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britboy · Joined: 02 Jun 2006 Posts: 3559 Location: London

I do like these little scenarios.

Burgler in your house. You creep downstairs. He's packing a gun.

You CAN get to the front door and run away WITHOUT him even seeing or hearing you. Your family is out of town.

But you reckon you have a fair shot at him, and chances are (as in 90% chance with your aiming) if you wanted to you could paint your front room a new shade of 'burgler brain red'.

You personally, what you gonna do? Fight or flight? With flight - you can call the cops .. who may or may not catch him ...

Wolverine · Joined: 15 Jul 2005 Posts: 10983 Location: Podunk, Colorado

Depends, what gun does he have?

RooK · Joined: 16 Jul 2004 Posts: 2006 Location: SE Kentucky

I vote option three: Retreat back upstairs, call the cops. Then get in a good defensive position and wait for the police.

britboy · Joined: 02 Jun 2006 Posts: 3559 Location: London

Good point .. er (goes surfing to find a suitable firearm!!)

You recognise it .. he has a IMI / Magnum Research Desert Eagle pistol

Type: Single Action
Chambering: .44 Magnum
Cor-bon, .50 AE
Length overall: 10.24 in. - 260mm
Weight: 62 oz. - 1,715 g empty
Barrel length: 6 in. - 152 mm (also 10" - 254 mm)
Magazine: 7 (.50) rounds

Source: Not me -- internet somewhere!!

OneZero · Joined: 23 Sep 2005 Posts: 3413

RooK wrote: I vote option three: Retreat back upstairs, call the cops. Then get in a good defensive position and wait for the police.

Ditto this.

OneZero · Joined: 23 Sep 2005 Posts: 3413

britboy wrote: Good point .. er (goes surfing to find a suitable firearm!!)

You recognise it .. he has a IMI / Magnum Research Desert Eagle pistol

Type: Single Action
Chambering: .44 Magnum
Cor-bon, .50 AE
Length overall: 10.24 in. - 260mm
Weight: 62 oz. - 1,715 g empty
Barrel length: 6 in. - 152 mm (also 10" - 254 mm)
Magazine: 7 (.50) rounds

Source: Not me -- internet somewhere!!

:lol: Then I'm not worried, he doesn't know much about guns.

Onevote · Joined: 18 Sep 2004 Posts: 1688 Location: Tampa, Florida

britboy wrote: Good point .. er (lets invent one)

You recognise it .. he has a IMI / Magnum Research Desert Eagle pistol

Type: Single Action
Chambering: .357 Magnum, .41 Magnum (obsolete), .44 Magnum, .440 Cor-bon, .50 AE
Length overall: 10.24 in. - 260mm
Weight: 62 oz. - 1,715 g empty
Barrel length: 6 in. - 152 mm (also 10" - 254 mm)
Magazine: 9 (.357), 8 (.44) or 7 (.50) rounds

Source: Not me -- internet somewhere!! I would retrieve my vest and my laser sight equipped Bushmaster. Then I'd call the cops. The next move would be up to burglar dude.

britboy · Joined: 02 Jun 2006 Posts: 3559 Location: London

:-D :-D

Could have been worse! I could have said

'Suddenly his leg opens up and he pulls out a f***ing hand canon Robocop stylee'.

:P

Rankor and Pissing · Joined: 04 Mar 2006 Posts: 10208

If there's a 90% chance and I'm that close (say within 5 to 10 feet) and I've got a .40 180gr. hollow points... he get's two... center of mass.

Game over even if he had a bazooka.

OneZero · Joined: 23 Sep 2005 Posts: 3413

britboy wrote: :-D :-D

Could have been worse! I could have said

'Suddenly his leg opens up and he pulls out a f***ing hand canon Robocop stylee'.

:P

:lol:

Aqualung · Joined: 03 Jun 2006 Posts: 2260 Location: Washington

I would take the defensive position, too. I don't really take joy in using guns for anything other than shooting inanimate objects, so I wouldn't take a shot at the burgler unless I had too. On the other hand, I wouldn't want to run and have to wait forever for the cops to get there, while, in the meantime, the burgler is making his getaway.

