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MoscowMatt · Joined: 16 Sep 2005 Posts: 1647 Location: UK / Hungary

Perhaps one of the pro Palestinian brigade could enlighten me as to why the likes of Hamas feel the need to kill civilians? In world war II when mainland Europe was under occupation and suffering dreadful atrocities the only resistance was aimed at the military not civilians.

Just proves what utter cowards these Islamic militants are. Yet there are those who try to justify and excuse their cowardly actions.

Hey let's face it though if Israel didn't have ties with the US nobody would give a toss about this conflict as proved by the lack of interest in events in Somalia etc!!

TacticalSniper · Posted: Mon Jul 17, 2006 3:53 pm Post subject:

HAMAS' goal is to destroy Israel, so attacking civilians is perfect, because as history of the recent conflict shows it works as our gov't gives in to them.

Some info on HAMAS

MoscowMatt · Joined: 16 Sep 2005 Posts: 1647 Location: UK / Hungary

TacticalSniper wrote: HAMAS' goal is to destroy Israel, so attacking civilians is perfect, because as history of the recent conflict shows it works as our gov't gives in to them.

Some info on HAMAS

Hey I said pro-palestinians!!! :lol: But of course you are right!!

TacticalSniper · Posted: Mon Jul 17, 2006 4:09 pm Post subject:

OMG, I'm soooooooooooooo sorry. Will not post here again. Except this time.

TacticalSniper · Posted: Mon Jul 17, 2006 4:10 pm Post subject:

Well, and this one :)

Pebble · Joined: 12 Nov 2005 Posts: 1143

MoscowMatt wrote: Perhaps one of the pro Palestinian brigade could enlighten me as to why the likes of Hamas feel the need to kill civilians? In world war II when mainland Europe was under occupation and suffering dreadful atrocities the only resistance was aimed at the military not civilians.

Just proves what utter cowards these Islamic militants are. Yet there are those who try to justify and excuse their cowardly actions.

Hey let's face it though if Israel didn't have ties with the US nobody would give a toss about this conflict as proved by the lack of interest in events in Somalia etc!!

You need to seperate the terms Pro-Palestinian and Pro-Terrorist. You'll find many that will support the quest for Palestinian statehood, but almost none who'll support the wanton killing of civilians, by either 'side'.

TacticalSniper · Posted: Wed Jul 19, 2006 7:41 am Post subject:

The quest for "Palestinian statehood" could have ended on several occassions in the past six years, it's just that Palestinians didn't want the statehood. Are you for not-killing Palestinians? Join the club, we all are. But we won't let them kill us just because they're blinded by their propaganda.

Pebble · Joined: 12 Nov 2005 Posts: 1143

TacticalSniper wrote: The quest for "Palestinian statehood" could have ended on several occassions in the past six years, it's just that Palestinians didn't want the statehood. Are you for not-killing Palestinians? Join the club, we all are. But we won't let them kill us just because they're blinded by their propaganda.

The balance for a 'fair' compromise is the current issue. You could offer the Palestinians a square kilometer of land and claim that they rejected the offer...

It is a sad thing that there are Palestinians who seek to drive Israel into the sea, it is not something that it either right or can be achieved. Both peoples are there and neither shall dislodge the other.

TacticalSniper · Posted: Wed Jul 19, 2006 9:15 am Post subject:

First of, it's not exactly

Quote: there are Palestinians who seek to drive Israel into the sea

it is a wish of very large chunk of them.

Now, the Palestinians maybe weren't offered absolutely everything, but they also weren't offered square kilometer. Overall, they were offered the West Bank, excluding Maale Adumim and Ariel, as far as I remember, with territories same size added to Gaza (meaning the Gaza Strip would be bigger), and a capital in Jerusalem.

Now, was it a perfect offer? Maybe not. But they could have accepted it and negotiated for more later. Arafat could propose something else. They never did any of that.

Arcenius I · Posted: Wed Jul 19, 2006 7:03 pm Post subject: Re: Militant tactics?

MoscowMatt wrote: Perhaps one of the pro Palestinian brigade could enlighten me as to why the likes of Hamas feel the need to kill civilians? In world war II when mainland Europe was under occupation and suffering dreadful atrocities the only resistance was aimed at the military not civilians.

Just proves what utter cowards these Islamic militants are. Yet there are those who try to justify and excuse their cowardly actions.

Hey let's face it though if Israel didn't have ties with the US nobody would give a toss about this conflict as proved by the lack of interest in events in Somalia etc!!

Because it is the only way a CLEAR message will be sent to Israel, the US and anyone else who supports the two.

Israeli citizens will NEVER be safe, I assure you. The pleasure of killing Israelis goes far and beyond making peace. Peace? That's useless.

Nico · Joined: 03 Nov 2004 Posts: 10827 Location: Auckland

Quote: The pleasure of killing Israelis goes far and beyond making peace

Bye now.