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Optimist Slime · Joined: 27 Jun 2006 Posts: 67

# Leviticus 19:20
" 'If a man sleeps with a woman who is a slave girl promised to another man but who has not been ransomed or given her freedom, there must be due punishment. Yet they are not to be put to death, because she had not been freed.
Leviticus 19:19-21 (in Context) Leviticus 19 (Whole Chapter)
# Leviticus 22:11
But if a priest buys a slave with money, or if a slave is born in his household, that slave may eat his food.
Leviticus 22:10-12 (in Context) Leviticus 22 (Whole Chapter)
# Leviticus 25:39
" 'If one of your countrymen becomes poor among you and sells himself to you, do not make him work as a slave.
Leviticus 25:38-40 (in Context) Leviticus 25 (Whole Chapter)
# Leviticus 25:42
Because the Israelites are my servants, whom I brought out of Egypt, they must not be sold as slaves.
Leviticus 25:41-43 (in Context) Leviticus 25 (Whole Chapter)
# Leviticus 25:44
" 'Your male and female slaves are to come from the nations around you; from them you may buy slaves.
Leviticus 25:43-45 (in Context) Leviticus 25 (Whole Chapter)
# Leviticus 25:46
You can will them to your children as inherited property and can make them slaves for life, but you must not rule over your fellow Israelites ruthlessly.
Leviticus 25:45-47 (in Context) Leviticus 25 (Whole Chapter)
# Leviticus 26:13
I am the LORD your God, who brought you out of Egypt so that you would no longer be slaves to the Egyptians; I broke the bars of your yoke and enabled you to walk with heads held high.
Leviticus 26:12-14 (in Context) Leviticus 26 (Whole Chapter)
# Deuteronomy 5:6
"I am the LORD your God, who brought you out of Egypt, out of the land of slavery.
Deuteronomy 5:5-7 (in Context) Deuteronomy 5 (Whole Chapter)
# Deuteronomy 5:15
Remember that you were slaves in Egypt and that the LORD your God brought you out of there with a mighty hand and an outstretched arm. Therefore the LORD your God has commanded you to observe the Sabbath day.
Deuteronomy 5:14-16 (in Context) Deuteronomy 5 (Whole Chapter)
# Deuteronomy 6:12
be careful that you do not forget the LORD, who brought you out of Egypt, out of the land of slavery.
Deuteronomy 6:11-13 (in Context) Deuteronomy 6 (Whole Chapter)
# Deuteronomy 6:21
tell him: "We were slaves of Pharaoh in Egypt, but the LORD brought us out of Egypt with a mighty hand.
Deuteronomy 6:20-22 (in Context) Deuteronomy 6 (Whole Chapter)
# Deuteronomy 7:8
But it was because the LORD loved you and kept the oath he swore to your forefathers that he brought you out with a mighty hand and redeemed you from the land of slavery, from the power of Pharaoh king of Egypt.
Deuteronomy 7:7-9 (in Context) Deuteronomy 7 (Whole Chapter)
# Deuteronomy 8:14
then your heart will become proud and you will forget the LORD your God, who brought you out of Egypt, out of the land of slavery.
Deuteronomy 8:13-15 (in Context) Deuteronomy 8 (Whole Chapter)
# Deuteronomy 13:5
That prophet or dreamer must be put to death, because he preached rebellion against the LORD your God, who brought you out of Egypt and redeemed you from the land of slavery; he has tried to turn you from the way the LORD your God commanded you to follow. You must purge the evil from among you.
Deuteronomy 13:4-6 (in Context) Deuteronomy 13 (Whole Chapter)

New Testament

# 1 Timothy 5:1
[ Advice About Widows, Elders and Slaves ] Do not rebuke an older man harshly, but exhort him as if he were your father. Treat younger men as brothers,
1 Timothy 5:1-3 (in Context) 1 Timothy 5 (Whole Chapter)
# 1 Timothy 6:1
All who are under the yoke of slavery should consider their masters worthy of full respect, so that God's name and our teaching may not be slandered.
1 Timothy 6:1-3 (in Context) 1 Timothy 6 (Whole Chapter)
# Titus 2:9
Teach slaves to be subject to their masters in everything, to try to please them, not to talk back to them,
Titus 2:8-10 (in Context) Titus 2 (Whole Chapter)
# Philemon 1:16

Therefore, I command slavery be reinstituted!

micfranklin · Posted: Wed Jul 05, 2006 5:07 pm Post subject:

There is absolutely no way in hell for me to state, without using emotions, how bad of an idea that is....and repressive, too.

