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[Jungle Jim]

The USA has the most hegemony, therefore making it the greatest country in the world. Enough said.

[Tingeling]

Ok.

[Magorion]

Jungle Jim wrote: The USA has the most hegemony, therefore making it the greatest country in the world. Enough said.

Umm, no.

[Claudia Schiffer]

MasturDebater wrote: We have the most freedoms, the most power, the most military, the biggest land mass. We also have the highest average IQs and our cars are better for the environment.

This is why America should rule the world. Because we are the best. Maybe if these communist countries stop killing our soldiers and blowing themselves up we can get some stuff done but we have to finish the job in Iraq or freedom won't prevail.

many people might not like us taking them over but it is best for them in the long run jebronees.

And this is why people hate you, this superior mentality. It's ridiculus.

Oh! and BTW i don't hate you, i feel for you cause you've been brainwash. It's not your fault...As for me. My country is hearth, and it's the best. :wink:

[Perpetual Futility]

WE are a militaristic nation. Thats where we reap our greatest bragging rights. In a conventional war we can dominate any other nation. Now we began to recieve this most recent god complex from the World Wars. If anyone has ever been in a school beyond their 7th grade year you know how these came out for us. Not only that but we are an economic super power. We used to be an industrial superpower but we have worked beyond that. WE are now a service economy meaning we now rely on imports. Other nations that export to us recieve large amounts of capitol. if someone were to withdraw exortation to our nation they would recieve a massive economic downset. An example of this happened during the late sixties and in the early seventies when various middle east nations cut off alot of oil exportation. Hurt us but after awhile we adapted and ended up really damaging their economy. But like it was mentioned earlier Rome fell and so will we. I mean look at all this government corruption. For example when Paul Bremer handed over Iraq to the Iraqi prime minister a huge chunk of money just "disappeared". And look at the Duke Ellington Case. WE are showing signs of deterioration. Not only that but our conservative held government is beginning to pass laws similar to a feudal government almost. Give money to the upper class and let them rule. The lack of governing is apparent from reaction to Katrina and other disasters. No effort was made to work on it until it happened. These things are possible and just now when its happening people are like Oh wow i didnt know this would happen!? WE are a reactive government that is going to keep running into problems and in the end not work anymore either ending in disaster (depression or war) or in revolution.

[LostSoul3412]

Jungle Jim wrote: The USA has the most hegemony, therefore making it the greatest country in the world. Enough said.

:rotf:

That's classic, but it's in the wrong forum. Try the "Political Humor" section.

[larryau]

MasturDebater wrote: We have the most freedoms, the most power, the most military, the biggest land mass. We also have the highest average IQs and our cars are better for the environment.

This is why America should rule the world. Because we are the best. Maybe if these communist countries stop killing our soldiers and blowing themselves up we can get some stuff done but we have to finish the job in Iraq or freedom won't prevail.

many people might not like us taking them over but it is best for them in the long run jebronees.

Wtf. You really have problems to think like this.

Lol, like fourty percent of all high schoolers in the states don't even know who the first president of the United States is (LINCOLN DUH :P). And CARS BEING THE MOST ENVIROMENTALLY FRIENDLY? Gosh. SUVs = Enviromentally friendly, looks fairly imbalanced to me.

And wtf do you mean by 'these communist countries'... if you're referring to England, France, or even the largest group of communist countries in the world - UN.... wow.

AND FINALLY. THE US DOES NOT HAVE THE BIGGEST LAND MASS. Its only ranked number 3 in the list. Russia (1), and Canada (2).

Tsk. Tsk. I can't really imagine that i'm reading this on the PC forums.

[norulers]

The posts in this thread is too lame to address for the most part.

America is not only the biggest threat and terrorist in the world it is like a parasite sucking the life blood from the earths' resources. The USA has been in the business of empire expansion, colonialization, genecide, land grabbing and exploitation of earth and humanity since its' conception. What the US did to natives in this country continue where ever the US has foreighn interest.

