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[johnflesh]

There is a book I used to have and cannot find about World Government. Ficitional of course at this point but it was interesting because it highlighted a failure of the implimentation of a world government and how that in of itself had turned society into a paranoid world. Like for instance, if you needed the police to help you, you'd have to hire them. People had bullet proof glass on their cars and flame retarding materials, because if you caused a traffic accident, you'd have to deal with the crazies behind and in front of you.

Called Scorch.

Interesting read.

[Rhoades]

or you could all just read 1984. If only that book was required reading in today's highschool's, this country would be in a lot better shape.

[Norrin Radd]

MG1962 wrote: Quote: Every single other government in the whole world.

Then feel free to point out the evidence you condem my govenment with

Evidence?

You are kidding right?

The history of Australia is written in the blood of Aboriginies.

While the US is much worse, Autralia is not so innocent.

Maybe you could tell us about the corruption in your own government, or maybe you have never bothered to look. Here are some links to get you started........

http://www.whistleblowing.com.au/

http://www1.oecd.org/daf/asiacom/countries/australia.htm

SOME GOOD NEWS ABOUT AUSTRALIA........

International watchdog says corruption in Australia low
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The World Today - Friday, 26 March , 2004 12:41:03
Reporter: Michael Vincent
HAMISH ROBERTSON: Australia has just been placed at the top of an international index of bribe-paying countries. Well, it sounds confusing, but it isn't apparently. It's for good reasons rather than bad ones. The international watchdog group, Transparency International, has just released its annual report on global corruption.

And the prominent corruption-fighter, Frank Costigan QC, who's the Chair of Transparency International's local branch, has been telling Michael Vincent that Australia being named on top of the list, in fact is confusing.

FRANK COSTIGAN: In fact, it's the exact reverse of what you might think when you look at it. It's the best people who are at the top, and the biggest bribe-payers at the bottom. So I can understand people being confused at first sight, but Australia rates very well, indeed it rates the best in the world at not paying bribes.

http://www.abc.net.au/worldtoday/content/2004/s1074661.htm

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Anyways, while Australia does rank low on corruption lists worldwide, what does this prove?

Australia is one of the newest countries in the world. The country has plenty of land and other resources, unlike the majority of other countries in the world. The challenges facing Australia are nothing compared to 3/4 of the other countries in the world.

The fact is that almost every country in the world has a corrupt government. The majority of human rights abuses in the world are committed by governments.

If you support world government, then you either do not believe in freedom, or you do not understand what freedom means.

[Wizard From Oz]

OMG - you are so funny - Did you actual read these links??????

http://www.whistleblowing.com.au/

Is about the NSW police force - Not the Australian Government - and contains the following text

Deborah blew the whistle on major corruption within the ranks of the NSW Police Force during the 1990’s. Her perseverance in going public with her allegations of widespread corruption ultimately helped bring about the establishment of the Wood Royal Commission which lead to wide ranging reforms to the brotherhood.

and

http://www1.oecd.org/daf/asiacom/countries/australia.htm

Lists all the institutions in Australia that are set up to stop corruption.


And this has me totally puzzled

http://www.abc.net.au/worldtoday/content/2004/s1074661.htm

Mr Costigan actually agrees we belong in the lowest echelon of corrupt nations

Australia has just been placed at the top of an international index of bribe-paying countries

then explains what this means

In fact, it's the exact reverse of what you might think when you look at it. It's the best people who are at the top, and the biggest bribe-payers at the bottom. So I can understand people being confused at first sight, but Australia rates very well, indeed it rates the best in the world at not paying bribes.

Now back to the Aborginal question - How much Aborginal blood has been spilt since we became a nation in 1901?

And I am really curious exactly what freedoms I am going to loose under a world government???????

[Golden Child]

Aim-64C wrote: I pray to God I'm wrong - because it's going to be a really crappy time to live in... but... the sooner it happens - the less we have to worry about it happening.

I say just the opposite. Ignorance is bliss(No I'm not close minded, ignorant, or stupid you f***ing obsessive bastards). If it does happen I hope it is not in my time as it would indeed be an atrocious time to live.

A one world government like many have said is inevitable. That's scary in itself, but what's even more scary is how corrupt that one government will be. Such small governments of each and every country is undoubtedly corrupt. I cannot imagine the limits of a large corrupt government. One that is absolute. One that cannot be challenged by another..... :-|

[Norrin Radd]

MG1962 wrote: OMG - you are so funny - Did you actual read these links??????

http://www.whistleblowing.com.au/

Is about the NSW police force - Not the Australian Government - and contains the following text

Deborah blew the whistle on major corruption within the ranks of the NSW Police Force during the 1990’s. Her perseverance in going public with her allegations of widespread corruption ultimately helped bring about the establishment of the Wood Royal Commission which lead to wide ranging reforms to the brotherhood.

and

http://www1.oecd.org/daf/asiacom/countries/australia.htm

Lists all the institutions in Australia that are set up to stop corruption.


And this has me totally puzzled

http://www.abc.net.au/worldtoday/content/2004/s1074661.htm

Mr Costigan actually agrees we belong in the lowest echelon of corrupt nations

Australia has just been placed at the top of an international index of bribe-paying countries

then explains what this means

In fact, it's the exact reverse of what you might think when you look at it. It's the best people who are at the top, and the biggest bribe-payers at the bottom. So I can understand people being confused at first sight, but Australia rates very well, indeed it rates the best in the world at not paying bribes.

Now back to the Aborginal question - How much Aborginal blood has been spilt since we became a nation in 1901?

And I am really curious exactly what freedoms I am going to loose under a world government???????

You don't seem to get it. Just because Australia is less corrupt than most other nations doesn't mean there is no corruption. If there was no corruption, then there wouldn't need to be institutions to stop it.

The piece that had you puzzled was a piece I shared which was positive about Australia, showing that I am not all one sided and I am willing to be positive when being poisitve is justified. Australia has done a lot to fight corruption and for that I applaud them, but they are not pure and inncocent.

I do not know how much Aboriginal blood has been spilt since 1901, but I would guess not a lot, but really, is this what you consider the birthdate of your government?

If yes, then fine, but it is not very realistic.

As to the freedoms you will loose under one world government, the answer is you will loose none, only because you and I will not live long enough to see world government. The generations that do live to see world government will have their lives planned out for them from cradle to grave. They will be told where they can go to school, what jobs they can do, where they can live and almost every aspect of their life will be more or less controlled, with very limited choices.

As former Security Advisor to President Carter and founding member of the Trilateral Commission, Zbigniew Brzezinski, once said........

"Another threat, [along with black militancy and violent elements of the New Left] less overt but no less basic, confronts liberal democracy. More directly linked to the impact of technology, it involves the gradual appearance of a more controlled and directed society. Such a society would be dominated by an elite whose claim to political power would rest on allegedly superior scientific know-how. Unhindered by the restraints of traditional liberal values, this elite would not hesitate to achieve its political ends by using the latest modern techniques for influencing public behavior and keeping society under close surveillance and control. Under such circumstances, the scientific and technological momentum of the country would not be reversed but would actually feed on the situation it exploits…

Persisting social crisis, the emergence of a charismatic personality, and the exploitation of mass media to obtain public confidence would be the steppingstones in the piecemeal transformation of the Untied States into a highly controlled society."



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