Optimist Slime · Joined: 27 Jun 2006 Posts: 67

micfranklin wrote: There is absolutely no way in hell for me to state, without using emotions, how bad of an idea that is....and repressive, too.
Don't question the Lord. Thus saith t he Lord thy God. And I say stone those who disagree!!

micfranklin · Posted: Wed Jul 05, 2006 5:36 pm Post subject:

Optimist Slime wrote: micfranklin wrote: There is absolutely no way in hell for me to state, without using emotions, how bad of an idea that is....and repressive, too.
Don't question the Lord. Thus saith t he Lord thy God. And I say stone those who disagree!!

I hope you don't plan on hurting me just because my point of view is different than yours :? . And if the idea of reinstituting slavery was introduced to the Senate and/or House, it would be shot down like a hunter shoots a goose out of the sky.

Wolverine · Joined: 15 Jul 2005 Posts: 10973 Location: Podunk, Colorado

Shoot the slave drivers, slavery is a direct infringement of your basic human rights.

micfranklin · Posted: Wed Jul 05, 2006 5:58 pm Post subject:

Only a very twisted person who would applaud that sick s**t would want slavery back.

Aqualung · Joined: 03 Jun 2006 Posts: 2260 Location: Washington

None of those say slavery is holy and righteous, but rather tell people how to make the best of a bad situation.

Wolverine · Joined: 15 Jul 2005 Posts: 10973 Location: Podunk, Colorado

micfranklin wrote: Only a very twisted person who would applaud that sick s**t would want slavery back.
The verses themselves are not sick or unholy or anything, the fact he is reading them out of context is the problem.

Aim-64C · Posted: Wed Jul 05, 2006 6:12 pm Post subject:

I think this is an attempt to slander Christianity?

Those are all taken out of context.

I won't take the time to look up the exact text yet, as I don't see the need to, however;

From the looks of the text, the sets of laws are setting down how slaves and their owners are to be treated - as this was already a large part of society and not something that would simply 'go away'.

The first one is regarding the treatment of a slave who has been promissed to mariage and is still owned (unless she has been ransomed - put up for a bid - or freed).

The second is stating that slaves of priests are expected to be given food by the priest.

The third says NOT to allow someone who is poor who sells himself to you to work as a slave - meaning you would treat them as an employee or co-worker.

The fourth is.... I don't know why that is included in arguements for slavery....

The fifth and sixth are saying that the Isrealites are allowed to have slaves and not to allow their countrymen into slavery (again).

I have no idea what the others are in refference to or why they are here....

What in the world does Timothy 5:1 have to do with slavery?

The next one is a commandment to slaves not to forsake the values of their religion.

..... so I have no idea where in the world you come up with how God commands Slavery....

Looks to me like you did some search in a bible search engine with every result of 'slave'.

eynon · Posted: Wed Jul 05, 2006 6:14 pm Post subject:

CrossEyedMary wrote: None of those say slavery is holy and righteous, but rather tell people how to make the best of a bad situation.

yep...... :)

micfranklin · Posted: Wed Jul 05, 2006 7:13 pm Post subject:

Still, the thought of slavery being legal again is appauling.

eynon · Posted: Wed Jul 05, 2006 7:17 pm Post subject:

micfranklin wrote: Still, the thought of slavery being legal again is appauling.

s**t still exists, even in the US:
http://www.berkeley.edu/news/media/releases/2004/09/23_16691.shtml

thundertaker · Posted: Wed Jul 05, 2006 7:20 pm Post subject:

You could probably justify/condemn just about anything with selective quotes from the bible.......

David · Joined: 28 Dec 2003 Posts: 12379 Location: Louisiana

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