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strahl_berlin05



Joined: 05 Nov 2005
Posts: 88
Location: Berlin

Posted: Mon May 29, 2006 3:10 pm    Post subject: A story of a Muslim by a non-Muslim  

Hello,

I want to ask Muslim posters to this forum if they would give some feed back on a tale I wrote a while back about a Muslim man in Berlin, Germany. I am not a Muslim myself but after discussing Islam with Muslim friends, the story below came to mind. I'm interested in your opinions.

http://beamaninberlin.blogspot.com/2006/05/marzuq-one-word.html

Many thanks.

Yalla, Salam.

:crsd:
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MALIK



Joined: 24 Apr 2005
Posts: 132

Posted: Mon May 29, 2006 4:04 pm    Post subject:  

Nice story .

:)

What exactly encouraged you to write this? What did you talk about with your friends?
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strahl_berlin05



Joined: 05 Nov 2005
Posts: 88
Location: Berlin

Posted: Tue May 30, 2006 3:56 am    Post subject:  

Quote: What exactly encouraged you to write this?

A close friend of mine is Muslim, I wrote it for her in a way. She loved it I might add.

Quote: What did you talk about with your friends?

They talked about how Islam is the right and only way, plus mentioned the greatness of Allah and his prophet.
I spoke about my non-belief and leanings towards Buddhism. :wink:
Interesting talks which probably strengthened each others beliefs (or non-beliefs) further.

Quote: Nice story.

Thank you.
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SaintLucifer



Joined: 30 May 2006
Posts: 79

Posted: Tue May 30, 2006 7:59 pm    Post subject: Islam Must Be Destroyed!  

It is my contention as a fascist that Islam must be destroyed once and for all. It is a violent religion which empowers people to kill others. I need only say two words: 9-11. Beslan. I rest my case.
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MALIK



Joined: 24 Apr 2005
Posts: 132

Posted: Wed May 31, 2006 4:06 am    Post subject: Re: Islam Must Be Destroyed!  

SaintLucifer wrote: It is my contention as a fascist that Islam must be destroyed once and for all. It is a violent religion which empowers people to kill others. I need only say two words: 9-11. Beslan. I rest my case.

And it is my contention as a Muslim that Fascism must be destroyed once and for all. It is a violent ideology which empowers people to kill others. I need only say to words: Hitler and Mussolini. I rest my case.
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Boneman



Joined: 24 Feb 2006
Posts: 511

Posted: Wed May 31, 2006 12:24 pm    Post subject:  

hahahaha, owned
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pharaoh



Joined: 25 Apr 2004
Posts: 1526
Location: Inside the Pyramide!

Posted: Wed May 31, 2006 12:52 pm    Post subject: Re: Islam Must Be Destroyed!  

MALIK wrote: SaintLucifer wrote: It is my contention as a fascist that Islam must be destroyed once and for all. It is a violent religion which empowers people to kill others. I need only say two words: 9-11. Beslan. I rest my case.

And it is my contention as a Muslim that Fascism must be destroyed once and for all. It is a violent ideology which empowers people to kill others. I need only say to words: Hitler and Mussolini. I rest my case.

:lol: NICE! :wink:
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SaintLucifer



Joined: 30 May 2006
Posts: 79

Posted: Wed May 31, 2006 6:10 pm    Post subject: Re: Islam Must Be Destroyed!  

MALIK wrote: SaintLucifer wrote: It is my contention as a fascist that Islam must be destroyed once and for all. It is a violent religion which empowers people to kill others. I need only say two words: 9-11. Beslan. I rest my case.

And it is my contention as a Muslim that Fascism must be destroyed once and for all. It is a violent ideology which empowers people to kill others. I need only say to words: Hitler and Mussolini. I rest my case.

How does fascism empower leaders to kill other people? Nowhere in the ideology of fascism does it state that one tenet of fascism is to kill people as it does in the Qu'ran. Hitler and Mussolini were two megalomaniacs who used their dictatorial powers to start wars. Mussolini did most of his warring due to jealousy of Hitler's accomplishments. Hitler had basically ignored Mussolini during his campaigns across Europe and this pissed him off to no end. In no way did fascism play any part in their personal goals. They were evil dictators who hijacked a perfectly good political philosphy and bastardised it.

Your wonderful Qu'ran actually states it is the job of a Muslim to kill all infidels (unbelievers). Do not seek to compare Islam with Fascism where there can be none. Fascism arose during high tensions in Europe. What else would you expect to happen? Mussolini and Hitler twisted fascism for their own ends. Nowhere has it ever been stated a goal of fascism was world domination. I can think off the top of my head two philosophies that would demand such world domination: Communism and Islam.
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Muslima



Joined: 13 Nov 2005
Posts: 1642

Posted: Thu Jun 01, 2006 4:52 am    Post subject:  

honestly, your short story is very mind sweeping, it made the reader live the moment.....
nice way of writing too
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MALIK



Joined: 24 Apr 2005
Posts: 132

Posted: Thu Jun 01, 2006 5:13 am    Post subject: Re: Islam Must Be Destroyed!  

SaintLucifer wrote: MALIK wrote: SaintLucifer wrote: It is my contention as a fascist that Islam must be destroyed once and for all. It is a violent religion which empowers people to kill others. I need only say two words: 9-11. Beslan. I rest my case.

And it is my contention as a Muslim that Fascism must be destroyed once and for all. It is a violent ideology which empowers people to kill others. I need only say to words: Hitler and Mussolini. I rest my case.

How does fascism empower leaders to kill other people? Nowhere in the ideology of fascism does it state that one tenet of fascism is to kill people as it does in the Qu'ran. Hitler and Mussolini were two megalomaniacs who used their dictatorial powers to start wars. Mussolini did most of his warring due to jealousy of Hitler's accomplishments. Hitler had basically ignored Mussolini during his campaigns across Europe and this pissed him off to no end. In no way did fascism play any part in their personal goals. They were evil dictators who hijacked a perfectly good political philosphy and bastardised it.

Your wonderful Qu'ran actually states it is the job of a Muslim to kill all infidels (unbelievers). Do not seek to compare Islam with Fascism where there can be none. Fascism arose during high tensions in Europe. What else would you expect to happen? Mussolini and Hitler twisted fascism for their own ends. Nowhere has it ever been stated a goal of fascism was world domination. I can think off the top of my head two philosophies that would demand such world domination: Communism and Islam.

Quran doesnt say Muslims to kill people. I know you read verses in anti-Islamic websites. But they only take one verse, or even part of a verse sometimes. For instance, (example) verse says "fight them", you only see this part. Next verse says "if they attack you first".

Fascism is peaceful yea right. Tell me some fascist leaders who didnt cause trouble. You say Hitler and Musso are bad examples of fascism, but you seem to forget that Al-Qaeda is also a bad example of Islam...Killing a civilan is not allowed in Islam, you get death penalty for that under shariah law. Yet you think Quran tells us to do what Laden is doing right ?

Do you think your race is superior to others btw?
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