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Aqualung
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| Posted: Mon Jun 26, 2006 2:37 pm Post subject: Buying a rifle |
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| What sorts of things are good qualities in a rifle? What sort of things are bad qualities? I'm looking to buy one, and I don't really know exactly what I'm looking for... |
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Wolverine
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| Posted: Mon Jun 26, 2006 2:48 pm Post subject: Re: Buying a rifle |
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CrossEyedMary wrote: What sorts of things are good qualities in a rifle? What sort of things are bad qualities? I'm looking to buy one, and I don't really know exactly what I'm looking for...
There are many to choose from, what do you want in a rifle? |
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Reverend_HellH0und
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| Posted: Mon Jun 26, 2006 3:13 pm Post subject: Re: Buying a rifle |
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CrossEyedMary wrote: What sorts of things are good qualities in a rifle? What sort of things are bad qualities? I'm looking to buy one, and I don't really know exactly what I'm looking for...
What are you planning to do with it?
Are you looking to plink? Self defense? hunt? it all depends on what you are looking for. |
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Knight
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| Posted: Mon Jun 26, 2006 3:13 pm Post subject: Re: Buying a rifle |
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Wolverine wrote: CrossEyedMary wrote: What sorts of things are good qualities in a rifle? What sort of things are bad qualities? I'm looking to buy one, and I don't really know exactly what I'm looking for...
There are many to choose from, what do you want in a rifle?
Also, what will you be using it for? (i.e., hunting, personal protection, plinking around, etc.) |
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Aqualung
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| Posted: Mon Jun 26, 2006 3:30 pm Post subject: |
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| :lol: You guys ask the hard questions. I'd say, I want it for something that I could theoretically hunt with, but it will probably end up being something I just go target shooting with (since I don't really have a hunting-type family). Something that's really good with distances (I'm big into distance shooting, if that's what it's called), not too heavy. Something that I could mount a scope on if I so desired. |
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Reverend_HellH0und
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CrossEyedMary wrote: :lol: You guys ask the hard questions. I'd say, I want it for something that I could theoretically hunt with, but it will probably end up being something I just go target shooting with (since I don't really have a hunting-type family). Something that's really good with distances (I'm big into distance shooting, if that's what it's called), not too heavy. Something that I could mount a scope on if I so desired.
What you are asking for is more than one rifle... Couple more questions.
What "distances" are you talking about? 1000 yards? 500? 200? it all depends.
Semi-auto or bolt action?
What theoretically would you be hunting?
We are narrowing it down here.... :wink: |
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Aqualung
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| Posted: Mon Jun 26, 2006 3:43 pm Post subject: |
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Reverend_HellH0und wrote: What you are asking for is more than one rifle...
More than one! :lol: I knew I was stupid about guns.
Quote: What "distances" are you talking about? 1000 yards? 500? 200? it all depends.
Well, hmmm... I don't know. I guess it would depend on cost for that one.
Quote: Semi-auto or bolt action?
Doesn't matter.
Quote: What theoretically would you be hunting?
Ummm... :shifty: Cougars.
Quote: We are narrowing it down here.... :wink:
Thanks for taking the time to help somebody who has never bought or shot a rifle before. :lol: |
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Reverend_HellH0und
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CrossEyedMary wrote: Reverend_HellH0und wrote: What you are asking for is more than one rifle...
More than one! :lol: I knew I was stupid about guns.
Quote: What "distances" are you talking about? 1000 yards? 500? 200? it all depends.
Well, hmmm... I don't know. I guess it would depend on cost for that one.
Quote: Semi-auto or bolt action?
Doesn't matter.
Quote: What theoretically would you be hunting?
Ummm... :shifty: Cougars.
Quote: We are narrowing it down here.... :wink:
Thanks for taking the time to help somebody who has never bought or shot a rifle before. :lol:
Well if you never shot a rifle before I would reccommend a Marlin 60.
http://www.marlinfirearms.com/Firearms/SelfLoading/60SS.aspx
Its a .22lr. It is top quality, inexpensive, ammo is cheap, and accurate. You can add on a scope if you desire (inexpensive too for .22) and when or if you out grow it it holds its value.
Won't kill cougars but you can piss em off....
Its a good 1st platform to get into shooring with. |
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Aqualung
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| Ok, cool, thanks for the recommend. |
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Reverend_HellH0und
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| Posted: Mon Jun 26, 2006 4:05 pm Post subject: |
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| No problem I am glad to help. Feel free to post more or PM me if you have any other questions. |
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Aqualung
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Reverend_HellH0und wrote: No problem I am glad to help. Feel free to post more or PM me if you have any other questions.
