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John Galt
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| Posted: Sat Jul 15, 2006 1:49 pm Post subject: Israel: Iranian troops helped Hezbollah fire at Israeli ship |
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Israel: Iran Aided Hezbollah Ship Attack
By MATT MOORE
Associated Press Writer
JERUSALEM (AP) -- A missile fired by Hezbollah, not an unmanned drone laden with explosives, damaged an Israeli warship off Lebanon, the army said Saturday. Elite Iranian troops helped fire the missile, a senior Israeli intelligence official said.
One sailor was killed and three were missing.
The intelligence official, who spoke on condition of anonymity because of the sensitive nature of the information, said about 100 Iranian soldiers are in Lebanon and helped fire the Iranian-made, radar-guided C-102 at the ship late Friday.
The official added that the troops involved in firing the missile are from the Iranian Revolutionary Guard, an elite corps of more than 200,000 fighters that is independent of the regular armed forces and controlled directly by supreme leader Ayatollah Ali Khamenei.
Initial information indicated the guerrillas had used a drone for the first time to attack Israeli forces. But the army's investigation showed that Hezbollah had fired an Iranian-made missile at the vessel from the shores of Lebanon, said Brig. Gen. Ido Nehushtan.
"We can confirm that it was hit by an Iranian-made missile launched by Hezbollah. We see this as very profound fingerprint of Iranian involvement in Hezbollah," Nehushtan said in an interview with The Associated Press.
Another Hezbollah missile also hit and sank a nearby merchant ship at around the same time, Nehushtan said. He said that ship apparently was Egyptian, but had no other information.
Nehushtan said the body of one of the four Israeli soldiers missing in the attack was found aboard the damaged warship. Other Israeli military officials said two bodies had been found.
The Israeli vessel, a Saar 5-class missile ship named the "Spear," was heading to its home port in Israel on Saturday, the army said.
A military official said the ship is one of the most technologically advanced in the Israeli fleet, boasting an array of Harpoon and Gabriel missiles, along with a system for electronically jamming attacking missiles and other threats.
The official, who spoke on condition of anonymity because of the sensitivity of the information, said the missile detection and deflection system was not operating, apparently because the sailors did not anticipate such an attack.
The Israeli intelligence official said Hezbollah also has Iranian-made drones, and warned that they are more accurate than missiles.
Israel launched an offensive after Hezbollah guerrillas crossed the Israel-Lebanon border on Wednesday and captured two Israeli soldiers. Israel has bombarded Lebanon's airport and main roads in the most intensive offensive against the country in 24 years, while Hezbollah has launched hundreds of rockets into Israel.
The intense fighting has sent shock waves through a region already traumatized by Israel's battle against Hamas militants in the Gaza Strip.
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hill0118
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| Posted: Sat Jul 15, 2006 5:56 pm Post subject: |
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I think we are seeing now who the real players are in this game. Anybody remember Ahmadinejad's little speech where he said that the Zionist entity "should be wiped off the map"? Uh. . . anyone think he was only kidding now?
That man, should he be allowed to develop a nuclear warhead, would not hesitate to hand it over to his cronies in Hezbolla or Hamas. And we all know how their opinion on Israel closely mirrors Ahmadinejad's. |
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Johannes
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| Posted: Sat Jul 15, 2006 8:45 pm Post subject: |
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hill0118 wrote: I think we are seeing now who the real players are in this game. Anybody remember Ahmadinejad's little speech where he said that the Zionist entity "should be wiped off the map"? Uh. . . anyone think he was only kidding now?
That man, should he be allowed to develop a nuclear warhead, would not hesitate to hand it over to his cronies in Hezbolla or Hamas. And we all know how their opinion on Israel closely mirrors Ahmadinejad's.
I agree, and all I have to say, is Here we go again.... :roll: |
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1Gil1
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| Posted: Sat Jul 15, 2006 9:03 pm Post subject: |
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| I hope this is by far the longest shot Iran will ever have with Israel. |
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Johannes
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| Posted: Sat Jul 15, 2006 9:13 pm Post subject: |
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1Gil1 wrote: I hope this is by far the longest shot Iran will ever have with Israel.
