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FCTE



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Posted: Sun Jul 02, 2006 1:38 am    Post subject:  

LetsGetReal wrote: Should I just reboot? I'm sick of this and don't really care I'll transfer all my files I want to this comp...

Looks like you're at that point. Get the disk. :lol:
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LetsGetReal



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Posted: Sun Jul 02, 2006 1:41 am    Post subject:  

Is it hard? PC's is one of the subjects I lack extensive knowledge on...
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FCTE



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Posted: Sun Jul 02, 2006 1:46 am    Post subject:  

LetsGetReal wrote: Is it hard? PC's is one of the subjects I lack extensive knowledge on...

Make sure you have all the driver disks and program disks and a lot of time or else you're screwed.
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Pzatchok



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Posted: Sun Jul 02, 2006 1:52 am    Post subject:  

Copy EVERYTHING you don't want to loose to a good disk.

If you have the actual XP disk, I think it will walk you through a reinstall that will keep all your old drivers and settings. Please don't quote me on that one yet.
I'm checking now.
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Pzatchok



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Posted: Sun Jul 02, 2006 1:55 am    Post subject:  

There is a repair feature during the start of the install. It might work. You might want to try that first.
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FCTE



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Posted: Sun Jul 02, 2006 1:56 am    Post subject:  

A fresh install would probably be better, otherwise it could keep the problem files too. That would blow majorly.
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Pzatchok



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Posted: Sun Jul 02, 2006 2:06 am    Post subject:  

FCTE wrote: A fresh install would probably be better, otherwise it could keep the problem files too. That would blow majorly.

Thats true that it could keep corrupted virus files. But I was thinking along the lines of a hard drive going funky. Reinstalling the OS only might clear it up relatively fast and easy.

A total reinstall is long and a final act.

LetsGetReal. Just tell us what your going to do and we will try to help out.
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FCTE



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Posted: Sun Jul 02, 2006 2:10 am    Post subject:  

Pzatchok wrote: FCTE wrote: A fresh install would probably be better, otherwise it could keep the problem files too. That would blow majorly.

Thats true that it could keep corrupted virus files. But I was thinking along the lines of a hard drive going funky. Reinstalling the OS only might clear it up relatively fast and easy.

A total reinstall is long and a final act.

LetsGetReal. Just tell us what your going to do and we will try to help out.

If it's been a long time since formatting, a good reformat would be healthy for the hard drive to realign the tracks with the read heads and all. I usually do a reformat every year. I'm off on a mission for sliders from White Castle. :)
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Pzatchok



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Posted: Sun Jul 02, 2006 2:11 am    Post subject:  

Bring me a dozen.
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Pzatchok



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Posted: Sun Jul 02, 2006 2:20 am    Post subject:  

I just did one so..

For a quick reinstall of XP right over the old copy of XP without changing or loosing anything

Insert the cd rom.
Reboot to the cdrom.
When asked if you want to boot from the cd say yes (hit any key)
follow along untill it asks if you want to repair on old xp. Hit the 'r' button for repair at that time.
Follow along and when it reboots let it boot to the hard drive. Don't touch anything else yet.
Follow along.
It should reboot again and like last time just let it boot to the hard drive.
It should have a running system again without loosing anything.

If that didn't fix it then more drastic measures are needed and a total reformat and reinstall in probably in order.

Good luck and don't freak out yet.
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LetsGetReal



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Posted: Sun Jul 02, 2006 1:13 pm    Post subject:  

Could a system restore work?
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FCTE



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Posted: Sun Jul 02, 2006 1:14 pm    Post subject:  

LetsGetReal wrote: Could a system restore work?

You could try it, it might not revert MS Office files though.
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LetsGetReal



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Posted: Sun Jul 02, 2006 1:18 pm    Post subject:  

Will it erase files? Like documents or things of that sort...
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David



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Posted: Sun Jul 02, 2006 3:58 pm    Post subject:  

Documents ,No but newly installed programs, Yes.That's what System Restore is for.If you have a program go bad or a bad program install itself you (in Theory) can get rid of it or repair it by Restore to a point where things were working correctly.The latest spyware and Virii also now place themselves into the restore back up so it's possible a revert will be a waste of time.It just depends on what is causing the trouble.
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FCTE



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Posted: Sun Jul 02, 2006 4:03 pm    Post subject:  

Your Office was installed way longer than the System Restore goes back to, but it may revert the files that are messed up fixing the problem, or it may do nothing at all.
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David



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Posted: Sun Jul 02, 2006 4:11 pm    Post subject:  

Wikipedia wrote: System Restore is a component of Microsoft's Windows Me and Windows XP operating systems that allows for the rolling back of system files, registry keys, installed programs, etc., to a previous state in the event of a failure.