What sort of range does that one have?
And, how does the weight of that one compare with the weights of other rifles? Is it light? Average? |
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Winchester
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CrossEyedMary wrote: Reverend_HellH0und wrote: No problem I am glad to help. Feel free to post more or PM me if you have any other questions.
What sort of range does that one have?
And, how does the weight of that one compare with the weights of other rifles? Is it light? Average?
I'll answer and give another suggestion.
First .22 are generally light rifles. As far as range your not going to be long distance shooting with any accuracy with a .22 I'd say 100yds max, but that being said my sons and I like seeing who can ding the steel plates (about 12" square) the most times out at 200 yds.
Second, Marlin is a good choice but I would probably recommend their bolt action to a new shooter. My oldest son has one, very accurate and excellent value for the money. My youngest wanted a lever action so he got a Henry.
Here's the Marlin I would recommend.
Marlin Bolt Action
If you do want to go the semi-auto route, get a Ruger 10/22, boat loads of after-market stuff you can get so you can customize it to your hearts desire.
Here's the 10/22
Ruger 10/22 |
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Reverend_HellH0und
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Winchester has answered all the questions. I was gonna say 150 meters before the "drop" becomes too much to compensate for.
Bolt action Vs. Semi-auto is a preference. Me personally I prefer a semi auto. Once you get into long range stuff a bolt action can be (and often is) more acurate then a semi. But most of us never reach that level of accuracy anyway...... :wink: |
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Aqualung
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Why is bolt action superior? Does it have to do with how hard you have to squeeze to get the round off (I ask because I shot a revolver, where you could either **** the hammer back and shoot, or just shoot it, and it was a lot tougher to just squeeze and really brought down accuracy, but I don't know if it's the same concept with bolt action vs semi auto)?
Oh, and how much should that cost? (I don't want to get cheated or anything.) |
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Reverend_HellH0und
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CrossEyedMary wrote: Why is bolt action superior? Does it have to do with how hard you have to squeeze to get the round off (I ask because I shot a revolver, where you could either **** the hammer back and shoot, or just shoot it, and it was a lot tougher to just squeeze and really brought down accuracy, but I don't know if it's the same concept with bolt action vs semi auto)?
Oh, and how much should that cost? (I don't want to get cheated or anything.)
No you are talking about Double action vs. single action and trigger pull.
Bolt action you have to operate the bolt between each shot to load a new round, with a semi auto it automatically chambers the next round.
Price new under 300 for the SS model. YOu could prolly find a used one for around $100.... |
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Aqualung
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Reverend_HellH0und wrote: No you are talking about Double action vs. single action and trigger pull.
Oh yeah! I remember that now. Hehe. :shifty:
Quote: Price new under 300 for the SS model. YOu could prolly find a used one for around $100....
Okay, thanks. |
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Reverend_HellH0und wrote: CrossEyedMary wrote: Reverend_HellH0und wrote: What you are asking for is more than one rifle...
More than one! :lol: I knew I was stupid about guns.
Quote: What "distances" are you talking about? 1000 yards? 500? 200? it all depends.
Well, hmmm... I don't know. I guess it would depend on cost for that one.
Quote: Semi-auto or bolt action?
Doesn't matter.
Quote: What theoretically would you be hunting?
Ummm... :shifty: Cougars.
Quote: We are narrowing it down here.... :wink:
Thanks for taking the time to help somebody who has never bought or shot a rifle before. :lol:
Well if you never shot a rifle before I would reccommend a Marlin 60.
http://www.marlinfirearms.com/Firearms/SelfLoading/60SS.aspx
Its a .22lr. It is top quality, inexpensive, ammo is cheap, and accurate. You can add on a scope if you desire (inexpensive too for .22) and when or if you out grow it it holds its value.
Won't kill cougars but you can piss em off....
Its a good 1st platform to get into shooring with. I would suggest the same gun. I bought mine in 1987 at K mart for $59, and have put thousands of rounds through it with zero problems. Great starter rifle. |
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Aqualung
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| Wow, that's cheap. I wonder what the K Mart price is nowadays... |
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| Posted: Mon Jun 26, 2006 7:30 pm Post subject: |
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| CrossEyedMary wrote: Wow, that's cheap. I wonder what the K Mart price is nowadays... Around $ 150 I think. Maybe a bit less. |
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