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Hyde · Posted: Mon Jul 17, 2006 1:59 pm Post subject:

Demonic Spoon wrote: No, I never said you should step down because he's a mod..I agree treating a moderator differently is stupid.

But when you flame a mod, you can be sure a mod is going to notice it.

And what's your point? Who gives a rats ass if we use them as food? We don't need steak; we WANT it. We could just as easily eat vegetables.

So why are dogs worthy of life and not cows?

its not that one is better than the other. he is slaughtering with no point except to kill. cows are slaughtered because we are human and we eat meat. that man rounded up dogs at his home and killed them all for no reason except what seems to be his own personal pleasure. that is my problem with it.

Demonic Spoon · Joined: 20 Sep 2004 Posts: 6953 Location: Ohio

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its not that one is better than the other. he is slaughtering with no point except to kill. cows are slaughtered because we are human and we eat meat. that man rounded up dogs at his home and killed them all for no reason except what seems to be his own personal pleasure. that is my problem with it.

...actually it was most likely his job.

And, once again, we do not need to eat meat at all. Meat is a luxury. We eat meat for our own personal benefit.

Just like he helped get rid of dogs that the owners did not want anymore...it was for their own personal benefit.

It was all for the same purpose.

Hyde · Posted: Mon Jul 17, 2006 3:03 pm Post subject:

ic Spoon wrote: Quote:

its not that one is better than the other. he is slaughtering with no point except to kill. cows are slaughtered because we are human and we eat meat. that man rounded up dogs at his home and all for no reason except what seems to be his own personal pleasure. that is my problem with it.

...actually it was most likely his job.

And, once again, we do not need to eat meat at all. Meat is a luxury. We eat meat for our own personal benefit.

Just like he helped get rid of dogs that the owners did not want anymore...it was for their own personal benefit.

It was all for the same purpose.

his job is to slaughter dogs? why wouldnt the owneers send the dogs to the spca or whatever they have over there instead of giving them a sentence for no reason except to get the dogs out of their hands. when a cow is slaughtered it is for a reason. to feed people. and food is not a luxury. it is a necesity. in conclusion, those men who sent the dogs to die are all in all cruel. sending a dog to die out of pure lazyness is madness. it was not a neccesity for those dogs to die.

Wolverine · Joined: 15 Jul 2005 Posts: 11045 Location: Podunk, Colorado

I bet if they sent the dogs to the vet, so the vet could kill them, no one would make a big deal about it.

Demonic Spoon · Joined: 20 Sep 2004 Posts: 6953 Location: Ohio

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his job is to slaughter dogs? why wouldnt the owneers send the dogs to the spca or whatever they have over there instead of giving them a sentence for no reason except to get the dogs out of their hands. when a cow is slaughtered it is for a reason. to feed people. and food is not a luxury. it is a necesity. in conclusion, those men who sent the dogs to die are all in all cruel. sending a dog to die out of pure lazyness is madness. it was not a neccesity for those dogs to die.

true, but once again, it was done out of convenience. You can't condemn it unless you put down that steak.

Yeah, food is a necessity...but it's FAR easier to farm for food than it is to use animals. If we just needed basic food, then everyone would simply farm instead of killing animals.

Breaking away from farming in order to kill animals for food is because people enjoy eating meat more than other things. Meat is a luxury food.

Hyde · Posted: Mon Jul 17, 2006 4:20 pm Post subject:

ic Spoon wrote: Quote:
his job is to slaughter dogs? why wouldnt the owneers send the dogs to the spca or whatever they have over there instead of giving them a sentence for no reason except to get the dogs out of their hands. when a cow is slaughtered it is for a reason. to feed people. and food is not a luxury. it is a necesity. in conclusion, those men who sent the dogs to die are all in all cruel. sending a dog to die out of pure lazyness is madness. it was not a neccesity for those dogs to die.

true, but once again, it was done out of convenience. You can't condemn it unless you put down that steak.

Yeah, food is a necessity...but it's FAR easier to farm for food than it is to use animals. If we just needed basic food, then everyone would simply farm instead of animals.

Breaking away from farming in order to kill animals for food is because people enjoy eating meat more than other things. Meat is a luxury food.

i need protien. meat is an excelent source of it. you cant condemn one way of getting it just becaus there is another.

Demonic Spoon · Joined: 20 Sep 2004 Posts: 6953 Location: Ohio

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i need protien. meat is an excelent source of it. you cant condemn one way of getting it just becaus there is another.

