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britboy
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| Posted: Tue Jul 18, 2006 6:53 am Post subject: Favourite age of weaponry? |
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Humans have probably been developing weapons from the moment they climbed out of the trees.
When would you say the golden age of the weapon was? What age / culture would you say inspires you most?
Do you enjoy daydreaming about knights, cavalry and swords? Or do you prefer the war of independence?
Maybe the weapons involved in the second world war fire your imagination, or the first battles between Japanese Samarai? Or the current rumbles and tumbles in Iraq?
In short, what AGE and culture of weapons history thrills you most?
Me first -- I actually like the idea of medieval battles, basically because tactics were supreme, men had to go nose-to-nose to fight (often), and it wasn't too much technology vs technology. |
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OneZero
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| Posted: Tue Jul 18, 2006 7:48 am Post subject: |
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| I also like studying medieval warfare and tactics. There were some brilliant leaders, as well as complete fools, but it is interesting to see the different technological advances of one nation give it the edge over the rest. For example, the Romans infantry tactics vs. the disordered masses of their enemies, the English long bows vs. the French bows, etc etc. |
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perdidochas
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| Posted: Tue Jul 18, 2006 9:50 am Post subject: Re: Favourite age of weaponry? |
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britboy wrote: Humans have probably been developing weapons from the moment they climbed out of the trees.
When would you say the golden age of the weapon was? What age / culture would you say inspires you most?
Do you enjoy daydreaming about knights, cavalry and swords? Or do you prefer the war of independence?
Maybe the weapons involved in the second world war fire your imagination, or the first battles between Japanese Samarai? Or the current rumbles and tumbles in Iraq?
In short, what AGE and culture of weapons history thrills you most?
Me first -- I actually like the idea of medieval battles, basically because tactics were supreme, men had to go nose-to-nose to fight (often), and it wasn't too much technology vs technology.
Of course it was tech vs. tech. Yes, it was man-powered technology, but it started as early as stone age vs. bronze age, bronze vs. iron, etc. |
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Onevote
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| Posted: Tue Jul 18, 2006 12:35 pm Post subject: Re: Favourite age of weaponry? |
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britboy wrote: Humans have probably been developing weapons from the moment they climbed out of the trees.
When would you say the golden age of the weapon was? What age / culture would you say inspires you most?
Do you enjoy daydreaming about knights, cavalry and swords? Or do you prefer the war of independence?
Maybe the weapons involved in the second world war fire your imagination, or the first battles between Japanese Samarai? Or the current rumbles and tumbles in Iraq?
In short, what AGE and culture of weapons history thrills you most?
Me first -- I actually like the idea of medieval battles, basically because tactics were supreme, men had to go nose-to-nose to fight (often), and it wasn't too much technology vs technology. The weapons of the last half of the 1800's interest me the most. Gun technology took a giant leap during those days. My favorites being the Colt SAA, Sharpe's rifles and the Henry rifles. |
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thefranzkafkafront
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| Posted: Tue Jul 18, 2006 1:39 pm Post subject: |
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Muskets were cool, not to mention you could still use swords due to there generally inefficeny.
1600's odd, mans warfare. |
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Wolverine
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| Posted: Tue Jul 18, 2006 1:55 pm Post subject: |
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| I prefer WWII to modern weapons. |
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Dragoon
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| Posted: Tue Jul 18, 2006 3:16 pm Post subject: |
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| World War II era and American Civil war. Gotta love 'em. |
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thefranzkafkafront
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| Posted: Tue Jul 18, 2006 3:43 pm Post subject: |
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Wolverine wrote: I prefer WWII to modern weapons.
Yeah ill give you that, bolt actions are super kewl. |
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Aqualung
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| Posted: Tue Jul 18, 2006 3:56 pm Post subject: |
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Wolverine wrote: I prefer WWII to modern weapons.
Same.