In Windows Vista, System Restore has been renamed to System Protection, and features an improved interface.


Overview


System Restore is accessed via the Start menu, in Start -> All Programs -> Accessories -> System Tools -> System Restore. From there, the user may either create a new restore point manually, roll back to an existing restore point, or change the System Restore configuration.

System Restore does not affect any of the user's files. Files with certain executable extensions are restored and new folders removed, but items in the My Documents folders are always left untouched. Microsoft recommends that if a user is unsure as to whether their files will be affected by System Restore, that they should keep those files under My Documents.

New Restore points are automatically created:

* when a piece of software is installed
* when Windows Update installs new updates to Windows
* when the user installs a driver that is not digitally signed by Windows Hardware Quality Labs
* every 24 hours of computer use (10 hours in Windows ME), or every 24 hours of calendar time, whichever happens first
* when the computer boots after being off for more than 24 hours
* when the user requests it

System Restore can be configured to use up to a maximum of 12% of hard drive space. Old restore points are discarded in order to keep drive usage within the specified amount. For many users, this can provide restore points covering the past several weeks. Users concerned with performance or space usage can also opt to disable System Restore entirely.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/System_Restore
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FCTE



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Posted: Sun Jul 02, 2006 6:47 pm    Post subject:  

David wrote: Wikipedia wrote: System Restore is a component of Microsoft's Windows Me and Windows XP operating systems that allows for the rolling back of system files, registry keys, installed programs, etc., to a previous state in the event of a failure.

In Windows Vista, System Restore has been renamed to System Protection, and features an improved interface.


Overview


System Restore is accessed via the Start menu, in Start -> All Programs -> Accessories -> System Tools -> System Restore. From there, the user may either create a new restore point manually, roll back to an existing restore point, or change the System Restore configuration.

System Restore does not affect any of the user's files. Files with certain executable extensions are restored and new folders removed, but items in the My Documents folders are always left untouched. Microsoft recommends that if a user is unsure as to whether their files will be affected by System Restore, that they should keep those files under My Documents.

New Restore points are automatically created:

* when a piece of software is installed
* when Windows Update installs new updates to Windows
* when the user installs a driver that is not digitally signed by Windows Hardware Quality Labs
* every 24 hours of computer use (10 hours in Windows ME), or every 24 hours of calendar time, whichever happens first
* when the computer boots after being off for more than 24 hours
* when the user requests it

System Restore can be configured to use up to a maximum of 12% of hard drive space. Old restore points are discarded in order to keep drive usage within the specified amount. For many users, this can provide restore points covering the past several weeks. Users concerned with performance or space usage can also opt to disable System Restore entirely.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/System_Restore

No one is talking about document files, were talking about the corrupt MS Office files that are problematic.
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Pzatchok



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Posted: Sun Jul 02, 2006 7:01 pm    Post subject:  

If it turns out to just be MS office thats screwed up then an uninstall and reinstall should fix it. It should keep all old documents and settings after the uninstall.
MS is just that way.
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FCTE



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Posted: Sun Jul 02, 2006 8:41 pm    Post subject:  

Pzatchok wrote: If it turns out to just be MS office thats screwed up then an uninstall and reinstall should fix it. It should keep all old documents and settings after the uninstall.
MS is just that way.

I read a few forums and it said that file was not fixed with an uninstall/reinstall.....and they never found a solution. :(

If it were me, I'd just do a full reformat.

What version of office is this? If you're using Office 97 with XP there have been many issues between the two.
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LetsGetReal



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Posted: Sun Jul 02, 2006 8:53 pm    Post subject:  

If I uninstall Office will that delete all my word documents?
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