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[pharaoh]

Okay I watched the first 2 links then I stoped cause I didnt understand what your point is??
In the first clip, the dude (who is probably a palestinian and whose country has been under Israeli occupation for more than 50 years) express his opinion and says that Palestinians should fight the Jews like Hitler did, he DID NOT say "burn them" or "massacre them" like the title of the link says.
The second, some wacko Iranian teacher or something express his stupid opinion...so??

I still dont get yout point...

But to continue your sentence...

The people Israel is trying to make peace with are the people that Israel massacred and expelled and stole their lands and occupy for the last 50 years.

[Tepic]

39 years. (Jordan and Egypt occupied them before that). And most of them haven't been massacred, otherwise there wouldn't be anyone to make peace with, would there?

[pharaoh]

Tepic wrote: 39 years. (Jordan and Egypt occupied them before that). And most of them haven't been massacred, otherwise there wouldn't be anyone to make peace with, would there?

Actually 39 years of occupation of the west bank and Gaza but 58 years of occupation of the rest of Palestine, or do you think that the Jews were always there in Palestine and didnt come through immigration by the beginning of the 20th century??
Oh and about the massacres...yes you are right...most of them haven't been massacred (thank God) but alot did get massacred.

[Tepic]

pharaoh wrote: Actually 39 years of occupation of the west bank and Gaza but 58 years of occupation of the rest of Palestine
But Israel has already made peace with the Palestinians in the rest of Palestine ... they're citizens. Although they could be treated better, they are not treated worse than non-Muslims are in most of Israel's neighbours.

The Palestinians Israel still needs to make peace with have only been under Israeli occupation for 39 years.

Which makes me wonder, why didn't Jordan and Egypt give the Palestinians a state? It could have saved a lot of trouble :?

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pharaoh wrote: Okay I watched the first 2 links then I stoped cause I didnt understand what your point is??
In the first clip, the dude (who is probably a palestinian and whose country has been under Israeli occupation for more than 50 years) express his opinion and says that Palestinians should fight the Jews like Hitler did, he DID NOT say "burn them" or "massacre them" like the title of the link says.


yes he did he said, "just as hitler fought the jews, we are a great islamic nation of jihad, and we too should fight the jews and burn them."

[Duchifas]

Tepic wrote: Which makes me wonder, why didn't Jordan and Egypt give the Palestinians a state? It could have saved a lot of trouble :?

Excellent question, Tepic. This question always stomps pro-Palestinians.

You see, one of their arguments is that Palestinians are so different, or at least sufficiently different, from other Arabs in the region so as to deserve a state of their own.

So when I ask them, for example Saracen, why Palestinian Arabs deserve a state, when there are already 20 Arab states, he tells me how different the Palestinians are from other Arabs and on that basis they, as some sort of independent and unique nation, deserve a state of their own.

Then, when I asked him (on a different occasion) about Egyptian and Jordanian control of Gaza and West Bank, and why Palestinians didn't object to that foreign occupation or fight it, he was all too happy to tell me that "it was our own people, so it wasn't really an occupation."

So which one is it? Are Palestinians sufficiently different from other Arabs that they deserve a state of their own? Or if they are not, then why exactly do they? They want to live in an Arab state, they have plenty of choices.

The PLO (Palestinian Liberation Organization) was formed in 1964, that's three years before Israeli "occupation" of Gaza and West Bank. So in those three years, what exactly were they liberating and from whom, when they sent terrorists into Israel? And more importantly, if occupation was really what they were fighting against, why is it that they targeted Israel, and not Egypt/Jordan, the real occupying forces?

This dichotomy really exposes just how recent and shallow the myth of a "Palestinian people" is. Palestinians are Arabs, no more than that. They have a slightly different dialect, are a bit more secular, and may have some eccentricities in their folklore, but when it comes down to it, they are Arabs. And that being the case, I really don't see the basis for giving Arabs ANOTHER state.

[superskippy]

Quote: express his opinion and says that Palestinians should fight the Jews like Hitler did, he DID NOT say "burn them" or "massacre them" like the title of the link says.

Can I ask you, how did Hitler "fight" the Jews? As I recall he gassed them, shot them, starved them, and then burned them.

What else could he possibly have meant by invoking Adolf Hitler Chancellor of the infamous 3rd Reich and genocidal maniac as a type of fighting against the Jews?

