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plumeria · Joined: 16 Jul 2006 Posts: 106

Demonic Spoon wrote: ...

I find it ironic that something like this is posted, but you don't post stories over the mass amounts of cattle that are killed for food. Why is that?

John Galt wrote: Hyde wrote: John Galt wrote: Had they served their purpose better their owners would not have felt the need to dispose of them. They are just dogs, and they all had quick s. Greyhounds are ugly as well and I don't particularly like them. One of my highschool's mascots was the greyhound. Terribly lanky animal. Bred too much as well... not particularly good dogs. So no one wants them once they have outlived their usefullness. I don't see exactly what the problem is here. We put dogs to everyday. Thousands, everyday. People call that humane. Hell, PETA puts thousands of dogs down.

whats wrong with you. he killed 10,000 perfectly healthy dogs. you are sick.

I am sick? Why? Humans kill millions of perfectly healthy animals each year. Even PETA kills thousands of perfectly healthy animals each year. These animals had outlived their usefullness even if they are healthy.

I do not see how it is "sickening" in anyway to dispose of morally unimportant beings that no longer serve moral beings as they should. in fact, I would say it would be sick to hold morally important beings captive by morally unimportant beings, forcing us to continue their existence that serves no purpose.

Morally unimportant? How can dogs be morally unimportant when you see that a dog could work as a police dog, a dog would gladly give up his life for his fellow officer and knowingly give up his life.

Dogs are the most loyal creatures on the planet. They are not morally unimportant! :evil: They are intelligent enough to be trained to guide blind people around busy city streets.

And regarding cows, look at those dumb stupid animals? What the hell else are they good for? You ever see a cow pull a person out of a burning building? You ever see a cow sniff out a bomb at an airport. These animals have one purpose and one purpose only and that is to either get it when they're young and end up as a tasty dish of veal, to give me my delicious milk and then to get slaughtered for my steak.

Don't tell me it's just a perspective of culture. If you live in a country where people are starving from overpopulation and there's freaking cows walking around the streets and no one's eating them because they worship them, you are a bunch of idiots!!!

It should be a national priority for all nations to find ways in which we can put these incredible creatures to work to serve man, because they love to serve man and there's a hundred different occupations you can train a dog for.

And for the person talking about doggie soup and doggie stew, I think a tastier dish would be your matza balls in my soup because each and every one of my dogs serves a better purpose on this earth than you do.

John Galt · Joined: 04 May 2004 Posts: 21632 Location: Minnesota

Amoral creatures are morally unimportant. A dog is not morally good for saving someone's life, just as it's not evil for mauling someone to death. It just is a dog, trained (or not trained) to do X.

Demonic Spoon · Joined: 20 Sep 2004 Posts: 6953 Location: Ohio

plumeria wrote: Demonic Spoon wrote: ...

I find it ironic that something like this is posted, but you don't post stories over the mass amounts of cattle that are killed for food. Why is that?

John Galt wrote: Hyde wrote: John Galt wrote: Had they served their purpose better their owners would not have felt the need to dispose of them. They are just dogs, and they all had quick s. Greyhounds are ugly as well and I don't particularly like them. One of my highschool's mascots was the greyhound. Terribly lanky animal. Bred too much as well... not particularly good dogs. So no one wants them once they have outlived their usefullness. I don't see exactly what the problem is here. We put dogs to everyday. Thousands, everyday. People call that humane. Hell, PETA puts thousands of dogs down.

whats wrong with you. he killed 10,000 perfectly healthy dogs. you are sick.

I am sick? Why? Humans kill millions of perfectly healthy animals each year. Even PETA kills thousands of perfectly healthy animals each year. These animals had outlived their usefullness even if they are healthy.

I do not see how it is "sickening" in anyway to dispose of morally unimportant beings that no longer serve moral beings as they should. in fact, I would say it would be sick to hold morally important beings captive by morally unimportant beings, forcing us to continue their existence that serves no purpose.

Morally unimportant? How can dogs be morally unimportant when you see that a dog could work as a police dog, a dog would gladly give up his life for his fellow officer and knowingly give up his life.

Dogs are the most loyal creatures on the planet. They are not morally unimportant! :evil: They are intelligent enough to be trained to guide blind people around busy city streets.

And regarding cows, look at those dumb stupid animals? What the hell else are they good for? You ever see a cow pull a person out of a burning building? You ever see a cow sniff out a bomb at an airport. These animals have one purpose and one purpose only and that is to either get it when they're young and end up as a tasty dish of veal, to give me my delicious milk and then to get slaughtered for my steak.

Don't tell me it's just a perspective of culture. If you live in a country where people are starving from overpopulation and there's freaking cows walking around the streets and no one's eating them because they worship them, you are a bunch of idiots!!!

It should be a national priority for all nations to find ways in which we can put these incredible creatures to work to serve man, because they love to serve man and there's a hundred different occupations you can train a dog for.

And for the person talking about doggie soup and doggie stew, I think a tastier dish would be your matza balls in my soup because each and every one of my dogs serves a better purpose on this earth than you do.

So you're pissed off because someone wasted a valuable resource, not because they killed some lives?

spearsy23 · Joined: 24 Oct 2005 Posts: 5632 Location: Fulton, Ks

BTW greyhounds, yeah i'm pretty sure they don't work as police dogs.

plumeria · Joined: 16 Jul 2006 Posts: 106

Demonic Spoon wrote: plumeria wrote: Demonic Spoon wrote: ...

I find it ironic that something like this is posted, but you don't post stories over the mass amounts of cattle that are killed for food. Why is that?

