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[angusrae]

It seems that Tony Blair is becoming more and more isolated in parliament and even within his own party on many issue’s he is now at odds with significant numbers of his own party and ever vote now seems to bring Labour backbench rebellions which require Tory MP‘s votes to pass the legislation his party is seeking to introduce in some twisted way Tony Blair seems to be training the next generation of Tory Ministers.

The case of the Nat west Three, the lopsided Extradition treaty, Iran and Afghanistan has shown the UK public that PM Blair's love affair with America and President Bush is costing British citizens Their lives and liberty.

http://www.theherald.co.uk/politics/65832.html

http://www.theherald.co.uk/news/65865.html

http://news.scotsman.com/international.cfm?id=1007772006

These three stories have been taken from today’s papers and I am sure that if we were to look back further we would find more cases were Mr. Blair has put the USA’s interests above those off his own nation’s.

It seems that Mr. Blair does not wish to be a British prime-minister but rather the governor for one of the next four states in the USA those being England, Scotland, Northern Ireland and Wales

[thundertaker]

I am baffled as to why a British prime-minister is more concerned at pleasing foreign politicians than he is of incurring the wrath of the British people, his own party and of Parliament. I've always wondered why he bends over backwards for the americans in such a humiliating way. Have they got photographic evidence of him in a compromising position with someone or something that isn't his wife/adult/human or something?

The irony is, I think this is actually harming anglo-american relations. People are begining to transpose their resentment of Blair's attitude of supplanting Britain's national interests to America's onto America and Americans themselves, as evidenced by the number of stories you hear of American tourists in London being verbally abused and chased out of pubs etc. Blair needs to go ASAP........

[Eton]

Hopefully this will wake everyone up to the reality that the real enemy is not the EU but in fact - the US.

[thundertaker]

Eton wrote: Hopefully this will wake everyone up to the reality that the real enemy is not the EU but in fact - the US.

No, the real enemy is a British government that willfully ignores the interests of those whose job it is to look after, i.e. the British People.....

[Boneman]

What is David Camerons position on the US-UK relations thing? I get the impression that he has pretty much the same ideas as blair.

[Lord Hargreaves]

Boneman wrote: What is David Camerons position on the US-UK relations thing? I get the impression that he has pretty much the same ideas as blair.

Don't think he has one, hasn't read the latest opinion polls yet

[Ssushi]

Trying to maintain the UK-US 'Special Relationship' is the pathetic way in which the British hope to use the US in maintaining its foreign policy, post the end of the British Empire... We take it from behind and use pillow talk to try to get the americans to do what we want... My self estime has never been higher... :roll:

[Achilles The Myrmidon]

Lord Hargreaves wrote: Boneman wrote: What is David Camerons position on the US-UK relations thing? I get the impression that he has pretty much the same ideas as blair.

Don't think he has one, hasn't read the latest opinion polls yet :lol: :lol: :lol:

[maxtsu]

The so called "special reltionship" is really justy a PR spin phrase.
The US only cares for itself. Just like any other country.

[DSwain]

The 2003 Extradition Act is seriously flawed and should be suspended vis the United States until Congress ratifies. Even better, the Act should be superceded. This is all about a government that is out of touch, not about the so-called 'Special Relationship' (which I don't particularly believe in anyway; like maxtsu, I believe that countries are motivated by self-interest).

Afghanistan - nothing to do with our pleasing the US, everything to do with beating the Taliban.

http://www.nato.int/issues/afghanistan/index.html

Look at this link regarding the NATO mission in Afghanistan. There are 37 countries contributing forces in Afghanistan - all pillow biting arse lickers are they?

Iraq - nothing to do with our pleasing the US, everything to do with Saddam breaching UNSC resolutions and breaking the terms of the Gulf War ceasefire.

If you disagree with British policy on Iraq and Afghanistan then debate it on the facts. Don't resort to cheap xenophobia about the evil United States and crude humour about 'Bliar' the poodle.

[AKAMad]

angusrae wrote: It seems that Tony Blair is becoming more and more isolated in parliament and even within his own party on many issue’s he is now at odds with significant numbers of his own party and ever vote now seems to bring Labour backbench rebellions which require Tory MP‘s votes to pass the legislation his party is seeking to introduce in some twisted way Tony Blair seems to be training the next generation of Tory Ministers.

The case of the Nat west Three, the lopsided Extradition treaty, Iran and Afghanistan has shown the UK public that PM Blair's love affair with America and President Bush is costing British citizens Their lives and liberty.

http://www.theherald.co.uk/politics/65832.html

http://www.theherald.co.uk/news/65865.html

http://news.scotsman.com/international.cfm?id=1007772006

These three stories have been taken from today’s papers and I am sure that if we were to look back further we would find more cases were Mr. Blair has put the USA’s interests above those off his own nation’s.

It seems that Mr. Blair does not wish to be a British prime-minister but rather the governor for one of the next four states in the USA those being England, Scotland, Northern Ireland and Wales

If Blair can palm off Northern Ireland on the Yanks, it would be his greatest triumph :lol: :lol: :lol:

[cloud]

i'd like to ask mr Blair what the f*ck happened to all his promises he made when he was on the campaign trial b4 winning the general election in 1997.

another question is why birds fly?

[AKAMad]

I usually haven't got a good word to say about Blair and Bush, but how many stupidities has he managed to prevent. Remember that story about how they wanted to bomb Al Jezeera. Dealing with an incompetant ally must be the trickest thing a leader can do.