I think on this one Pharoah you should recant.

[theshield]

pharaoh wrote: Okay I watched the first 2 links then I stoped cause I didnt understand what your point is??

I think it is very easy to understand his point:

Israel can't reason with the Arabs (and the Iranians for that matter) because they think like unreasonable people, and worse than that, they teach their kids to think like that.

[haouiko]

I GIVE THE SOLUTION FROM THE LAST
israel is an organisation of the terrorism allied with america to assure new colonianisme and new conservateur project
so all the world must be allied to stop these two satanique power usa and israel for the peace and for solve our earth
dont trust what you can see or heard from this person ; they can manupilate anything to convaince the world that their project of worldwide colonianisme is justified they can fabrique video manupilate presumite terroriste....

be very careful with fasciste-sionisme and wild colonianisme americain

[haouiko]

i candamn of course hitler methode for extermination of jews

but wait and ask our self


for 3000 years now .any people who host jews people was become to affront them at a time or another

they enter in your contry as victims of other , yeah , god ,as soon as they take thier place in the society start manupilation and the tries to dominate the original people ;

you ask why :
because the ediology of sionisme is based upon : we are the people elite in this world and we muss make other work for us comfort and if besoin make them our esclave

that explain why they was in conflict with all the nation that they lived with

[Duchifas]

theshield wrote: pharaoh wrote: Okay I watched the first 2 links then I stoped cause I didnt understand what your point is??

I think it is very easy to understand his point:

Israel can't reason with the Arabs (and the Iranians for that matter) because they think like unreasonable people, and worse than that, they teach their kids to think like that.

They have different objectives and priorities than Israelis, which priorities include elimination of Israel. In progressing toward their objectives, they are quite reasonable.

Israel, on the other hand, is anything but reasonable in achieving its objectives, lately.

[theshield]

Duchifas wrote: theshield wrote: pharaoh wrote: Okay I watched the first 2 links then I stoped cause I didnt understand what your point is??

I think it is very easy to understand his point:

Israel can't reason with the Arabs (and the Iranians for that matter) because they think like unreasonable people, and worse than that, they teach their kids to think like that.

They have different objectives and priorities than Israelis, which priorities include elimination of Israel. In progressing toward their objectives, they are quite reasonable.

Israel, on the other hand, is anything but reasonable in achieving its objectives, lately.

You see Duchi. unlike you brother, i don't expect the god of Israel to appear and save his lost children.It has been a while since he showed his face.

To be quite honest there are around 6 million questions i would like to ask him ....

Taking that basic difference between us i hope you will understand that my attitude to Israeli-Arab conflict is anything but religious.

Now you tell me my friend what are the options?What would a reasonable nation do in light of the fact that this is who they are?

Nothing is the worst solution. why? because of demography.

Israel objective is to live in peace, this is unattainable no matter what we will do, so what do you want us to do?

[Duchifas]

theshield wrote: You see Duchi. unlike you brother, i don't expect the god of Israel to appear and save his lost children.It has been a while since he showed his face.

To be quite honest there are around 6 million questions i would like to ask him ....

I speak with Israelis often, especially here, and I can give many reasons for my thinking, before we ever get to G-d. I understand that we view life in different ways, but I don't think that one needs religious training or conviction to understand why creating a terror state on Israel's doorstep is suicidal.

While you don't need to let religion to dictate how to live your life, I also think you cannot dismiss it, as I explain below.

Quote: Taking that basic difference between us i hope you will understand that my attitude to Israeli-Arab conflict is anything but religious.

Two things. One, I hope you will agree with me, that at least to one side, Arabs, this conflict is religious. Not wholly religious, but religion does play a very major part in their attitude. Jihad.

Two, from the Israeli perspective, if you take religion out of it, then the Arabs are right. If you take Jewish religious and traditional claims to the land, and the idea of the sanctity of the land out of it, then I am sorry to tell you, but Israel ain't nothing more than a little vestige of European colonialism, with prevalently Jewish last names.

Obviously, people can view the traditional/religious Jewish claim to the land as not very credible, particularly if they don't believe in the Bible. But, nevertheless it is a legitimate and continuous claim, and there are enough people in this world who hold the Bible as authoritative (billions of them).

