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I'm running an AMD 2800+ mobile and its only running at 599Mhz. The total clockspeed for this processor is supposed to be 2.25 Ghz (I think). Anyway, this is a processor salvaged from another motherboard, but when I was using in that mainboard it reported as an AMD 2800+ Mobile. I installed this processor and didn't use any thermal paste. I'm wondering if that has something to do with it. The first time I booted the computer with the processor install it reported as 100Mhz processor bus with a multiplier of 6. Anyway, I'm wondering if the no thermal paste deal is whats causing this. I've checked the BIOS and see no options out of place.
I'm probably just going to scrap the whole thing if I can't fix it, but I want to know if I can salvage this processor first (cause I kinda don't want to upgrade right now). TIA.

Melcar · Posted: Mon Jul 24, 2006 8:13 pm Post subject:

What socket is it? Standart ATX boards have compatibility issues with mobile chips. Usually the boards decrease the multiplier, in which case you just need to increase it yourself to the right number.

Edit: I just noticed the no thermal paste part. Most CPU heatsinks come with some kind of thermal paste already applied to the base (a small greyish square at the base of the heatsink). If the heatsink did not have any thermal paste pre-applied to it then you better put some yourself or you risk burning the chip.

FCTE · Joined: 11 Mar 2004 Posts: 18816

Make sure your jumpers on the motherboard are set to the right bus speed for that processor. AMD motherboards are good for several processors and if the jumpers set incorrectly it will register as a slower processor.

Melcar · Posted: Mon Jul 24, 2006 8:23 pm Post subject:

FCTE wrote: Make sure your jumpers on the motherboard are set to the right bus speed for that processor. AMD motherboards are good for several processors and if the jumpers set incorrectly it will register as a slower processor.

mATX boards have jumpers that control the FSB. Make sure they are set correctly (if you have a mATX board).

Pzatchok · Joined: 15 Nov 2004 Posts: 7126

Check the BIOS setup screen.

Sometimes things are automaticly reset to the slowest speed untill manually reset back up.

Normally the FSB, clock speed, memory cashing and other small things can be set that way.

Pzatchok · Joined: 15 Nov 2004 Posts: 7126

Make sure the mother board can handle the processor though.

Also make sure the memory chips can take that speed. Mismatched memory,processor speeds slow things down also.

Protostar · Posted: Wed Jul 26, 2006 4:26 pm Post subject:

Well I've researched it and I've concluded that the mainboard I'm using doesn't support the mobile series processors. Its a wonder it works at all. :lol:
I'm ordering new parts of Mwave (thanks for that site, Grandmaster!! It rocks!!). Intel Dual Core, FTW!!! (to hell with AMD!!!! :evil: )

Melcar · Posted: Wed Jul 26, 2006 4:37 pm Post subject:

Protostar wrote: Well I've researched it and I've concluded that the mainboard I'm using doesn't support the mobile series processors. Its a wonder it works at all. :lol:
I'm ordering new parts of Mwave (thanks for that site, Grandmaster!! It rocks!!). Intel Dual Core, FTW!!! (to hell with AMD!!!! :evil: )

I hope you are going Conroe, because with the current price cuts (rather BIG price cuts) for X2s there is no point in getting an old Pentium Dual Core (not that they are bad, but they do fall behind their AMD counterparts in several benchmarks and real world situations).

Free Thinkr · Posted: Wed Jul 26, 2006 4:44 pm Post subject:

Melcar wrote: Protostar wrote: Well I've researched it and I've concluded that the mainboard I'm using doesn't support the mobile series processors. Its a wonder it works at all. :lol:
I'm ordering new parts of Mwave (thanks for that site, Grandmaster!! It rocks!!). Intel Dual Core, FTW!!! (to hell with AMD!!!! :evil: )

I hope you are going Conroe, because with the current price cuts (rather BIG price cuts) for X2s there is no point in getting an old Pentium Dual Core (not that they are bad, but they do fall behind their AMD counterparts in several benchmarks and real world situations).
Yep. Tomshardware's price/performance curve.