Winchester · Joined: 23 Aug 2005 Posts: 7557 Location: Montana

I wouldn't kill him unless my life was in immintent danger or the theif was headed for my gun safe.

mattman42 · Joined: 26 Apr 2005 Posts: 661 Location: Maine

If he's in my house without my permission and armed late at night, he's fair game. In other words, I'd shoot.

OneZero · Joined: 23 Sep 2005 Posts: 3413

mattman42 wrote: If he's in my house without my permission and armed late at night, he's fair game. In other words, I'd shoot.

Two to the chest, one to the head.

Demonic Spoon · Joined: 20 Sep 2004 Posts: 6942 Location: Ohio

Hmm. Probably aim at him and tell him to get the f**k down. If he so much as goes for his gun, I shoot

Thrilla · Joined: 23 May 2005 Posts: 22263 Location: Sin City

good question :tu:

beings the family is out of town in this scenario.. i would personally go on the offensive.... i prefer to take the initiative when it is my life, and my life alone, that is in peril.

BTW... i would know before i went downstairs if a person was in the house other than myself... so i would be armed..and there is a great chance he wouldnt live long enough to know what happened.

there are alot of circumstances that arent covered.. and cant be.. so im speaking in generalities here.

the presence.. or potential presence of loved ones would change my reaction drastically...

perdidochas · Joined: 06 Mar 2006 Posts: 15424 Location: Florida

britboy wrote: I do like these little scenarios.

Burgler in your house. You creep downstairs. He's packing a gun.

You CAN get to the front door and run away WITHOUT him even seeing or hearing you. Your family is out of town.

But you reckon you have a fair shot at him, and chances are (as in 90% chance with your aiming) if you wanted to you could paint your front room a new shade of 'burgler brain red'.

You personally, what you gonna do? Fight or flight? With flight - you can call the cops .. who may or may not catch him ...

I'm not going to run away from my own house. The idea that I should consider that is ridiculous. I'm going to yell at him that I have called the police and that I'm armed, and that he'd better put his gun down and unless he has his hands up he will be shot the second I see him. If he doesn't drop his guns/put his hands up, I will be painting the house burglar artery red. (I shoot center of mass, not for the head).

airo · Joined: 31 Jul 2004 Posts: 2583 Location: Tampa, Florida

It's my house, and i have a right to exist in it without being either forced from it, or feeling that i'm in danger.

I also have the ability to defend my RIGHT to own property, and he is in no position to try and deprive me of that right.

britboy · Joined: 02 Jun 2006 Posts: 3559 Location: London

Airo fair point.

Me personally, I value my life too much to want to risk dying just over some property!

I admit I'd leg-it. I'd come back with the cops. I want the likeliness of me being shot to be as low as possible at all times. Staying in the property increases the likeliness of me being shot. The principle of me being able to guard my own house does not outweigh the fear of a high-velocity bullet shattering my rib cage into my heart (over a damn DVD player and a wide-screen TV! Jees!).

If I'm stood outside the pearly gates and I have to explain that I'm dead because no-one should be able to make me leave my house for 2 hours, St Peter is gonna laugh at me and think 'sucker, it's only a damn house! Get over it!'!!

There are few principles I'd even risk death for. Property is way off the list.

// Edited 1 time after airo posted below. Added the 'DVD comment' and corrected shi**y spelling //

airo · Joined: 31 Jul 2004 Posts: 2583 Location: Tampa, Florida

britboy wrote: Airo fair point.

Me personally, I value my life too much to want to risk dying just over some property!

I admit I'd leg-it. I'd come back with the cops. I was the likeliness of me being shot to be as low as possible at all times. Staying in the property increases the likeliness of me being shot.

If I'm stood outside the pearly gates and I have to explain that I'm dead because no-one should be able to make me leave my house for 2 hours, St Peter is gonna laugh at me and think 'sucker, it's only a damn house! Get over it!'!!

There are few principles I'd even risk death for. Property is way off the list.

I've said it on these forums before, you have to be better than the baddies when it comes to firearms.

You have to know how to shoot, and you have to be good at it. That's the responsibility of being a gun owner.

With skill and training comes mindset: The confidence in your abilities that will see you through the situation.

Those are the tools which we use to defend our rights, and every right is worth dying for. (The right to live, the right to choose your own destiny, and the right to own property.)