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Gallen
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| Posted: Wed Jul 12, 2006 3:42 am Post subject: Theories on Military/Homeland Spending |
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First, I am a 17 year old '06 High School graduate in Colorado. These are my thoughts, and do not express any other opinion.
Objective one, failed. We all know that it is a fact that we didn't find any WMD's in Iraq. Objective two, complete. Saddam Heussen was arrested and tried. Objective three, failed. We never found Osama Bin Laden, we cannot find him, and his life status is unknown despite recent audio tapes. If I am not mistaken, these were three main objectives in this war. I don't like those odds, personally. Rather, I feel that we need to withdraw troops from the Middle East, cut Military spending, and raise spending in Homeland Security. This is my theory in a nutshell, I will elaborate upon request. Feedback is much appreciated. |
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.locke.
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| first of all any WMDs wouldve been moved to syria lybia or hidden in the desert, as soon as they knew war was coming. and if its Bin laden your mad about dont blame Bush. on a 60 minutes news report several years ago one o the topics was that Bill Clinton had the chance to buy bin laden from some country in South Africa. but if you think about it how long can he keep hiding. he doesnt even use a cellphone or any type of phone cuz hes afraid of being cuaght, and if we pull out how do you expect to catch him? |
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TNBiologist
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Objective One: WMD's have been found just they are from around the time of the first Gulf War so many people have dismissed them. Personally, I think objective complete as even these 15 year old weapons still work and Saddom was not picky who he sold military hardware to.
Objective Two: Saddom overthrown. Complete. Now we are dealing with trying to get a fair trail via Iraqi law while islamo-terrorist are kidnapping the lawers and judges.
Objective Three: bin Ladin is on the run. He is having to live a very secrete life due to being hunted. He smuggles videos of himself to TV stations because he can no longer move freely to enlist supporters in person as was his practice pre-9/11. Have we caught him? no yet. We had him cornered and to help with relations we let our Afgan allies catch him and he escaped. We will find him again. |
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Wyatt Earp
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| Posted: Wed Jul 12, 2006 5:05 pm Post subject: Re: Theories on Military/Homeland Spending |
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Gallen wrote: First, I am a 17 year old '06 High School graduate in Colorado. These are my thoughts, and do not express any other opinion.
Objective one, failed. We all know that it is a fact that we didn't find any WMD's in Iraq. Objective two, complete. Saddam Heussen was arrested and tried. Objective three, failed. We never found Osama Bin Laden, we cannot find him, and his life status is unknown despite recent audio tapes. If I am not mistaken, these were three main objectives in this war. I don't like those odds, personally. Rather, I feel that we need to withdraw troops from the Middle East, cut Military spending, and raise spending in Homeland Security. This is my theory in a nutshell, I will elaborate upon request. Feedback is much appreciated.
As a person who voted for Bush in 2000
I finally understand now what the real reason / objectives was for this war
Objective one: Take out Sudamm Finnish what Bush's daddy started. mission complete
Objective two; Try out Americas newest and latest weapons. mission complete
Objective three: Tick off the world and say you / show you can not push around America like you did during the Clinton years: Mission complete
Objective four: Disrupt the supply of oil in the world (Not steal Iraq's oil)
so oil prices go though the roof. Mission complete
Objective Five: make sure there is not another terrorist attack on USA soil: so far so good.
Do I think these were good objectives NOOO. That's why I did not vote in 2004. He should of Did what Reagan did in Panama get the bad guy and get out. |
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canucklehead
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| Posted: Wed Jul 12, 2006 6:39 pm Post subject: Re: Theories on Military/Homeland Spending |
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Gallen wrote: First, I am a 17 year old '06 High School graduate in Colorado. These are my thoughts, and do not express any other opinion.
Objective one, failed. We all know that it is a fact that we didn't find any WMD's in Iraq. Objective two, complete. Saddam Heussen was arrested and tried. Objective three, failed. We never found Osama Bin Laden, we cannot find him, and his life status is unknown despite recent audio tapes. If I am not mistaken, these were three main objectives in this war. I don't like those odds, personally. Rather, I feel that we need to withdraw troops from the Middle East, cut Military spending, and raise spending in Homeland Security. This is my theory in a nutshell, I will elaborate upon request. Feedback is much appreciated.
So you're basically saying that America should go back into its isolationalist mode of the 1930's? Well, that arguably had consequences for the world in the next decade. I don't know, it sounds like turning America into this fortress, keep to ourselves and all of that stuff. I doubt that America will cut military spending though. |
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Gallen
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| Posted: Wed Jul 12, 2006 9:31 pm Post subject: Re: Theories on Military/Homeland Spending |
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canucklehead wrote: Gallen wrote: First, I am a 17 year old '06 High School graduate in Colorado. These are my thoughts, and do not express any other opinion.
Objective one, failed. We all know that it is a fact that we didn't find any WMD's in Iraq. Objective two, complete. Saddam Heussen was arrested and tried. Objective three, failed. We never found Osama Bin Laden, we cannot find him, and his life status is unknown despite recent audio tapes. If I am not mistaken, these were three main objectives in this war. I don't like those odds, personally. Rather, I feel that we need to withdraw troops from the Middle East, cut Military spending, and raise spending in Homeland Security. This is my theory in a nutshell, I will elaborate upon request. Feedback is much appreciated.
