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[Muslima]

Salam alikum, Hello, Hi, Every greeting in the world....

As I have been promising in my signature, I have used Richard's pdf translation of the quran (thank you) and a quran dictionary known as Al-Mugam Al-Mufahras (المعجم المفهرس)
So enjoy reading!!!!

So they routed them by Allâh's Leave and Dawûd (David) killed Jalût (Goliath), and Allâh gave him
[Dawûd (David)] the kingdom [after the death of Talût (Saul) and Samuel] and AlHikmah
(Prophethood)[], and taught him of that which He willed. And if Allâh did not check one set of people
by means of another, the earth would indeed be full of mischief. But Allâh is full of Bounty to the
'Alamîn (mankind, jinns and all that exists). (surat albaqarh; 251)

And (remember) when you killed a man and fell into dispute among yourselves as to the crime. But
Allâh brought forth that which you were hiding. (albaqarh; 72)

It is not for a believer to kill a believer except (that it be) by mistake, and whosoever kills a believer
by mistake, (it is ordained that) he must set free a believing slave and a compensation (blood
money, i.e Diya) be given to the deceased's family, unless they remit it. If the deceased belonged to
a people at war with you and he was a believer; the freeing of a believing slave (is prescribed), and
if he belonged to a people with whom you have a treaty of mutual alliance, compensation (blood
money - Diya) must be paid to his family, and a believing slave must be freed. And whoso finds this
(the penance of freeing a slave) beyond his means, he must fast for two consecutive months in
order to seek repentance from Allâh. And Allâh is Ever AllKnowing, AllWise. (alnisa; 92)

Because of that We ordained for the Children of Israel that if anyone killed a person not in retaliation
of murder, or (and) to spread mischief in the land - it would be as if he killed all mankind, and if
anyone saved a life, it would be as if he saved the life of all mankind. And indeed, there came to
them Our Messengers with clear proofs, evidences, and signs, even then after that many of them
continued to exceed the limits (e.g. by doing oppression unjustly and exceeding beyond the limits
set by Allâh by committing the major sins) in the land!.[] (almaida; 32)

O you who believe! Kill not game while you are in a state of Ihrâm for Hajj or 'Umrah (pilgrimage),
and whosoever of you kills it intentionally, the penalty is an offering, brought to the Ka'bah, of an
eatable animal (i.e. sheep, goat, cow, etc.) equivalent to the one he killed, as adjudged by two just
men among you; or, for expiation, he should feed Masâkin (poor persons), or its equivalent in Saum
(fasting), that he may taste the heaviness (punishment) of his deed. Allâh has forgiven what is past,
but whosoever commits it again, Allâh will take retribution from him. And Allâh is AllMighty, All-Able
of Retribution. (almaida;95)

Then they both proceeded, till they met a boy, he (Khidr) killed him. Mûsa (Moses) said: "Have you
killed an innocent person who had killed none? Verily, you have committed a thing "Nukra" (a great
Munkar - prohibited, evil, dreadful thing)!" (alkahf; 74)

"When your sister went and said: 'Shall I show you one who will nurse him?' So We restored you to
your mother, that she might cool her eyes and she should not grieve. Then you did kill a man, but
We saved you from great distress and tried you with a heavy trial. Then you stayed a number of
years with the people of Madyan (Midian). Then you came here according to the fixed term which I
ordained (for you), O Mûsa (Moses)! (taha;40)

Then when he decided to seize the man who was an enemy to both of them, the man said: "O Mûsa
(Moses)! Is it your intention to kill me as you killed a man yesterday? Your aim is nothing but to
become a tyrant in the land, and not to be one of those who do right." (alqasas; 19)

He said: "My Lord! I have killed a man among them, and I fear that they will kill me. (alqasas;33)

Those (Jews) who said: "Verily, Allâh has taken our promise not to believe in any Messenger unless
he brings to us an offering which the fire (from heaven) shall devour." Say: "Verily, there came to
you Messengers before me, with clear signs and even with what you speak of; why then did you kill
them, if you are truthful?" (al-imran; 183)

And because of their saying (in boast), "We killed Messiah 'Iesa (Jesus), son of Maryam (Mary), the
Messenger of Allâh," - but they killed him not, nor crucified him, but the resemblance of 'Iesa
(Jesus) was put over another man (and they killed that man), and those who differ therein are full of
doubts. They have no (certain) knowledge, they follow nothing but conjecture. For surely; they killed
him not [i.e. 'Iesa (Jesus), son of Maryam (Mary) >>>]: (al-nisa;157)

There is much more that I will be posting later, if god wills......