There are many sources of protein-most of them far easier to get than meat.

And I am not condemning meat...I love meat.

Hyde · Posted: Mon Jul 17, 2006 6:15 pm Post subject:

Demonic Spoon wrote: Quote:
i need protien. meat is an excelent source of it. you cant condemn one way of getting it just becaus there is another.

There are many sources of protein-most of them far easier to get than meat.

And I am not condemning meat...I love meat.

yes there are other ways of protien, by they are no more easy to get than meat. they are both in an aisle at a grocery store and both dont cost that much.

spearsy23 · Joined: 24 Oct 2005 Posts: 5632 Location: Fulton, Ks

Farmers own cows it's not easier for tehm to plant crops than to raise cows.

Why teh hell is it so hard to type an h before an e? them them them them them them them them them them them

Demonic Spoon · Joined: 20 Sep 2004 Posts: 6953 Location: Ohio

Considering it requires those same crops to feed a cow, whereas with farming those crops go directly to the store...

Hyde · Posted: Mon Jul 17, 2006 9:46 pm Post subject:

ic Spoon wrote: Considering it requires those same crops to feed a cow, whereas with farming those crops go directly to the store...

not true. cows graze on grass. thats why cattle farmers have so much land. if they had to pay for food, the cost to feed them would be more than they are sold for.

spearsy23 · Joined: 24 Oct 2005 Posts: 5632 Location: Fulton, Ks

Demonic Spoon wrote: Considering it requires those same crops to feed a cow, whereas with farming those crops go directly to the store...

You know VERY LITTLE about farming/cattle raising.

micfranklin · Posted: Tue Jul 18, 2006 4:53 pm Post subject:

Wolverine wrote: I bet if they sent the dogs to the vet, so the vet could kill them, no one would make a big deal about it.

I'd make a big deal out of it, thats for damn sure. Killing 10,000 dogs is just plain wrong, whether you're a vet or a commie or some random man.

spearsy23 · Joined: 24 Oct 2005 Posts: 5632 Location: Fulton, Ks

micfranklin wrote: Wolverine wrote: I bet if they sent the dogs to the vet, so the vet could kill them, no one would make a big deal about it.

I'd make a big deal out of it, thats for damn sure. Killing 10,000 dogs is just plain wrong, whether you're a vet or a commie or some random man.

So random women are okay?

bob.appleyard · Joined: 15 Oct 2005 Posts: 7747 Location: Manchestar, innit

Oh no, the doggies died!

micfranklin · Posted: Tue Jul 18, 2006 5:23 pm Post subject:

spearsy23 wrote: micfranklin wrote: Wolverine wrote: I bet if they sent the dogs to the vet, so the vet could kill them, no one would make a big deal about it.

I'd make a big deal out of it, thats for damn sure. Killing 10,000 dogs is just plain wrong, whether you're a vet or a commie or some random man.

So random women are okay?

Absolutely not.

Wolverine · Joined: 15 Jul 2005 Posts: 11045 Location: Podunk, Colorado

micfranklin wrote: Wolverine wrote: I bet if they sent the dogs to the vet, so the vet could kill them, no one would make a big deal about it.

I'd make a big deal out of it, thats for damn sure. Killing 10,000 dogs is just plain wrong, whether you're a vet or a commie or some random man.
Vets put down animals all the time, whether it be this or that animal shelter not having enough money to feed them, or the Smiths putting down the dog because it growled at Little Jimmy.

micfranklin · Posted: Tue Jul 18, 2006 6:00 pm Post subject:

Wolverine wrote: micfranklin wrote: Wolverine wrote: I bet if they sent the dogs to the vet, so the vet could kill them, no one would make a big deal about it.

I'd make a big deal out of it, thats for damn sure. Killing 10,000 dogs is just plain wrong, whether you're a vet or a commie or some random man.
Vets put down animals all the time, whether it be this or that animal shelter not having enough money to feed them, or the Smiths putting down the dog because it growled at Little Jimmy.

But this guy shot them dead. Vets simply gas animals so they go to sleep...right?

spearsy23 · Joined: 24 Oct 2005 Posts: 5632 Location: Fulton, Ks

gas is not more humane than a bullet through the head both are quick clean and efficient but one is less costly than the other.

micfranklin · Posted: Tue Jul 18, 2006 6:05 pm Post subject:

spearsy23 wrote: gas is not more humane than a bullet through the head both are quick clean and efficient but one is less costly than the other.

But is watching a dog get gasses more or less humane than watching a dog get shot in the head?