I doubt it will be, but i hope it is. |
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psholtz
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| Posted: Sun Jul 16, 2006 12:06 am Post subject: |
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| Does anybody actually believe any of this propaganda? :roll: |
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nkiscrazy
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| Posted: Sun Jul 16, 2006 11:41 am Post subject: |
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| what do you mean psholtz? |
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angusrae
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| Posted: Sun Jul 16, 2006 2:48 pm Post subject: |
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nkiscrazy wrote: what do you mean psholtz?
What he means is how convenient For Bush and The Israel government that this piece of information has been found out just as world opinion was moving against Israel and the USA.
It is step one in his reasons for invading Iran plan. |
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Brucyboy26
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| Posted: Sun Jul 16, 2006 3:06 pm Post subject: |
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| I think that Israel is simply trying to pressure the United States to warring Iran. |
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1Gil1
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| Posted: Sun Jul 16, 2006 3:29 pm Post subject: |
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Brucyboy26 wrote: I think that Israel is simply trying to pressure the United States to warring Iran.
What for? We never had anything with Iran before.
Unless Iran launches it's Shihab 3 missile at Israel, I believe a US intervention will be unneccesary. This is just like the Gulf War days. |
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Brucyboy26
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| Posted: Sun Jul 16, 2006 4:40 pm Post subject: |
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1Gil1 wrote: Brucyboy26 wrote: I think that Israel is simply trying to pressure the United States to warring Iran.
What for? We never had anything with Iran before.
Unless Iran launches it's Shihab 3 missile at Israel, I believe a US intervention will be unneccesary. This is just like the Gulf War days.
Bush is already flirting with the idea because of Iran's WMD program. |
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Johannes
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| Posted: Sun Jul 16, 2006 4:49 pm Post subject: |
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Brucyboy26 wrote: 1Gil1 wrote: Brucyboy26 wrote: I think that Israel is simply trying to pressure the United States to warring Iran.
What for? We never had anything with Iran before.
Unless Iran launches it's Shihab 3 missile at Israel, I believe a US intervention will be unneccesary. This is just like the Gulf War days.
Bush is already flirting with the idea because of Iran's WMD program.
Riiiight, as we're losing a war in Iraq (politically mind you). Bush may be dumb, but he's not mentally retarded. Attacking Iran is suicide if we keep the bulk of our military in Afghanistan and Iraq. |
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Brucyboy26
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| Posted: Sun Jul 16, 2006 4:56 pm Post subject: |
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| I'm not saying that it will happen, but I'm just pointing out that it would be in Israel's interests if the United States did become involved. |
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Johannes
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| Posted: Sun Jul 16, 2006 5:08 pm Post subject: |
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Brucyboy26 wrote: I'm not saying that it will happen, but I'm just pointing out that it would be in Israel's interests if the United States did become involved.
Lol, you think we aren't already? |
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Brucyboy26
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| Posted: Sun Jul 16, 2006 5:16 pm Post subject: |
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| Militarily involved, that is ;) |
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Johannes
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| Posted: Sun Jul 16, 2006 5:39 pm Post subject: |
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| That would be catastrophic...I can't imagine American troops taking on an enemy that will percievably crumble like Iraq's, only to have them dig in a cause huge casualties. It would be over. America would withdraw, the President impeached, and we would be in isolation again. |
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Brucyboy26
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| Posted: Sun Jul 16, 2006 8:26 pm Post subject: |
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| Perhaps America should be more isolated. |
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Johannes
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| Posted: Sun Jul 16, 2006 8:30 pm Post subject: |
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| And perhaps more Hitlers should arise? |
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Brucyboy26
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| Posted: Sun Jul 16, 2006 8:42 pm Post subject: |
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| Hitler was voted into office, and in order to prevent other Hitler's, the United States would have to meddle in the elections of other nations. That is a very grey area for me. |
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Johannes
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| Posted: Sun Jul 16, 2006 8:54 pm Post subject: |
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Brucyboy26 wrote: Hitler was voted into office, and in order to prevent other Hitler's, the United States would have to meddle in the elections of other nations. That is a very grey area for me.
We meddled in Iraq's elections by making sure that all of the extremist groups were too busy fighting us instead of gathering votes. |
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