really being very direct including a number of high level

Daniel Ellsberg: Actually, I have looked at a lot of that, and I’ll tell you without going into it all which would take a lot of time, I find some of it very implausible and other parts of it quite solid, and there’s no question in my mind that there’s enough evidence there to justify a very comprehensive and hard hitting investigation of a kind that we’ve not seen, with subpoenas, general questioning of people, and raising the release of a lot of documents, there’s no question that (D.E. chuckles) put it this way, very serious questions have been raised, about how much they knew beforehand and how much involvement there may been. Is the, is a administration capable, humanly and physiologically of engineering such a provocation?

Yes, I would say that, I worked for such an administration myself, Johnson, ah, President Johnson put destroyers in harm’s way in the Tonkin Gulf not only once, but several times, with the, with a lot of his people hoping that it would lead to a confrontation and claiming that it had. And could have resulted in the lost of many lives in the course of it. And what I’m saying now, by the way though is this, and here there’s a very strong analogy, to this day there is a controversy gone back and forth historically, as to who caused the Reichstag fire, the burning of their parliament, the Reichstag, on February 27 th 1933. Goering, at one point, the number two man in the Nazi regime, said “I set that fire”, later he denied that at Nuremberg, and I’ve noticed that the latest history suggests, that it wasn’t the Nazi’s. The point is that all this time later is there is still a controversy about that. But, what there’s no controversy about is the use the Nazi’s made of it, that very night and the next day.

J.B. Cui Bono, who benefits

D.E. February 28 th, there was a Reichstag fire decree that ended freedom of speech, freedom of the press, freedom of association, all in the Weimar Constitution, and privacy of the postal system and of communications and of telephone, what ended here to, more than we knew four years ago right after 9/11. If there’s another 9/11 or a major war in the Middle-East involving a U.S. attack on Iran, I have no doubt that there will be, the day after or within days an equivalent of a Reichstag fire decree that will involve massive detentions in this country, detention camps for middle-easterners and their quote “sympathizers”, critics of the President’s policy and essentially the wiping-out of the Bill of Rights.

J.B. I know your walking very carefully here Daniel Ellsberg, but that’s pretty strong medicine and we have to look at the history of the world, governments do this, as you mentioned, governments are liars, governments are murderers, they, this is not above them, I’m sure your familiar with the Northwoods Document.

D.E. Ah yes, indeed. Yeah talking about a manufactured provocation which could have involved even the shooting down of an American or some other airliner, with American support. Yes I would say by the way, that Americans definitely play this game, I’m sure that it’s happening now.

We, I expected by the way, Bush to manufacture a kind of Tonkin Gulf incident before he went into Iraq and then I decided well I’d been wrong they didn’t feel they needed that. It is interesting that the memos that came out, in conversations between Blair and Bush, (aka The White House Memo), show that Bush was pressing for the possibility of sending over a U-2 and getting it fired on and using that as an excuse.

J.B. A U-2 painted like a U.N., ah, a United Nations airplane.

D.E. Yes, but they couldn’t do that again for sure. But, what is happening right now is that Israel is clearly seeking a generally provocative act by both Hammas and Hezbollah, which I think were not wise acts some people are applauding those in the Middle-East passing out sweets and so forth, very short-sighted I would say, a lot of innocent people are going to die as a result.


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http://www.infowars.com/articles/terror/pentagon_papers_author_gov_maybe_did_911.htm



Comment: and if you don't think leadership has been making ready camps for the American people, look again.
http://www.robodoon.com/police_state.htm


David Rockefeller calls for disaster

Quote: We are on the verge of a global transformation. All we need is the right major crisis and the nations will accept the New World Order. - David Rockefeller


1, David Rockefeller speaking at the UN, Sept. 14, 1994. 109.
http://www.newswithviews.com/BeritKjos/kjos60.htm#_ftn1

[Alizard]

Moderator!

Table for one please, in the conspiracy section! :lol:

[puffin]

Moderator,
How about some "links" (how in the world any "link" would be of any possible value I cann't imagine in this case).
Posting a "link" from someone else who wrote this garbage is in fact not a "link". If someone refers to the fact that so and so person wrote the article and cuts and pastes it here doesn't in any way make that article truthful or accurate.

[Robodoon]

Alizard wrote: Moderator!

Table for one please, in the conspiracy section! :lol:

This is current news.