But throw religion out the window -- what right do Israelis have to Israel? No more than Britain to India. Settlers from Europe came and settled and kicked people out. So I am sorry to tell you, but if you dismiss religion, then the Arabs are right.

So I really can't understand how your attitude can be "anything but religious." If that is the case, your attitude just doesn't make sense (no personal offense). By dismissing our religion and tradition, you are dismissing the very basis of Jewish existence in the land of Israel. For all their secularism and all the efforts to exclude G-d from their lives, even the founders of Israel recognized that the basis of Israel existence is rooted in religion. It can't be any other way. Here, from the very first lines of Israel's declaration of independence:

Quote: ERETZ-ISRAEL (the Land of Israel) was the birthplace of the Jewish people. Here their spiritual, religious and political identity was shaped. Here they first attained to statehood, created cultural values of national and universal significance and gave to the world the eternal Book of Books.

After being forcibly exiled from their land, the people kept faith with it throughout their Dispersion and never ceased to pray and hope for their return to it and for the restoration in it of their political freedom.

Impelled by this historic and traditional attachment, Jews strove in every successive generation to re-establish themselves in their ancient homeland. In recent decades they returned in their masses. Pioneers, ma'pilim (immigrants coming to Eretz-Israel in defiance of restrictive legislation) and defenders, they made deserts bloom, revived the Hebrew language, built villages and towns, and created a thriving community controlling its own economy and culture, loving peace but knowing how to defend itself, bringing the blessings of progress to all the country's inhabitants, and aspiring towards independent nationhood.

This language, deliniating the basis of founding of Israel, did not come from a religious Zionist yeshiva. It came from the very secular founders of Israel. I think, that while not being overtly religious in their personal lives, they very clearly realized where exactly their right to the land came from, and that this right supersedes all other rights. The right of Jews to live in Israel did not come from Balfour, nor from the League of Nations. They merely acknowledged and recognized the ancient Jewish right to Israel. The right itself comes from the "eternal Book of Books."

The existence of Israel being at the heart of the conflict, therefore, I do not think that religion can be disregarded from either side, Arab or Jewish. I don't see what changed so much in the last 60 years to negate that basic truth. If you dismiss our religion, tradition and the Torah, then you cannot really understand the premise of this conflict adequately. And more importantly, once you dismiss those basic religious claims that underlie your very right to live in the land of Israel, then the Arabs --- they are right. Who are you? Why are you there, in their midst? By what right?

Quote: Now you tell me my friend what are the options?What would a reasonable nation do in light of the fact that this is who they are?

Nothing is the worst solution. why? because of demography.

Israel objective is to live in peace, this is unattainable no matter what we will do, so what do you want us to do?

Peace is unattainable, I agree. In such circumstances, a reasonable nation would make itself as secure as possible. Giving concessions to terror, and doing everything possible to allow the establishment and thriving of a fanatical terrorist state on the doorstep is not reasonable by any stretch of imagination.

With respect to demography, look to the birth rate of religious Zionists. Catch up. ;) I think that's a much more ..... pleasurable ..... solution than destroying their communities. Nor do I understand how pulling out of Gaza (or WB) will solve the demographic problem? What happened, Palestinians stopped having sex as soon as you pulled out? Don't think so.

Well, in any case, at least there has been some progress since 1993, in that most Israelis that I talk to have come to the conclusion that peace is unattainable. At least listening to how withdrawals will shorten lines of defense is less painful than listening to how Rabin and Arafat can make peace, if only a little more time, if only give a little more land, if only Bibi didn't come and ruin everything.

I predict that in a few years, a decade at most, most Israelis will view disengagement as a tragic and very stupid and very costly error.

[theshield]

Duchifas wrote: One, I hope you will agree with me, that at least to one side, Arabs, this conflict is religious. Not wholly religious, but religion does play a very major part in their attitude. Jihad.

Agreed

Quote: Two, from the Israeli perspective, if you take religion out of it, then the Arabs are right

This is the basic flaw in your argument.You are trying to prove who is right.I think at this point of time most of the world and so do i , don't really care who is right any more.

As i said before, American,Canadians,Australians,New-Zealanders they all live happily on land taken by force with no justification.Who cares?

What happened happened , what was was , you can't live in the past all the time.Today modern people know better and they want to build a better world.

That's not to say that you shouldn't learn from history but don't let it cloud the future.


Quote: This language, deliniating the basis of founding of Israel, did not come from a religious Zionist yeshiva. It came from the very secular founders of Israel. I think, that while not being overtly religious in their personal lives, they very clearly realized where exactly their right to the land came from, and that this right supersedes all other rights. The right of Jews to live in Israel did not come from Balfour, nor from the League of Nations. They merely acknowledged and recognized the ancient Jewish right to Israel. The right itself comes from the "eternal Book of Books."

The logic of the founders of Israel was their logic, I doubt very much what would Hertzel prefer if he could forecast the future: Israel or Uganda. British, French,Russians didn't defend their country because of religion.There is much more in the concept nation than religion.

Quote: The existence of Israel being at the heart of the conflict, therefore, I do not think that religion can be disregarded from either side, Arab or Jewish.

It must, if not you are condemning this region for eternal war.
I really don't know if there is god , but if there is then one thing i can assure you my friend,he didn't want us to kill each other.


Quote: Peace is unattainable, I agree. In such circumstances, a reasonable nation would make itself as secure as possible. Giving concessions to terror, and doing everything possible to allow the establishment and thriving of a fanatical terrorist state on the doorstep is not reasonable by any stretch of imagination.

But that is what is done.A.The wall- which as you remember was opposed to at the beginning by the rightist and as you said yourself proved it self.B.Making the IDF life easier by not having to guard isolated settlements.These are not concessions because there is no return from the Palestine, the return is that it Will make IDF life easier.

Quote: With respect to demography, look to the birth rate of religious Zionists. Catch up. ;) I think that's a much more ..... pleasurable ..... solution than destroying their communities.

How shall i say it politely my friend??? i guess you know it yourself.Israeli's are "excited" from the demographic shift toward more religious people as much as they are toward Arabs.I believe most still want the current status-quot to remain.Not too many would like to live in a religious state.

Quote: Nor do I understand how pulling out of Gaza (or WB) will solve the demographic problem? What happened, Palestinians stopped having sex as soon as you pulled out? Don't think so.

They can do what ever they want , but we wont be mixed among them.The army will be there not our citizens.

Quote: Well, in any case, at least there has been some progress since 1993, in that most Israelis that I talk to have come to the conclusion that peace is unattainable. At least listening to how withdrawals will shorten lines of defense is less painful than listening to how Rabin and Arafat can make peace, if only a little more time, if only give a little more land, if only Bibi didn't come and ruin everything.

Don't dismiss Rabin so fast, may i remind you one very important sentence said by him "we have not come to an empty land".Rightist should recognize that.

You see if you were total extreme right , you would have offered to deport the Palestinians and get over that problem.I would of course argue that this is immoral and there is no chance in the world that it will happen but at least you would be offering some solution.

As it stand what you are basically saying is that the situation is bad, it will get worse and you have to live with it.

I am sorry Duchi but you can't say that to people, people need hope, on both sides.

[henri]

theshield wrote: Duchifas wrote: theshield wrote: pharaoh wrote: Okay I watched the first 2 links then I stoped cause I didnt understand what your point is??

I think it is very easy to understand his point:

Israel can't reason with the Arabs (and the Iranians for that matter) because they think like unreasonable people, and worse than that, they teach their kids to think like that.

They have different objectives and priorities than Israelis, which priorities include elimination of Israel. In progressing toward their objectives, they are quite reasonable.

Israel, on the other hand, is anything but reasonable in achieving its objectives, lately.

You see Duchi. unlike you brother, i don't expect the god of Israel to appear and save his lost children.It has been a while since he showed his face.

To be quite honest there are around 6 million questions i would like to ask him ....

Taking that basic difference between us i hope you will understand that my attitude to Israeli-Arab conflict is anything but religious.

Now you tell me my friend what are the options?What would a reasonable nation do in light of the fact that this is who they are?

Nothing is the worst solution. why? because of demography.

Israel objective is to live in peace, this is unattainable no matter what we will do, so what do you want us to do?

[b]*****

Shield,

Zionist Israel's only intention is to get rid of all "Goyims" from Palestine, with unlimitred support of our good old USA.

The Zionist goal is to make "Israel" GOYIMREIN, exactly copying from the Christians of the middle ages.
Between 1348 and 1350, during the black plague, ordinary Germans slaughtered the Jews of roughly three hundred fifty communities, virtually every city and town, rendering Germany almost 'judenrein'

"There is no such thing as a Palestinian people...It is not as if we came and threw them out and took their country. They didn't exist" - Golda Meir statement to the Sunday Times, June 15, 1969.

"How can we return the occupied territories? There is nobody to return them to". - Golda Meir, quoted in Chapter 13 of the Zionist Connection II.

"The very point of Labor's Zionist program is to have as much land as possible and as few Arabs as possible". - Yitzhak Navon, "moderate" ex-Israel president and a leading labor party politician.

"In our country there is room only for Jews. We shall say to the Arabs: Get out! If they don't agree, if they resists, we shall drive them out by force". - Professor Ben-Zion Dinur, Israel's First Minister of Education.

"It is not a matter of maintaining the status quo. We have to create a dynamic state, oriented towards expansion". - Ben Gurion.

And by doing that "expansion", every means is being applied. terror. murder, torture, rape..."appropriate for the circumstances of today" according to former Israel Prime Minister, Zionist terrorist.

Henry Kissinger, former U.S. Secretary of State 'recommended' that Israel put down the Palestine uprising "as quickly as possible - overwhelmingly, brutally and rapidly". Quoted in Decmber 97 article in The Washington Post Report on Middle East.

>>...I don't expect the God of Israel to appear and save his lost children<<

Well Dubya told the world that he got permission from his God to go to war with Iraq. Is Dubya's God the same as the Israeli's?

.BTW, Kissinger is a Jew.

[Duchifas]

Quote: This is the basic flaw in your argument.You are trying to prove who is right.I think at this point of time most of the world and so do i , don't really care who is right any more.

As i said before, American,Canadians,Australians,New-Zealanders they all live happily on land taken by force with no justification.Who cares?

What do you mean, who cares? Israelis care, as far as I can tell, more than anyone.

Australians, Canadians, Americans, and New-Zealanders all live happily, without much guilt that leads them to establish independent Indian/Inuit/Aboriginal/Maori states in the middle of their respective countries.

If the Israelis behaved like the nations you mentioned, there would be no problems today. But it is the Israelis who have these doubts and guilts all the time. "We didn't come to an empty land," we can't occupy, occupation corrupts, etc, etc, etc. Oslo was an Israeli project, not imposed on Israel. Disengagement was an Israeli idea, not imposed on Israel.

To me, this indicates, that much more so than the other nations that you mentioned, Israel has a gigantic guilt complex and that Israelis don't feel that they are in the right. You feel that you really robbed the Palestinians, took something that wasn't yours in the first place, and now you need to make amends. This attitude is abundantly clear in the Israeli mindset, particularly the Lefter side of it.

So the question of who is "right" is VERY relevant. In large part, because Israelis make it very relevant, and perhaps even more relevant than it should be, considering the modern realities.

With that in mind, I refer you to what I said above -- in short summary, if you throw G-d, Torah and tradition out the window, the Arabs are right by default. And the case of Israel becomes much closer to Europeans leaving their colonies in India, Africa, etc, than to Americans, etc. If you really wanted to model yourself on Americans and Australians, then you would slaughter the Palestinians, and put the survivors on reservations (I am not advocating that). The primary reason you don't do it, is because the concept of "right" is still very relevant to the Israeli mind. As relevant today, as 60 years ago.

Quote: What happened happened , what was was , you can't live in the past all the time.Today modern people know better and they want to build a better world.

That's not to say that you shouldn't learn from history but don't let it cloud the future.

Listen, I don't think that's a genuine description of how Israelis view it. If that were truly so, then there wouldn't be these radical and suicidal attempts to appease Arabs every few years. From Oslo to Wye to Camp David to Geneva to Disengagement. It's not me who can't let go what happened, and to make amends. It is the Israelis.

Quote: The logic of the founders of Israel was their logic, I doubt very much what would Hertzel prefer if he could forecast the future: Israel or Uganda. British, French,Russians didn't defend their country because of religion.There is much more in the concept nation than religion.

I know there is more. I never denied it. But won't you agree with me, that the case of the Jewish people, returning to their land after 2,000 years, is not the mode, but rather (the only known) exception? And that the premise of that is rooted in religion? Much more so than in case of Britain or France. How can anyone deny that?

Quote: It must, if not you are condemning this region for eternal war.
I really don't know if there is god , but if there is then one thing i can assure you my friend,he didn't want us to kill each other.

What makes you think that once you drop religion, killing will cease? I am just having trouble tracing your logic here.

Quote: But that is what is done.A.The wall- which as you remember was opposed to at the beginning by the rightist and as you said yourself proved it self.B.Making the IDF life easier by not having to guard isolated settlements.These are not concessions because there is no return from the Palestine, the return is that it Will make IDF life easier.

The strategic considerations we discussed many times already. I am sure you know my answer to these.

Quote: How shall i say it politely my friend??? i guess you know it yourself.Israeli's are "excited" from the demographic shift toward more religious people as much as they are toward Arabs.

Oh, I know all too well. It's sad that a large sector of the Israeli public views their brothers as enemies, sometimes even more so than the Arabs. That was the real idea behind disengagement, and that's the real driving force behind destroying Jewish communities in the West Bank.

To make the long discussion short, it's a losing battle for the Left. Sorry. This is not a new phenomenon in Jewish history, but a recurrent one. It's pretty clear how this will turn out.

Quote: I believe most still want the current status-quot to remain.Not too many would like to live in a religious state.

Uprooting religious Zionists from their homes and destorying their base is status-quo? Don't delude yourselves. The new generation, yes the generation that has 8 kids per family, is not growing up with the notion of much loyalty to the state. That will carry more reprocussions in the future than we can imagine.

Quote: Don't dismiss Rabin so fast, may i remind you one very important sentence said by him "we have not come to an empty land".Rightist should recognize that.

You see if you were total extreme right , you would have offered to deport the Palestinians and get over that problem.I would of course argue that this is immoral and there is no chance in the world that it will happen but at least you would be offering some solution.

You are being inconsistent. You were comparing Israel to Australia, etc. "We didn't come to an empty land" was not the mindset of Australians, even though they are making some show to the contrary these days. But the actions speak much louder than words.

Quote: As it stand what you are basically saying is that the situation is bad, it will get worse and you have to live with it.

I am sorry Duchi but you can't say that to people, people need hope, on both sides.

People need hope, not false hope. Oslo gave people a false hope. That ended up well, didn't it? Uprooting Jewish communities in the hope that it will somehow make it all better is another false hope, which like Oslo, will be followed by tragic consequences.

[theshield]

Duchifas wrote: Oh, I know all too well. It's sad that a large sector of the Israeli public views their brothers as enemies, sometimes even more so than the Arabs. That was the real idea behind disengagement, and that's the real driving force behind destroying Jewish communities in the West Bank.

Look Duchi, we both know it is a dead end .We will not agree.There are no instant solutions.

But one thing i have to say.If you really believe that Israeli's see their brothers as enemies and that is the driving force behind the disengagement then you are dead wrong.

People wont like to live in a religious state, i admit.We are secular people and wouldn't like to change our way of life.

But from that to conclude that we see them as enemies is far from reality.We can't accept their reasoning because it is based on religion and that is not good enough for us.

At the moment since the other side logic is also based on religion we are caught in a dead end, but if what happened to us will happen to them.If secularism will penetrate Muslim society this region will thrive.

[cap'n queasy]

superskippy wrote: Quote: express his opinion and says that Palestinians should fight the Jews like Hitler did, he DID NOT say "burn them" or "massacre them" like the title of the link says.

Can I ask you, how did Hitler "fight" the Jews? As I recall he gassed them, shot them, starved them, and then burned them.

What else could he possibly have meant by invoking Adolf Hitler Chancellor of the infamous 3rd Reich and genocidal maniac as a type of fighting against the Jews?

I think on this one Pharoah you should recant.

He obviously believes the Nazis had a valid reason for doing this. Just like the guy on the video.

[cap'n queasy]

theshield wrote: pharaoh wrote: Okay I watched the first 2 links then I stoped cause I didnt understand what your point is??

I think it is very easy to understand his point:

Israel can't reason with the Arabs (and the Iranians for that matter) because they think like unreasonable people, and worse than that, they teach their kids to think like that.

Exactly.