[Richard Owl Mirror]

Sure are a whole lot of references to "slave must be freed".

Now, I know you are attempting to present a different face of Islam to those of us on this forum but,
when what you present does not reflect the REALITY of what is transpiring each day it's quite hard to consider your thought's.

[Muslima]

i know....that is why i posted this thread to start changing things around as much as i can....

[Muslima]

So the Nafs (self) of the other (latter one) encouraged him and made fairseeming to him the murder
of his brother; he murdered him and became one of the losers. (al-maidah;30)

O you who believe! Kill not game while you are in a state of Ihrâm for Hajj or 'Umrah (pilgrimage),
and whosoever of you kills it intentionally, the penalty is an offering, brought to the Ka'bah, of an
eatable animal (i.e. sheep, goat, cow, etc.) equivalent to the one he killed, as adjudged by two just
men among you; or, for expiation, he should feed Masâkin (poor persons), or its equivalent in Saum
(fasting), that he may taste the heaviness (punishment) of his deed. Allâh has forgiven what is past,
but whosoever commits it again, Allâh will take retribution from him. And Allâh is AllMighty, All-Able
of Retribution. (al-maidah; 95)

Then they both proceeded, till they met a boy, he (Khidr) killed him. Mûsa (Moses) said: "Have you
killed an innocent person who had killed none? Verily, you have committed a thing "Nukra" (a great
Munkar - prohibited, evil, dreadful thing)!" (al-kahf; 74)

You killed them not, but Allâh killed them. And you (Muhammad SAW) threw not when you did throw
but Allâh threw, that He might test the believers by a fair trial from Him. Verily, Allâh is All-Hearer, All-
Knower. (al-anfal; 17)

Indeed lost are they who have killed their children, from folly, without knowledge, and have forbidden
that which Allâh has provided for them, inventing a lie against Allâh. They have indeed gone astray
and were not guided. (al-anaam; 140)

Fir'aun (Pharaoh) said: "Leave me to kill Mûsa (Moses), and let him call his Lord (to stop me from
killing him)! I fear that he may change your religion, or that he may cause mischief to appear in the
land!" (gafir; 26)

And (O Muhammad SAW) recite to them (the Jews) the story of the two sons of Adam [Hâbil (Abel)
and Qâbil (Cain)] in truth; when each offered a sacrifice (to Allâh), it was accepted from the one but
not from the other. The latter said to the former: "I will surely kill you.[]" The former said: "Verily,
Allâh accepts only from those who are Al-Muttaqûn (the pious - see V.2:2)." (al-maidah;27)

"If you do stretch your hand against me to kill me, I shall never stretch my hand against you to kill
you, for I fear Allâh; the Lord of the 'Alamîn (mankind, jinns, and all that exists)." (al-maidah; 28)

O you who believe! Eat not up your property among yourselves unjustly except it be a trade
amongst you, by mutual consent. And do not kill yourselves (nor kill one another). Surely, Allâh is
Most Merciful to you.[] (al-nisa; 29)

Say (O Muhammad SAW): "Come, I will recite what your Lord has prohibited you from: Join not
anything in worship with Him; be good and dutiful to your parents; kill not your children because of
poverty - We provide sustenance for you and for them; come not near to Al-Fawâhish (shameful
sins, illegal sexual intercourse, etc.) whether committed openly or secretly, and kill not anyone
whom Allâh has forbidden, except for a just cause (according to Islâmic law). This He has
commanded you that you may understand. (al-anaam;151)

One from among them said: "Kill not Yûsuf (Joseph), but if you must do something, throw him down
to the bottom of a well, he will be picked up by some caravan of travellers." (yousef- 10)

more to come.....