John Galt wrote: Hyde wrote: John Galt wrote: Had they served their purpose better their owners would not have felt the need to dispose of them. They are just dogs, and they all had quick s. Greyhounds are ugly as well and I don't particularly like them. One of my highschool's mascots was the greyhound. Terribly lanky animal. Bred too much as well... not particularly good dogs. So no one wants them once they have outlived their usefullness. I don't see exactly what the problem is here. We put dogs to everyday. Thousands, everyday. People call that humane. Hell, PETA puts thousands of dogs down.

whats wrong with you. he killed 10,000 perfectly healthy dogs. you are sick.

I am sick? Why? Humans kill millions of perfectly healthy animals each year. Even PETA kills thousands of perfectly healthy animals each year. These animals had outlived their usefullness even if they are healthy.

I do not see how it is "sickening" in anyway to dispose of morally unimportant beings that no longer serve moral beings as they should. in fact, I would say it would be sick to hold morally important beings captive by morally unimportant beings, forcing us to continue their existence that serves no purpose.

Morally unimportant? How can dogs be morally unimportant when you see that a dog could work as a police dog, a dog would gladly give up his life for his fellow officer and knowingly give up his life.

Dogs are the most loyal creatures on the planet. They are not morally unimportant! :evil: They are intelligent enough to be trained to guide blind people around busy city streets.

And regarding cows, look at those dumb stupid animals? What the hell else are they good for? You ever see a cow pull a person out of a burning building? You ever see a cow sniff out a bomb at an airport. These animals have one purpose and one purpose only and that is to either get it when they're young and end up as a tasty dish of veal, to give me my delicious milk and then to get slaughtered for my steak.

Don't tell me it's just a perspective of culture. If you live in a country where people are starving from overpopulation and there's freaking cows walking around the streets and no one's eating them because they worship them, you are a bunch of idiots!!!

It should be a national priority for all nations to find ways in which we can put these incredible creatures to work to serve man, because they love to serve man and there's a hundred different occupations you can train a dog for.

And for the person talking about doggie soup and doggie stew, I think a tastier dish would be your matza balls in my soup because each and every one of my dogs serves a better purpose on this earth than you do.

So you're pissed off because someone wasted a valuable resource, not because they killed some lives?

Both.

You have to recognize that there is a scale of importance to God's creations - a developer clears acres of scrub brush for a development, no one cares, a developer seeks to clear acres of sequoias out of the Redwood National Forrest and all hell breaks loose.

Demonic Spoon · Joined: 20 Sep 2004 Posts: 6953 Location: Ohio

Cows are about as smart as dogs, what's your point?

plumeria · Joined: 16 Jul 2006 Posts: 106

Demonic Spoon wrote: Cows are about as smart as dogs, what's your point?

Train your pet cow to fetch, roll over or jump through a hoop and see how far you get.

Hyde · Posted: Mon Jul 31, 2006 8:49 am Post subject:

ic Spoon wrote: Cows are about as smart as dogs, what's your point?

when was the last time a cow jumped through a firy hoop? i just saw a dog do that on TV last night :wink:

JackarooSundown · Joined: 29 Oct 2005 Posts: 433 Location: Three thirty.

Demonic Spoon wrote: Cows are about as smart as dogs, what's your point?

Pigs are smarter, we eat them too.

X-Shocker · Joined: 22 Feb 2006 Posts: 167 Location: All around you

plumeria wrote:

And for the person talking about doggie soup and doggie stew, I think a tastier dish would be your matza balls in my soup because each and every one of my dogs serves a better purpose on this earth than you do.

You must be one of those antis which tried to ban the eating of dog flesh in the Asian countries. What people of one geographical area consider good food is a total disgust for people of another geographical area. An example would be your cheese, a total disgust for the Asians of Asian countries.

Dogs are your lovers, but to me, a dog is a good meal (just like the good steak you get out of a cow, a holy being to the people of India and will never be eaten by Indians no matter how starved they may be).

To say that a dog serves a better purpose than a person is plain wrong. You think the world of dogs, yet you could careless for cows. Your arguments have no basis and contradicts themselves. You need to reorder your way of thinking and think clearer.

Demonic Spoon · Joined: 20 Sep 2004 Posts: 6953 Location: Ohio

Quote: Pigs are smarter, we eat them too.

Yup.

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Train your pet cow to fetch, roll over or jump through a hoop and see how far you get.

And your point is?

ZOMG MY DOG CAN PICK UP A STICK WITH ITS MOUTH!!!1111111111111

Dogs have been domesticated for a huge amount of time, and rely completely on humans. Cows do not. Just because they are dependant and loyal does not make them smarter than other mammals.

In India, they don't eat cows. Go to India and eat a big juicy steak and see the reaction you get. They like cows over there, similar to how you like dogs. Once again, please explain to me how a dog is more worthy of life than a cow.

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And for the person talking about doggie soup and doggie stew, I think a tastier dish would be your matza balls in my soup because each and every one of my dogs serves a better purpose on this earth than you do.

mmm...sorry, that's unlikely. It's hard to imagine that your dogs, which do NOTHING but suck up resources and amuse you, do more for humanity than him (unless he's a serial killer or something).

Although I admire your debating style. Let me try:

You suck, and the only way that humanity could possibly benefit from your brain is if we fried it up and fed it to those without food.

This right here has more mental capacity than you do.

Wow, you're right, that made me sound MUCH more intelligent :roll:

name · Joined: 23 May 2006 Posts: 144

The original author of this topic has a point. The dogs were killed for no reason at all, only for convenience, while they could have been put up for adoption, and at least some of them could have gone to good homes. It's different for cows. Beef cattle have been selectively bred for their one function- to have a massive amount of meat on them. They have unnaturally huge appetites so extreme that they will lick the paint off a truck left in the middle of their field, something that cattle from more natural lines would never do. They're been so badly over-bred that they have no better fate than the slaughterhouse. But the dogs have the adoption chance, why not give it to them?