Although, I like to learn about warfare from almost any time period - I just don't think the weapons they used were all that cool... Unless you're talking torture devices. :lol: Gotta love those iron maidens. |
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drBo
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| I like ancient Roman and Greek methods of fighting as well as WWI and WWII. There is no real "golden age" of weapons since we keep making more efficient devices all the time. I mean, was mankind at any other time period able to destroy all life on earth? So in a way I guess that today would be the golden age of weapons up until this point in history. |
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britboy
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| Posted: Tue Jul 18, 2006 5:31 pm Post subject: |
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| Actualy now I think about it, if on TV on channel 1 there was a program all about medieval weapons and tactics, and on channel 2 there was a program about the very bleeding edge of technology, and the outrageously cool stuff deployable today -- I'd probably watch channel 2. |
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micfranklin
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| Posted: Tue Jul 18, 2006 5:35 pm Post subject: |
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| Any weapon from the WWII era up until the present day is just fine with me. |
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Wolverine
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thefranzkafkafront wrote: Wolverine wrote: I prefer WWII to modern weapons.
Yeah ill give you that, bolt actions are super kewl.
Especially the K-31.
CrossEyedMary wrote: Wolverine wrote: I prefer WWII to modern weapons.
Same.
Although, I like to learn about warfare from almost any time period - I just don't think the weapons they used were all that cool... Unless you're talking torture devices. :lol: Gotta love those iron maidens.
Not cool? How can you say that? :cry1:
*thinks about how cool M1 Garands are*
*grabs another tissue* |
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thundertaker
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thefranzkafkafront wrote: Muskets were cool, not to mention you could still use swords due to there generally inefficeny.
1600's odd, mans warfare.
Push of Pike isn't cool. Armies of Vikings vs the Fyrd and Housecarls of Anglo-Saxon England slamming into each other ftw...... |
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RooK
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| Posted: Tue Jul 18, 2006 10:23 pm Post subject: |
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| I like all period of weaponry, respectively. But as far as stuff I own and use, I'm going through a black powder phase at the moment (just pre-civil war) with an 1851 Colt revolver replica. I'm also a big fan of WWII fighter planes. |
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TNBiologist
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| Posted: Wed Jul 19, 2006 1:43 pm Post subject: |
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| Late 1500's through late 1700's. All firearms were still blackpowder arms either flintlock or matchlock and hand weapons such a swords and poles still played a major role in combat. |
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Onevote
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| RooK wrote: I like all period of weaponry, respectively. But as far as stuff I own and use, I'm going through a black powder phase at the moment (just pre-civil war) with an 1851 Colt revolver replica. I'm also a big fan of WWII fighter planes. How do you like the 1851? I had an 1858 army, Although the novelty of it was cool, it wore off quickly. Cleaning those things suck. A good Colt ( peacemaker) SAA is my kind of gun. |
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RooK
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| Posted: Wed Jul 19, 2006 5:36 pm Post subject: |
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It's nice, but rough. Definately not as refined as any of my modern DA revolvers or my Ruger SBH I used to own. My grandfather also made some modifications, installing a half-moon sight so it doesn't shoot high. Most Colt BP revolvers have a really high impact at short range and are actually zeroed for 75 and 100yds. Remington 1858s on the other hand have tall sights and usually shoot low, but can be filed into range. I'm also considering getting my hands on an 1860 or 1858 with plans on getting a cartridge conversion later on.
As for the cleaning, I'm planning on a remedy: Hodgdon 777 powder. It's a fairly new BP substitute, all the smoke without the smell or corrosiveness. The only problems I've heard is it doesn't do well under compression (erratic spreads in velocity). It's also about $5 more a pound than Pyrodex. It might be worth the hassle though, just to see if it can be worked with and avoid the nasty rust that forms from alternatives. H777 is not a 1:1 BP substitute either, loads need to be reduced 15%, so more bang for your buck and more room in the cylinders to prevent compressing. |
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Green
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| Posted: Thu Jul 20, 2006 8:42 am Post subject: |
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Wolverine wrote: I prefer WWII to modern weapons.
Same here. WWII has many different varieties of weapons, because not everything is semi-automatic. Most weapons in WWII had larger calibers than todays weapons. The army started issuing smgs to most standard infantry soldiers after WWII.
Also, most of these weapons in general were much more reliable than todays weapons. |
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Wolverine
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| Posted: Thu Jul 20, 2006 4:21 pm Post subject: |
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Green wrote: Wolverine wrote: I prefer WWII to modern weapons.
Same here. WWII has many different varieties of weapons, because not everything is semi-automatic. Most weapons in WWII had larger calibers than todays weapons. The army started issuing smgs to most standard infantry soldiers after WWII.
Also, most of these weapons in general were much more reliable than todays weapons.
And very cheap... got to love cheap quality guns. :-D |
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