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Zoot · Joined: 30 Oct 2005 Posts: 2183

Sabra/Shatila is still in living history. No one's going to trust Israel to care about civilians after that.

Why was that milk factory hit? Was it a terrorist milk factory?

skinn · Joined: 19 Jul 2006 Posts: 426 Location: beirut

Yoadm wrote: mr_happy wrote: ISrael's actions in lebanon sadden me. Israel used to be a shining example of a moral army. They had the best combatant to civillian kill ratio in the history of urban warfare. In Gaza for instance, they actually killed more militants than civillians. If you look at any war that is amazing. Howevr, the Israeli target acquisition system in lebanon is radically different than that of Gaza, and the lack of checks and balances are causing civillian casualties. It takes a full minute for the missile to hit the target once fired, and the happenings that can happen in the space of a minute explain the low number of civillian deaths prior to this lastest flare up. However, Israel is doing something radically different, to the detriment of the average lebanese. If anyone in the IDF can tell us what's being done different that would be great.

Mr_happy, the reason Israel had more success in minimizing civilian attacks in gaza, compared to Lebanon,was that in the former, it had more intellegence on the ground, and had the time and leisure to plan its strikes.

In this war, with 1,100 sorties a day, you cannot spend backbreaking hours working the perfect strike. Still, over 12,000 missiles hit lebanon, meaning that every 60 missiles (on average) cause one dead lebanese civilian. Comparebly, civilian deaths are astonishingly low.

what saddens me the most about israelis is that they always find reasons and excuse for killing 350 lebanese civilians, while many lebanese are saddened by the killing of 12 israeli civilians, and don't try to give farfetched hypocryt explanations. :evil:

superskippy · Joined: 14 Jul 2005 Posts: 8672 Location: Petah Tikva

From what I've seen fromy our Lebanese friends, such as our dear Cogent, they dont give a damn either way for the record.

skinn · Joined: 19 Jul 2006 Posts: 426 Location: beirut

superskippy wrote: From what I've seen fromy our Lebanese friends, such as our dear Cogent, they dont give a damn either way for the record.

cogent can talk for himself, and i can talk for mine, and i don't find any excuse for the killing of israeli civilians.

But surprisingly all israeli posters don't give a damn about lebanese dead innocent children, and women and men.

superskippy · Joined: 14 Jul 2005 Posts: 8672 Location: Petah Tikva

I beleive the bulk of our Israeli posters including myself have made aware their sorrow and feeling of tragedy for the loss of Lebanese civilian life. It is indeed a tragedy.

skinn · Joined: 19 Jul 2006 Posts: 426 Location: beirut

superskippy wrote: I beleive the bulk of our Israeli posters including myself have made aware their sorrow and feeling of tragedy for the loss of Lebanese civilian life. It is indeed a tragedy.

enjoy the tragedy :

http://www.fromisraeltolebanon.info/ (graphic images/chemical weapons ised)

superskippy · Joined: 14 Jul 2005 Posts: 8672 Location: Petah Tikva

I'm sorry to say I'm not sadastic enough to enjoy it, feel free to enjoy it if it does in fact entertain you.

Though I must say a few of them are either faked or photoshop enhanced. For example if you have lost so much blood your skin is turning green, you arent alive anymore, at the very least impossible outcome you arent upright staggering forward.

skinn · Joined: 19 Jul 2006 Posts: 426 Location: beirut

superskippy wrote: I'm sorry to say I'm not sadastic enough to enjoy it, feel free to enjoy it if it does in fact entertain you.

Though I must say a few of them are either faked or photoshop enhanced. For example if you have lost so much blood your skin is turning green, you arent alive anymore, at the very least impossible outcome you arent upright staggering forward.

I supposed that those who support these actions must be enjoying them, appears not.

as for the photoshop argument, WHAT ????!!!

Zoot · Joined: 30 Oct 2005 Posts: 2183

I think the best message from the demonstration I was just at was: there is no military solution to this problem.

skinn · Joined: 19 Jul 2006 Posts: 426 Location: beirut

Zoot wrote: I think the best message from the demonstration I was just at was: there is no military solution to this problem.

all what lebanon and even hezbollah is asking for, is to get back our detainees in israel and get back the shebaa farms, and hezbollah on her own will disarm, as hizbollah stated allready.

the solution to the israeli-lebanese crisis can be very easy and definite, if israel decided to, and can be long and bloody and dark and full of pain and hatered and death if israel decided to.

let's hope israel makes the wright decision.

superskippy · Joined: 14 Jul 2005 Posts: 8672 Location: Petah Tikva

skinn wrote: superskippy wrote: I'm sorry to say I'm not sadastic enough to enjoy it, feel free to enjoy it if it does in fact entertain you.

Though I must say a few of them are either faked or photoshop enhanced. For example if you have lost so much blood your skin is turning green, you arent alive anymore, at the very least impossible outcome you arent upright staggering forward.

I supposed that those who support these actions must be enjoying them, appears not.

as for the photoshop argument, WHAT ????!!!

Most of the photos are authentic and strike quite a chord as they should with all human beings, it's sad.

But there are a few that are either faked or enhanced. If you have lost so much blood that your skin is darkening to a greenish colour there is no way you could be shambling forward or most likely even alive. There are a few others but for the most part authentic.

maalox · Joined: 18 Jul 2006 Posts: 133 Location: above u

man , i don`t really know abt u , but i know one thing

you`re a criminal

superskippy · Joined: 14 Jul 2005 Posts: 8672 Location: Petah Tikva

Wow thats actually a new one. Which crime am I guilty of? Questioning a photo that even at a glance has many issues with it? Or is it something more?

What is the reason for such a claim? It's a pretyy heavy one to make on PC, I might just take it as a personal insult... But feel free to enlighten me to my crimes.

maalox · Joined: 18 Jul 2006 Posts: 133 Location: above u

for being a ZIONISTE

superskippy · Joined: 14 Jul 2005 Posts: 8672 Location: Petah Tikva

Eh? A zionist is one who supports the state of Israel, which I do as this is my home and my country and the home of the Jewish people, from the great cities of Tel'Aviv, to Hafia, to Eliat, to our capital in Jerusalem. I will not deny that.

I proudly wear the badge of zionist in that regard, and I defy you to substantiate it is criminal.

maalox · Joined: 18 Jul 2006 Posts: 133 Location: above u

good for u

Edit: Nico. see your PMs.

superskippy · Joined: 14 Jul 2005 Posts: 8672 Location: Petah Tikva

Wow your just lining yourself up for a banning arent you?

maalox · Joined: 18 Jul 2006 Posts: 133 Location: above u

no man , stop provoking me

superskippy · Joined: 14 Jul 2005 Posts: 8672 Location: Petah Tikva

Provoking you? You just said before all of Political Crossfire, Adolf Hitler Chancellor of the 3rd Reich, had the right idea. I would suggest you at least apolagise.

ukgirl · Joined: 19 Feb 2006 Posts: 58 Location: USA

maalox wrote: good for u

Adolf Hitler WAS right

So by that statement, are you saying that Jews are sub-human and do not deserve to live?