So you're basically saying that America should go back into its isolationalist mode of the 1930's? Well, that arguably had consequences for the world in the next decade. I don't know, it sounds like turning America into this fortress, keep to ourselves and all of that stuff. I doubt that America will cut military spending though.
I'm not necesarilly saying that America should just disappear from the rest of the world and be isolated. But I think that our job in Iraq is done, our objectives are completed, for the most part, and I feel we should withdraw and take the country off of it's training wheels. |
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.locke.
Joined: 10 Jul 2006
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| Posted: Wed Jul 12, 2006 9:59 pm Post subject: Re: Theories on Military/Homeland Spending |
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Wyatt Earp wrote: Gallen wrote: First, I am a 17 year old '06 High School graduate in Colorado. These are my thoughts, and do not express any other opinion.
Objective one, failed. We all know that it is a fact that we didn't find any WMD's in Iraq. Objective two, complete. Saddam Heussen was arrested and tried. Objective three, failed. We never found Osama Bin Laden, we cannot find him, and his life status is unknown despite recent audio tapes. If I am not mistaken, these were three main objectives in this war. I don't like those odds, personally. Rather, I feel that we need to withdraw troops from the Middle East, cut Military spending, and raise spending in Homeland Security. This is my theory in a nutshell, I will elaborate upon request. Feedback is much appreciated.
As a person who voted for Bush in 2000
I finally understand now what the real reason / objectives was for this war
Objective one: Take out Sudamm Finnish what Bush's daddy started. mission complete
Objective two; Try out Americas newest and latest weapons. mission complete
Objective three: Tick off the world and say you / show you can not push around America like you did during the Clinton years: Mission complete
Objective four: Disrupt the supply of oil in the world (Not steal Iraq's oil)
so oil prices go though the roof. Mission complete
Objective Five: make sure there is not another terrorist attack on USA soil: so far so good.
Do I think these were good objectives NOOO. That's why I did not vote in 2004. He should of Did what Reagan did in Panama get the bad guy and get out.
I dont understand #4.. why would that be one of the objectives?
but i dont know what to think about that get em and get out. cuz if we wouldve done that his sons might have just come up and taken control. if not it would be a 3-way civil war possibly between the kurds shiites and sunnis, (hope i spelled those right) but then again it would save a lot of money and resources we could use when N. Korea pushes us over the edge.
and if we pulled out now.. itd be that same civil war. if u watch the news then you will notice that there has been an inreasing amount of attacks on each other by the shiites and sunnis. |
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perdidochas
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TNBiologist wrote: Objective One: WMD's have been found just they are from around the time of the first Gulf War so many people have dismissed them. Personally, I think objective complete as even these 15 year old weapons still work and Saddom was not picky who he sold military hardware to.
Objective Two: Saddom overthrown. Complete. Now we are dealing with trying to get a fair trail via Iraqi law while islamo-terrorist are kidnapping the lawers and judges.
Objective Three: bin Ladin is on the run. He is having to live a very secrete life due to being hunted. He smuggles videos of himself to TV stations because he can no longer move freely to enlist supporters in person as was his practice pre-9/11. Have we caught him? no yet. We had him cornered and to help with relations we let our Afgan allies catch him and he escaped. We will find him again.
Osama doesn't even do videos anymore, just audiocassettes. |
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Wyatt Earp
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| Posted: Thu Jul 13, 2006 3:26 pm Post subject: Re: Theories on Military/Homeland Spending |
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.locke. wrote: Wyatt Earp wrote: Gallen wrote: First, I am a 17 year old '06 High School graduate in Colorado. These are my thoughts, and do not express any other opinion.
Objective one, failed. We all know that it is a fact that we didn't find any WMD's in Iraq. Objective two, complete. Saddam Heussen was arrested and tried. Objective three, failed. We never found Osama Bin Laden, we cannot find him, and his life status is unknown despite recent audio tapes. If I am not mistaken, these were three main objectives in this war. I don't like those odds, personally. Rather, I feel that we need to withdraw troops from the Middle East, cut Military spending, and raise spending in Homeland Security. This is my theory in a nutshell, I will elaborate upon request. Feedback is much appreciated.
As a person who voted for Bush in 2000
I finally understand now what the real reason / objectives was for this war
Objective one: Take out Sudamm Finnish what Bush's daddy started. mission complete
Objective two; Try out Americas newest and latest weapons. mission complete
Objective three: Tick off the world and say you / show you can not push around America like you did during the Clinton years: Mission complete
Objective four: Disrupt the supply of oil in the world (Not steal Iraq's oil)
so oil prices go though the roof. Mission complete
Objective Five: make sure there is not another ist attack on USA soil: so far so good.
Do I think these were good objectives NOOO. That's why I did not vote in 2004. He should of Did what Reagan did in Panama get the bad guy and get out.
I dont understand #4.. why would that be one of the objectives?
but i dont know what to think about that get em and get out. cuz if we wouldve done that his sons might have just come up and taken control. if not it would be a 3-way civil war possibly between the kurds shiites and sunnis, (hope i spelled those right) but then again it would save a lot of money and resources we could use when N. Korea pushes us over the edge.
and if we pulled out now.. itd be that same civil war. if u watch the news then you will notice that there has been an inreasing amount of attacks on each other by the shiites and sunnis.
So Bush's buddy's could profit off the war |
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.locke.
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| that sounds more like a conspiracy theory to me than actual facts |
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pikers
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.locke. wrote: that sounds more like a conspiracy theory to me than actual facts
That's all they have left. Have pity. :pb: |
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