[uncreative]

I don't understand why everyone is so quick to believe their government, and refuses to question the official story. Is it that they're afraid of the truth or something else?

[Richard Owl Mirror]

While the only copy of this article resides at the given link, I found a few links that might also be of interest.

http://www.ellsberg.net/


Daniel Ellsberg
political analyst
Born: April 7, 1931
Birthplace: Detroit
http://www.factmonster.com/ipka/A0761447.html


Daniel Ellsberg, Sibel Edmonds, and 9/11: skeptical research notes
http://www.questionsquestions.net/docs04/ellsberg.html


Profile: Daniel Ellsberg
http://www.cooperativeresearch.org/entity.jsp?entity=daniel_ellsberg

Complete 911 Timeline
http://www.cooperativeresearch.org/timeline.jsp?timeline=complete_911_timeline

~@~

I'm not sure I know what to make of this info,
I do not believe the post should be so quickly shuffled off to Conspiracyland just yet.

[Robodoon]

uncreative wrote: I don't understand why everyone is so quick to believe their government, and refuses to question the official story. Is it that they're afraid of the truth or something else?

People over many decades have been conditioned to think a certain way, there is a whole science to it. When these views are challenged it is hard for them because it means their understanding of the world isn't correct, it basically dashes people's reality on the rocks...its Devastating...it was for me.


this social conditioning has been going on for a very long time, and it doesn't work if people are aware its happening...so...

In Bernays 1928 book, Propaganda, which was recently re-issued, he talks about the invisible governance by manipulation.
Quote: "The conscious and intelligent manipulation of the organized habits and opinions of the masses is an important element in democratic society. Those who manipulate this unseen mechanism of society constitute an invisible government which is the true ruling power of our country. We are governed, our minds molded, our tastes formed, our ideas suggested, largely by men we have never heard of. This is a logical result of the way in which our democratic society is organized. Vast numbers of human beings must cooperate in this manner if they are to live together as a smooth functioning society."
http://www.newswithviews.com/Dean/carolyn33.htm

I know what I saw that day...and others are finding out too.

Quote: "It's not what you think. Are you going to believe what I tell you, or are you going to believe your lying eyes?"
Attributed to Groucho Marx

[Robodoon]

Richard Owl Mirror wrote: While the only copy of this article resides at the given link, I found a few links that might also be of interest.

http://www.ellsberg.net/


Daniel Ellsberg
political analyst
Born: April 7, 1931
Birthplace: Detroit
http://www.factmonster.com/ipka/A0761447.html


Daniel Ellsberg, Sibel Edmonds, and 9/11: skeptical research notes
http://www.questionsquestions.net/docs04/ellsberg.html


Profile: Daniel Ellsberg
http://www.cooperativeresearch.org/entity.jsp?entity=daniel_ellsberg

Complete 911 Timeline
http://www.cooperativeresearch.org/timeline.jsp?timeline=complete_911_timeline

~@~

I'm not sure I know what to make of this info,
I do not believe the post should be so quickly shuffled off to Conspiracyland just yet.

;)

[The Comrade]

the goverment carrying out 9/11 would be such a reckless endevour on their part. it would have needed so much planning that someone would either leak information or the whole plan would fall apart. also the repercussions of the goverment doing this(assuming the public found out) could lead to massive loss of support for the state or rioting in the streets or who knows what. i don't deny that the united states knew something was going to happen in new york, but i don't think they would be so stupid as to carry out such a devistating attack. it would also be political suicide(or homocide depending on how upset people are). let's say the goverment did carry out 9/11, why would we have gone into afghanistan? there is nothing that the united states could ever need in afghanistan.

there's my two cents

[Zoot]

It is true that the US government drew up plans to commit terrorism against Florida in order to justify invasion of Cuba. They didn't, but the fact that they drew up the plans has to raise some questions.

[The Comrade]

justification for an invasion of cuba makes more sense then a justification for an invasion of afghanistan. although it does explain why osama bin-laden hasn't been found yet, despite our capabilities of finding him easily. pay him enough money, or give him enough arms, to say al-queda carried out the attack, and let him go off and do his thing. meanwhile, we invade the country(possibly for a military base of operations) and then claim saddam hussein is involved(despite him being secular) we now are in iraq and have a nice, easy way to keep tabs on the middle east. possibly a plan to support israel in a war again the middle east?


i don't know. this is all speculation on my part