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King of Antarctica · Joined: 12 Jun 2006 Posts: 15 Location: Lawton

think about were do dinosaurs and colored people people fit into the bible?

superskippy · Joined: 14 Jul 2005 Posts: 8608 Location: Petah Tikva

Quote: think about were do dinosaurs and colored people people fit into the bible?

Get this out of the History Forum. Take it to the explicitly listed Religion forum.

bigstick61 · Posted: Mon Jun 12, 2006 7:48 pm Post subject:

They don't have a place in the bible, because they are irrelevant to the message which is at the heart of the bible, and the historical part, which covers the history of Israel as well as the early history of man, represented mostly in an allegorical form. There's no point to putting dinosaurs in, and specific races are usually not mentioned, as there was no reason. Seeing that most of the characters in the bible are from the Middle East or Africa, there's no reason to specifically mention negroes or other colored people. To do so really makes no sense at all.

King of Antarctica · Joined: 12 Jun 2006 Posts: 15 Location: Lawton

yes but adam and eve suposed are white and the first to humans on earth right? how do they change color? and i belvie that dinasors artmentioned beacuse they didnt now about them and the write could not lay it in

PS how do i pot it in the relgius

bigstick61 · Posted: Mon Jun 12, 2006 9:49 pm Post subject:

Nobody ever said that Adam and Eve were white. They were probably a light tan color judging from the fact that the Garden of Eden as described is in present-day Iraq. The bible doesn't mention their color. I think you're confusing old paintings and popular conceptions with the bible. Dinosaurs are completely irrelevant to the bible, and it is likely that the writers didn't know about them, although it is possible they did, since dinosaur bones had been discovered even then and earlier.

thefranzkafkafront · Posted: Tue Jun 13, 2006 6:18 am Post subject:

Well jesus said roughly nothing on politics.

toddytodd · Joined: 20 May 2006 Posts: 2736

King of Antarctica wrote: think about were do dinosaurs and colored people people fit into the bible?

Some historians believe that Jesus' teachings were very political for the time. One example that immediately comes to mind is the money changers in the temple. Many religious teachings say Jesus was mad that people were selling in God's house. That may very well be true. However, many historians see it as a political stance of the gov't taxing the poor too much (greed).
About the 'colored people', as stated earlier, the assumption is that Adam and Eve were white. There is no proof of this. Why would it matter one way or the other?
About the dinosaurs. Many people point to the fact that the bible doesn't mention dinosaurs specifically as proof that it is fake or untrue. While I don't recall it mentioning dinosaurs specifically, I do recall it mentioning creatures that could be accepted as dinosaurs or dinosaur-like. Regardless, the bible doesn't mention airplane, computers, cars, Chris Columbus discovering the new world, Joan of Arc, etc. The point is the bible is not a science book nor is it an accurate history book. It is a series of stories that are put together to prove a point, nothing more.
At least this is the way I see it.

feederband · Joined: 26 Jan 2006 Posts: 4146 Location: Florida

To have the dinos in the bible would just mess everything up...

First the questions would be why did he make them first because we know they were here way before man....

Second why did he let them rule for so long we know they were here for a very long time mostly unchallanged by nature...

Third why did he kill them off...These thing did not get wiped out by us like most thing nowadays do...

The dinos make no since to be in any religious text because they alone controlled the planet for a very long time without us here...

Carlin · Posted: Tue Jun 13, 2006 12:12 pm Post subject:

people, there is a very simple explanation for all of this: there is no God.

Hope that clears everything up. :wink:

perdidochas · Joined: 06 Mar 2006 Posts: 15424 Location: Florida

King of Antarctica wrote: think about were do dinosaurs and colored people people fit into the bible?

Well, dinosaurs don't. Colored people are descendants of Noah, just like white people.

perdidochas · Joined: 06 Mar 2006 Posts: 15424 Location: Florida

King of Antarctica wrote: yes but adam and eve suposed are white and the first to humans on earth right? how do they change color?

Who says that Adam and Eve are white? I've always thought they were brown. Humans are genetically variable. SOme of Adam and Eve's descendants got darker (mutations and variablity) others got lighter.

King of Antarctica wrote: and i belvie that dinasors artmentioned beacuse they didnt now about them and the write could not lay it in

PS how do i pot it in the relgius

Dinosaurs predate the Bible.

Carlin · Posted: Tue Jun 13, 2006 12:23 pm Post subject:

Adam and Eve were made up too.

feederband · Joined: 26 Jan 2006 Posts: 4146 Location: Florida

perdidochas wrote: Dinosaurs predate the Bible.

Predate humans altogether..

feederband · Joined: 26 Jan 2006 Posts: 4146 Location: Florida

Carlin wrote: people, there is a very simple explanation for all of this: there is no God.

Hope that clears everything up. :wink:

No real gods anyway...There are a few made up gods but people fight over which one is less made up...Why they play with them some of us are searching for the real truth whatever that may be....

feederband · Joined: 26 Jan 2006 Posts: 4146 Location: Florida

Carlin wrote: Adam and Eve were made up too.

Yes back in the day of early humans I doubt the words Adam and Eve we part of their vocabulary....

wormwood · Joined: 24 Sep 2005 Posts: 2670 Location: The P-Brane

Quote: Nobody ever said that Adam and Eve were white. They were probably a light tan color judging from the fact that the Garden of Eden as described is in present-day Iraq. Also, Moses is described as having feet of bronze, which could be a metaphor or a color reference.

Quote: First the questions would be why did he make them first because we know they were here way before man.... Counter question: how is that important? He made "angels" before us as well...I think I am missing your point.

Quote: Second why did he let them rule for so long we know they were here for a very long time mostly unchallanged by nature... Again, what difference does it make? Also, do you have a pet?

wormwood · Joined: 24 Sep 2005 Posts: 2670 Location: The P-Brane

Quote: Yes back in the day of early humans I doubt the words Adam and Eve we part of their vocabulary.... You're right. In the first written records (Sumerian clay tablets) the name was Adopa and his wife's name was not mentioned.

toddytodd · Joined: 20 May 2006 Posts: 2736

perdidochas wrote:

Dinosaurs predate the Bible.

The creation of the world prdates the bible, but it is still mentioned

Enoch · Joined: 29 Aug 2005 Posts: 9371

feederband wrote: Carlin wrote: people, there is a very simple explanation for all of this: there is no God.

Hope that clears everything up. :wink:

No real gods anyway...There are a few made up gods but people fight over which one is less made up...Why they play with them some of us are searching for the real truth whatever that may be.... And you think that religious people aren't searching for the truth?

JoeTzu · Joined: 03 Feb 2005 Posts: 155 Location: In your head man.

King of Antarctica wrote: think about were do dinosaurs and colored people people fit into the bible?

I wish there was a third option, also the most intelligent answer. "I do not know and neither do you"

Also get a clue we are all 'colored'. If you mean other than white, you must have had a better upbringing than that.