The US is guilty of suppying ruthless dictatorships with military training, tactics in torture and military supplies without congresses permission. It has ousted ligitimate democraticly elected officials replacing them with tyrannical regimes, in South America, to be able to extract the earths' resources for the corporations. This is not a matter of a few isolated incidences but a ongoing standard procedure for procuring profits.

US foreighn policies are despicable and has caused people of other countries to facilitate guerrilla warfare and terrorist attacts against our people. The US also has caused Americans citizens touring other countries to be dispised and subjected to unfriendly treatment.

Time for Americans to wise up, get informed, take action and take some resposibility instead of propetuating more of the same by blind patriotism and other such sentimental hog wash.

[thehollowman]

norulers wrote: The posts in this thread is too lame to address for the most part...

Then why are you answering?

Quote: America is not only the biggest threat and terrorist in the world it is like a parasite sucking the life blood from the earths' resources. The USA has been in the business of empire expansion, colonization, genocide, land grabbing and exploitation of earth and humanity since its' conception. What the US did to natives in this country continue where ever the US has foreign interest.

Did someone say "China"?

The most common threads of history that deal with empires shows us how one can rise up from a group of thinkers, create a vast empire that lasts for a "golden age". And then it crumbles through a revolution that births another empire. We will call it the "Empire Circle". America is still in its golden age but it is getting to the point where it becomes "unstable".

We are clearly divided into two different factions, Conservatives and Liberals, with the luke-warm meddlers jumping in and out of both groups. Something is bound to happen sooner or later that will tear our country apart (i.e. Hillary Clinton becoming President/rights being taken away/...etc)

[norulers]

thehollowman wrote: norulers wrote: The posts in this thread is too lame to address for the most part...

Then why are you answering?

Quote: America is not only the biggest threat and terrorist in the world it is like a parasite sucking the life blood from the earths' resources. The USA has been in the business of empire expansion, colonization, genocide, land grabbing and exploitation of earth and humanity since its' conception. What the US did to natives in this country continue where ever the US has foreign interest.

Did someone say "China"?

The most common threads of history that deal with empires shows us how one can rise up from a group of thinkers, create a vast empire that lasts for a "golden age". And then it crumbles through a revolution that births another empire. We will call it the "Empire Circle". America is still in its golden age but it is getting to the point where it becomes "unstable".

We are clearly divided into two different factions, Conservatives and Liberals, with the luke-warm meddlers jumping in and out of both groups. Something is bound to happen sooner or later that will tear our country apart (i.e. Hillary Clinton becoming President/rights being taken away/...etc)

First off, I responded to the thread not the posts till now. I post in hopes someone might start thinking and feeling. They might come out of apathy and mediocrity. Some might find comfort that they are not alone in their view and it is valid.

Your response to my post was not very informative. It fails to address anything I said. You simply picked out a key word, "Empire" and ran with it. You are talking about a future that will repeat the past in regards to empire. I don't care about this. I was talking about here and now. I was talking about the ruling class elites being murderous thieves.

You say America is "clearly divided into two factions, Conservatives and Liberals,..." I disagree. Democrats and Republicans are two cheeks of the same ass. America does not have two political parties. That's a myth. It only has one political party; the Business Party which has two factions Dems. and Repubs. This is a concise calculated maneuver by the elitist to marginalize and disenfranchise their despised victims; the underprivileged common people.

The "luke warm meddlers" as you refer to them are not harming anything. Why do you berate them? By your berating comment one can make an inference that you have faith in the political process and the doings of the very elitist I condemn. You never addressed this important issue; that I am opposed to all you believe in regarding social construct clearly stated in my previous post.

The status quo is well protected with buffers. Common people are excluded from the political process in any meaningful way. There isn't any thing in the political process that allows for real radical change. Voting is a useless and futile passive activity that changes nothing. It is another device which the elitist implemented to satisfy the otherwise potentially angry mob.

Elitist believe that those who own the country should rule it and those in it. What do you have to say about that. Please don't say that bull s**t cliche; " Those who don't vote can't complain." That is so ignorant. I say; "those who don't fight against their own slavery are cowards, undeserving of liberty and safety. Take action; screw voting.

