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DSwain



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Posted: Sat Jul 01, 2006 5:53 pm    Post subject: Police: how you can steal a motorbike and get away with it  

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/england/gloucestershire/5132370.stm

The health and safety culture of minimal risk rears its silly head once again.

I wonder if this can be extrapolated?
Car thieves not wearing seatbelts could sue police if injured in a car chase; armed robbers could sue police if not wearing body armour and they're shot by firearms officers.
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Lord Hargreaves



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Posted: Sat Jul 01, 2006 6:13 pm    Post subject:  

I've come to the conclusion that there really is no such thing as "right wing satire". Conservatives dream up lots of ludicrous ideas for future scenarios resulting from the Left wing mindset, usually while laughing and joking among themselves, perhaps over breakfast or down the local. Then, 10 years down the line, satire becomes reality as the Left actually goes and does these things.
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Ssushi



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Posted: Mon Jul 03, 2006 5:44 am    Post subject:  

Lord Hargreaves wrote: I've come to the conclusion that there really is no such thing as "right wing satire". Conservatives dream up lots of ludicrous ideas for future scenarios resulting from the Left wing mindset, usually while laughing and joking among themselves, perhaps over breakfast or down the local. Then, 10 years down the line, satire becomes reality as the Left actually goes and does these things.

It's not just the left who's to blame. This type of policy has been an issue in Britain for decades now, no party has addressed it.

When was it decided that wearing a turban was considered to be a suitable alternative to wearing a crash helmet on a motorbike? It's doesn't matter who allowed the law, all parties could have stopped it...
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Lord Hargreaves



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Posted: Mon Jul 03, 2006 7:26 am    Post subject:  

Ssushi wrote: Lord Hargreaves wrote: I've come to the conclusion that there really is no such thing as "right wing satire". Conservatives dream up lots of ludicrous ideas for future scenarios resulting from the Left wing mindset, usually while laughing and joking among themselves, perhaps over breakfast or down the local. Then, 10 years down the line, satire becomes reality as the Left actually goes and does these things.

It's not just the left who's to blame. This type of policy has been an issue in Britain for decades now, no party has addressed it.

When was it decided that wearing a turban was considered to be a suitable alternative to wearing a crash helmet on a motorbike? It's doesn't matter who allowed the law, all parties could have stopped it...

Personally I agree with that law. The issue there is not whether we should be allowed to wear turbans instead of crash helmets, but why we should have to wear crash helmets at all. Its no ones business what wild and wacky headgear you decide to don at 70 mph
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Ssushi



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Posted: Mon Jul 03, 2006 8:13 am    Post subject:  

Lord Hargreaves wrote: Ssushi wrote: Lord Hargreaves wrote: I've come to the conclusion that there really is no such thing as "right wing satire". Conservatives dream up lots of ludicrous ideas for future scenarios resulting from the Left wing mindset, usually while laughing and joking among themselves, perhaps over breakfast or down the local. Then, 10 years down the line, satire becomes reality as the Left actually goes and does these things.

It's not just the left who's to blame. This type of policy has been an issue in Britain for decades now, no party has addressed it.

When was it decided that wearing a turban was considered to be a suitable alternative to wearing a crash helmet on a motorbike? It's doesn't matter who allowed the law, all parties could have stopped it...

Personally I agree with that law. The issue there is not whether we should be allowed to wear turbans instead of crash helmets, but why we should have to wear crash helmets at all. Its no ones business what wild and wacky headgear you decide to don at 70 mph

Regardless of where or not we agree with the law - it should be one rule for everyone! Making exceptions based on religious persuasion is nonsense!
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Lord Hargreaves



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Posted: Mon Jul 03, 2006 8:55 am    Post subject:  

Ssushi wrote: Lord Hargreaves wrote: Ssushi wrote: Lord Hargreaves wrote: I've come to the conclusion that there really is no such thing as "right wing satire". Conservatives dream up lots of ludicrous ideas for future scenarios resulting from the Left wing mindset, usually while laughing and joking among themselves, perhaps over breakfast or down the local. Then, 10 years down the line, satire becomes reality as the Left actually goes and does these things.

It's not just the left who's to blame. This type of policy has been an issue in Britain for decades now, no party has addressed it.

When was it decided that wearing a turban was considered to be a suitable alternative to wearing a crash helmet on a motorbike? It's doesn't matter who allowed the law, all parties could have stopped it...

Personally I agree with that law. The issue there is not whether we should be allowed to wear turbans instead of crash helmets, but why we should have to wear crash helmets at all. Its no ones business what wild and wacky headgear you decide to don at 70 mph

Regardless of where or not we agree with the law - it should be one rule for everyone! Making exceptions based on religious persuasion is nonsense!

Is it me or do I remember an episode of Only Fools and Horses where Del Boy tries to come up with a solution to this problem? :lol:
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Robin Hood



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Posted: Mon Jul 03, 2006 9:19 am    Post subject:  

Quote: When was it decided that wearing a turban was considered to be a suitable alternative to wearing a crash helmet on a motorbike? It's doesn't matter who allowed the law, all parties could have stopped it...

Awesome! One can wear a turban instead? Ridiculous that one should be required to wear a helmet, but at least I have a get-out clause. Do you know how they define turban? Or where I can buy the least turbanny turban available?
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DSwain



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Posted: Mon Jul 03, 2006 10:20 am    Post subject:  

Robin Hood wrote: Quote: When was it decided that wearing a turban was considered to be a suitable alternative to wearing a crash helmet on a motorbike? It's doesn't matter who allowed the law, all parties could have stopped it...

Awesome! One can wear a turban instead? Ridiculous that one should be required to wear a helmet, but at least I have a get-out clause. Do you know how they define turban? Or where I can buy the least turbanny turban available?

Surely the turban has to be able to sustain a certain amount of shock, PSI, all that sort of thing - I think we should be told........Or perhaps I can just wear a knotted handkerchief?

I remember visiting Italy in the late 80s and seeing these ridiculously cool Italian youths gadding about on their Vespas, not a stitch of protective headgear in sight except for long, thick hair blowing in the breeze; so I get back to the UK and immediately buy a Vespa; it lost a lot of its allure by having to wear that crash helmet.
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Robin Hood



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Posted: Mon Jul 03, 2006 3:26 pm    Post subject:  

My firend, who's Sikh, sometimes something that looks suspiciously similar to a bandanna. Not that I want to look like some hoary old biker, but perhaps I could get away with that?
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cap'n queasy



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Posted: Mon Jul 03, 2006 3:28 pm    Post subject:  

Lord Hargreaves wrote: I've come to the conclusion that there really is no such thing as "right wing satire". Conservatives dream up lots of ludicrous ideas for future scenarios resulting from the Left wing mindset, usually while laughing and joking among themselves, perhaps over breakfast or down the local. Then, 10 years down the line, satire becomes reality as the Left actually goes and does these things.

:lol:

So true.
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DSwain



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Posted: Mon Jul 03, 2006 3:30 pm    Post subject:  

Robin Hood wrote: My firend, who's Sikh, sometimes something that looks suspiciously similar to a bandanna. Not that I want to look like some hoary old biker, but perhaps I could get away with that?

Go for it - and if the Old Bill tries anything, slap the Human Rights Act on them.....
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Flash



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Posted: Fri Jul 14, 2006 4:54 am    Post subject:  

WTF is this country coming too!? +p :cry:

They STOLE a moped!!!! They shouldn't have the RIGHT to sue police if they're injured whilst trying to get away, let alone probably pull it off! They were breaking the law and obstructing the path of justice by running!!

I give up on this country and it's current laughing stock government.
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