Protostar · Posted: Wed Jul 26, 2006 4:47 pm Post subject:

Melcar wrote: Protostar wrote: Well I've researched it and I've concluded that the mainboard I'm using doesn't support the mobile series processors. Its a wonder it works at all. :lol:
I'm ordering new parts of Mwave (thanks for that site, Grandmaster!! It rocks!!). Intel Dual Core, FTW!!! (to hell with AMD!!!! :evil: )

I hope you are going Conroe, because with the current price cuts (rather BIG price cuts) for X2s there is no point in getting an old Pentium Dual Core (not that they are bad, but they do fall behind their AMD counterparts in several benchmarks and real world situations).

The reason I'm going with Intel (besides the obvious, for those on the forums who have known me long enough) is because the motherboards that support these processors are the only ones that I've seen that support my 6600GT AGP graphics card. I really don't want to replace it as its not all that old, but I'm starting to wonder if its worth constraining myself just to support my card. I'm going to look at the prices for graphics cards when I get home and decide then.

FCTE · Joined: 11 Mar 2004 Posts: 18816

Protostar wrote: The reason I'm going with Intel (besides the obvious, for those on the forums who have known me long enough) is because the motherboards that support these processors are the only ones that I've seen that support my 6600GT AGP graphics card. I really don't want to replace it as its not all that old, but I'm starting to wonder if its worth constraining myself just to support my card. I'm going to look at the prices for graphics cards when I get home and decide then.

I have a 6800 AGP card and have no problems finding compatible AMD 64 motherboards. AGP will still be supported for a couple more years although you may not get the latest and greatest motherboard, but it's a friggin motherboard.

Of course if you already have a better Intel processor then your current processor that kind of makes your decision for you.

If you don't feel like upgrading your motherboard, especially if you don't want to reinstall your OS, then you can still upgrade to several Nvidia cards. They make up to the 7900GTX in AGP, but after the 7900 series AGP will no longer be supported.

Nvidia already has dual core GPU's coming out and a new class of processor in the next few months, in the new SLI configurations (Quad SLI) you will be running 4 GPU's at once instead of two. Trying to keep up with the latest and greatest is pointless and a huge waste of money anyway.

:shock:

Melcar · Posted: Wed Jul 26, 2006 8:14 pm Post subject:

Protostar wrote: Melcar wrote: Protostar wrote: Well I've researched it and I've concluded that the mainboard I'm using doesn't support the mobile series processors. Its a wonder it works at all. :lol:
I'm ordering new parts of Mwave (thanks for that site, Grandmaster!! It rocks!!). Intel Dual Core, FTW!!! (to hell with AMD!!!! :evil: )

I hope you are going Conroe, because with the current price cuts (rather BIG price cuts) for X2s there is no point in getting an old Pentium Dual Core (not that they are bad, but they do fall behind their AMD counterparts in several benchmarks and real world situations).

The reason I'm going with Intel (besides the obvious, for those on the forums who have known me long enough) is because the motherboards that support these processors are the only ones that I've seen that support my 6600GT AGP graphics card. I really don't want to replace it as its not all that old, but I'm starting to wonder if its worth constraining myself just to support my card. I'm going to look at the prices for graphics cards when I get home and decide then.

I would upgrade to PCIx if I were you. AGP still has some hard hitters out there but it will soon be a thing of the past. You're going to eventually have to make the swicth anyways. But if you are short on funds or simply don't want to do a full system upgrade I would keep the graphics card and get a good skt939 AGP board along with a nice X2; don't know how available these boards still are so you may be better of with an Intel board.

Edit: Something to think on
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?Item=N82E16813123263
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?Item=N82E16819103562

Pzatchok · Joined: 15 Nov 2004 Posts: 7126

Jusr replace the main board you have for something about 60 bucks. keeping all your other old stuff.

Save your cash and buy a totally new system later all at once.

Sales happen ALL THE TIME.

Kt · Joined: 23 Jan 2006 Posts: 3806

Protostar wrote:
I'm ordering new parts of Mwave (thanks for that site, Grandmaster!! It rocks!!). Intel Dual Core, FTW!!! (to hell with AMD!!!! :evil: )

What a lost soul...

FCTE · Joined: 11 Mar 2004 Posts: 18816

Helena` wrote: Protostar wrote:
I'm ordering new parts of Mwave (thanks for that site, Grandmaster!! It rocks!!). Intel Dual Core, FTW!!! (to hell with AMD!!!! :evil: )

What a lost soul...

Yeah really, sell out. :snoot: