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ToonArmyIsComing · Joined: 15 Feb 2005 Posts: 5888 Location: Ontario

I have been thinking so much about the state of this world, God, and human beings within it. What I have realized is that YHWA/Jesus/God/Lord/Jehovah/Allah/etc may be nothing more than a demonic God/demigod.

YHWA/Jesus/God/Lord/Jehovah is a vicious being who is vengeful and brings about so much death and destruction. He demands human beings to obey his orders mindlessly by having faith in him. He has handed down laws through his religions. In a way, his religions have caused division, rejection of humanity, repression, polarization of society, death, destruction, and many other things. Could it be that God is the true demon? Satan is the God of human beings. He promotes reason and individualism and rejects collectivism and herd conformity.

In conclusion, the true Lord may be Satan.

psholtz · Joined: 15 Feb 2004 Posts: 23468 Location: California

Satan is the Accuser.

Nothing more.

Shady · Joined: 13 Oct 2005 Posts: 7413 Location: VA

Well Satan is probably the Lord of Hell...

eynon · Posted: Thu Jun 01, 2006 12:21 am Post subject:

he's the prince of this world........but the universe has a much higher authority

George W Bush · Posted: Thu Jun 01, 2006 10:34 am Post subject: Re: Satan may be the true Lord

ToonArmyIsComing wrote: I have been thinking so much about the state of this world, God, and human beings within it. What I have realized is that YHWA/Jesus/God/Lord/Jehovah/Allah/etc may be nothing more than a demonic God/demigod.

YHWA/Jesus/God/Lord/Jehovah is a vicious being who is vengeful and brings about so much death and destruction. He demands human beings to obey his orders mindlessly by having faith in him. He has handed down laws through his religions. In a way, his religions have caused division, rejection of humanity, repression, polarization of society, death, destruction, and many other things. Could it be that God is the true demon? Satan is the God of human beings. He promotes reason and individualism and rejects collectivism and herd conformity.

In conclusion, the true Lord may be Satan.

Good observation. that makes sense.
now, if only more people would dwell on the history of God worship besides blindly believing god is all good, we could finally get passed bigotry and self righteousness.

ideal · Joined: 29 Jan 2006 Posts: 213 Location: Wyoming

Now, I assume you mean Lucifer rather than every being who's ever been given the title of Satan. If so, are you certain he's even that prevalent a figure?

sparsely · Joined: 20 May 2006 Posts: 2020

ToonArmyIsComing wrote: In conclusion, the true Lord may be Satan.

lol.
Who? :lol:

Carlin · Posted: Thu Jun 01, 2006 11:52 am Post subject:

Actually, to believe that Satan isn't a servant of God is more than a little Naive. Why would Satan rule a Hell where he tortures people who are not subservient to God the same way he isn't? I would imagine he would run Hell as a happy place where he would personally reward those who have more so followed him than God. That appears to not be the case, if evil sinners are being tortured in Hell, then I'm sad to say, the orders are coming from the top.

perdidochas · Joined: 06 Mar 2006 Posts: 15312 Location: Florida

Carlin wrote: Actually, to believe that Satan isn't a servant of God is more than a little Naive. Why would Satan rule a Hell where he tortures people who are not subservient to God the same way he isn't? I would imagine he would run Hell as a happy place where he would personally reward those who have more so followed him than God. That appears to not be the case, if evil sinners are being tortured in Hell, then I'm sad to say, the orders are coming from the top.

That's a very childlike view of hell. Hell, from my understanding, is a place that is absent from any aspect of God.

Carlin · Posted: Thu Jun 01, 2006 12:12 pm Post subject:

perdidochas wrote:

That's a very childlike view of hell. Hell, from my understanding, is a place that is absent from any aspect of God.

You mean it's just like Earth? :lol:

Todd D. · Posted: Thu Jun 01, 2006 12:31 pm Post subject:

Carlin wrote: perdidochas wrote:

That's a very childlike view of hell. Hell, from my understanding, is a place that is absent from any aspect of God.

You mean it's just like Earth? :lol:
HAR HAR HAR OMG YOU DON'T BELEIVE IN GOD I GET IT HAR HAR HAR

Seriously, why even bother posting in here if you're just gonna be a douche about it?

Carlin · Posted: Thu Jun 01, 2006 12:38 pm Post subject:

Todd D. wrote: Carlin wrote: perdidochas wrote:

That's a very childlike view of hell. Hell, from my understanding, is a place that is absent from any aspect of God.

You mean it's just like Earth? :lol:
HAR HAR HAR OMG YOU DON'T BELEIVE IN GOD I GET IT HAR HAR HAR

Seriously, why even bother posting in here if you're just gonna be a douche about it?

What are you talking about? I was just kidding. :cry:

But how have I been a "douche" about it? I don't recall ever interacting with you before, but I'm a firm believer in free thought and individual freedom for people to believe whatever they want. I respect people's religious beliefes. I may have some concerns about how some enact their views to where it inhibits others, but I merely try to discuss what I feel; not attack. Still, I'm not sure where I've been a jerk.

Todd D. · Posted: Thu Jun 01, 2006 1:00 pm Post subject:

See, what you just said is fine. When someone says that Hell is not ruled by Satan, but rather an area that is completely devoid of God's presence, and you scoff and say "Just like Earth" with a condascending laugh, that's being a douche.

melchizedek22 · Joined: 27 Apr 2006 Posts: 370 Location: Holy Toledo

"Even the ArchAngel Michael didn't accuse Satan,but said "the LORD rebuke you"

Carlin · Posted: Fri Jun 02, 2006 12:12 am Post subject:

Todd D. wrote: See, what you just said is fine. When someone says that Hell is not ruled by Satan, but rather an area that is completely devoid of God's presence, and you scoff and say "Just like Earth" with a condascending laugh, that's being a douche.

It's merely a joke. I wouldn't expect my comment to have any relevance for firm believers in God. I saw an opening to say something I thought was humorous, so I took it.

cap'n queasy · Joined: 15 May 2004 Posts: 34968

ToonArmyIsComing wrote: I have been thinking so much about the state of this world, God, and human beings within it. What I have realized is that YHWA/Jesus/God/Lord/Jehovah/Allah/etc may be nothing more than a demonic God/demigod.

YHWA/Jesus/God/Lord/Jehovah is a vicious being who is vengeful and brings about so much death and destruction. He demands human beings to obey his orders mindlessly by having faith in him. He has handed down laws through his religions. In a way, his religions have caused division, rejection of humanity, repression, polarization of society, death, destruction, and many other things. Could it be that God is the true demon? Satan is the God of human beings. He promotes reason and individualism and rejects collectivism and herd conformity.

In conclusion, the true Lord may be Satan.

You're not the first to come to this conclusion. Nor will you be the last.

Hyde · Posted: Wed Jun 07, 2006 2:30 pm Post subject:

the and destruction was not caused by god but buy man. man has his own free will to kill and mur.der whoever they choose, but also to do good. Gods message was never to mur.der or kill, that was mans idea.

Todd D. · Posted: Wed Jun 07, 2006 3:54 pm Post subject:

Carlin wrote: Todd D. wrote: See, what you just said is fine. When someone says that Hell is not ruled by Satan, but rather an area that is completely devoid of God's presence, and you scoff and say "Just like Earth" with a condascending laugh, that's being a douche.

It's merely a joke. I wouldn't expect my comment to have any relevance for firm believers in God. I saw an opening to say something I thought was humorous, so I took it.
Fair enough, my apologies. Sometimes it is hard to tell where sarcasm begins on message boards.

Kt · Joined: 23 Jan 2006 Posts: 3806

cap'n queasy wrote: ToonArmyIsComing wrote: I have been thinking so much about the state of this world, God, and human beings within it. What I have realized is that YHWA/Jesus/God/Lord/Jehovah/Allah/etc may be nothing more than a demonic God/demigod.

YHWA/Jesus/God/Lord/Jehovah is a vicious being who is vengeful and brings about so much death and destruction. He demands human beings to obey his orders mindlessly by having faith in him. He has handed down laws through his religions. In a way, his religions have caused division, rejection of humanity, repression, polarization of society, death, destruction, and many other things. Could it be that God is the true demon? Satan is the God of human beings. He promotes reason and individualism and rejects collectivism and herd conformity.

In conclusion, the true Lord may be Satan.

You're not the first to come to this conclusion. Nor will you be the last.

This seems to be the trend in times of intellectual (and spiritual) developlent.

sparsely · Joined: 20 May 2006 Posts: 2020

lol. Mankind apparantly hasn't developed spiritually and intellectually enough to stop blaming
our own achievements and dumbassness on mythical beings.