[Demosthenes_]

I think that everyone here can agree that America is by far not the best country in the world. The question is whether or not there is one best country? No one can say for sure which country is best. Something that I think people overlook is America's potential. If it annexed Canada or Mexico (or both), it would become the largest land mass.

And while it doesn't have the largest military, it has the strongest. On the whole clean car thing... :lol: That's just funny. But America still has potential to be great, but only if it realizes it's problems.

[thehollowman]

norulers wrote: thehollowman wrote: norulers wrote: The posts in this thread is too lame to address for the most part...

Then why are you answering?

Quote: America is not only the biggest threat and terrorist in the world it is like a parasite sucking the life blood from the earths' resources. The USA has been in the business of empire expansion, colonization, genocide, land grabbing and exploitation of earth and humanity since its' conception. What the US did to natives in this country continue where ever the US has foreign interest.

Did someone say "China"?

The most common threads of history that deal with empires shows us how one can rise up from a group of thinkers, create a vast empire that lasts for a "golden age". And then it crumbles through a revolution that births another empire. We will call it the "Empire Circle". America is still in its golden age but it is getting to the point where it becomes "unstable".

We are clearly divided into two different factions, Conservatives and Liberals, with the luke-warm meddlers jumping in and out of both groups. Something is bound to happen sooner or later that will tear our country apart (i.e. Hillary Clinton becoming President/rights being taken away/...etc)

...Your response to my post was not very informative. It fails to address anything I said. You simply picked out a key word, "Empire" and ran with it. ...

I picked that word obviously because that is exactly what America is, an Empire. We Americans belong to an empire that is based upon the principles of the Roman and Greek philosophies and political structure. Our founding fathers were inspired by the ancients to develop our tri-system form of government. Our "Empire" is the compilation of all other empires before us. We have incorporated their ideas, beliefs, symbols, and so much more to become the very foundation of our own civilization.


Quote: ...America does not have two political parties...

That's true, America has three political parties, the Democrats, the Republicans, and the Independents. Each party is further separated into several branches where groups of people with more "extreme" political beliefs have congregated.


Quote: ...This is a concise calculated maneuver by the elitist to marginalize and disenfranchise their despised victims; the underprivileged common people.

These so called "elitist" are not elite in any other factor except for that they hold political power and we (the underprivileged common people according to what you said norulers) don't. As persuasive as your argument is, time and time again we see that it is us, the despised commoners, who voted them into office and gave them that authority over us.


Quote: The "Luke warm meddlers" as you refer to them are not harming anything. Why do you berate them? By your berating comment one can make an inference that you have faith in the political process and the doings of the very elitist I condemn...

Well, our system has been in place for over 2 centuries. Not only has the political process worked, it has expanded and grown better with each passing decade.


Quote: The status quo is well protected with buffers. Common people are excluded from the political process in any meaningful way.

Right, and voting isn't an important political process? The reason we are excluded is because we elect leaders to deal with politics. Most of us don't have time and/or don't want to deal with all the bureaucracy of our government.


Quote: There isn't any thing in the political process that allows for real radical change.

Why would we need to change? I don't see that many reasons why we should even consider changing.


Quote: Voting is a useless and futile passive activity that changes nothing...

Not true, all of our elected officials have to be voted into office. Its hard for me not to go over board and stretch this point to much, but all of our leaders have been voted in by us, the commoners.


Quote: That is so ignorant. I say; "those who don't fight against their own slavery are cowards, undeserving of liberty and safety. Take action; screw voting.

Explain to me norules how NOT voting is taking action. The last time I looked, voting IS the only way to take action.

Your whole post is a mockery of what I, and the rest of any true American stands for, Democracy. It is the one thing that unites every single person in America and gives them the power to choose who they want to lead them. Not only has this system worked, it has become a model for other countries as they try to develop their own democracies. The system is not broken, and it has a long way to go before it is.