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locke862 · Joined: 24 May 2006 Posts: 84

This area is primarily for discussing resolutions to the Palestinian-Israeli conflicts.

Israel should relocate all Israelis in the West Bank and Gaza Strip. Then, place a Mine Field around the border and have a few checkpoints on roads to get through, (tight security there). The only dilemma is that the Israelis would not want to leave and this could cause a civil war.

theshield · Joined: 18 Apr 2006 Posts: 350

Here is another idea:

We will dig a hole in the ground until Israel's land will be detached from the ME.We will become an island.

Once this happens we will start floating in the ocean until we find a bit friendlier neighborhood (we will make sure we won't end up too close to Europe, we know where that may lead us).

Before we leave , we will kiss our lovely cousins goodbye, take some photos for old time sake.Make sure we have enough Humus and falafel for the trip and be on our way.

How is that?

Secondary Oak · Joined: 02 Oct 2004 Posts: 3418 Location: Haifa

locke862 wrote: This area is primarily for discussing resolutions to the Palestinian-Israeli conflicts.

Israel should relocate all Israelis in the West Bank and Gaza Strip. Then, place a Mine Field around the border and have a few checkpoints on roads to get through, (tight security there). The only dilemma is that the Israelis would not want to leave and this could cause a civil war.
What you crudely outline is more or less the path Israel has chosen to take.

nrhy · Joined: 02 Feb 2006 Posts: 697 Location: Spain

theshield wrote: Here is another idea:

We will dig a hole in the ground until Israel's land will be detached from the ME.We will become an island.

Once this happens we will start floating in the ocean until we find a bit friendlier neighborhood (we will make sure we won't end up too close to Europe, we know where that may lead us).

Before we leave , we will kiss our lovely cousins goodbye, take some photos for old time sake.Make sure we have enough Humus and falafel for the trip and be on our way.

How is that?

how about...dumping israelis on an island (madagascar?), rather than breaking of the levante.

Kane · Joined: 27 Apr 2006 Posts: 12677 Location: Bay Area, CA

Just give everybody a doughnut.

theshield · Joined: 18 Apr 2006 Posts: 350

nrhy wrote: how about...dumping israelis on an island (madagascar?), rather than breaking of the levante.

I think you have tried that few times (dumping Israelis and all that...) , can't really say you were that successful.

But the fact that this time you offer an island rather than throwing the Jews to the sea is a progress.

You know what cousin, if i were in your shoes i wouldn't like to see us gone

.After we will be gone who else can you blame for you pathetic life? the scapegoat has gone.

Duchifas · Joined: 22 Jun 2004 Posts: 9950

theshield wrote: nrhy wrote: how about...dumping israelis on an island (madagascar?), rather than breaking of the levante.

I think you have tried that few times (dumping Israelis and all that...) , can't really say you were that successful.

But the fact that this time you offer an island rather than throwing the Jews to the sea is a progress.

You know what cousin, if i were in your shoes i wouldn't like to see us gone

.After we will be gone who else can you blame for you pathetic life? the scapegoat has gone.

I don't think Arabs will have a hard time finding another scapegoat. After all, blame shifting seems to be their national sport. It will take a day or two, but I am sure they will manage. :)

mr_happy · Joined: 29 Mar 2006 Posts: 319

well first Islamic Jihad needs to stop blowing things up and calling for Jewish blood

Then Israel can give back all the land seized in 1967 in exchange for sole control of Jerusalem

Seems good to me.

ToonArmyIsComing · Joined: 15 Feb 2005 Posts: 5888 Location: Ontario

The best solution [while not realistic] is to require that everyone in the region renounce their religions and start using the brain to better the lives of everyone in the region and respect other people's freedoms. All sites of worship such as the Dome of Rock, Mecca, various Churches, mosques, synagogues, etc should be transformed into either tourist resorts or centres of education in how to be tolerant and respect other people's freedoms.

Alternatively, a good old fashioned genocide to wipe out the entire population in the whole region could solve the problem forever after which the area would be completely empty and peaceful.

theshield wrote: .After we will be gone who else can you blame for you pathetic life? the scapegoat has gone.

Er ... you must have a really short memory. This region has been a site of conflict for 1000s of years before "you" [I am using you to distinguish the Jews who came from Europe and Africa] arrived here and scapegoats have been plenty. These days, the Jewish state is the best form of scapegoat as it is in the News all the time.

Gnostic · Posted: Sun May 28, 2006 1:41 am Post subject:

mr_happy wrote: well first Islamic Jihad needs to stop blowing things up and calling for Jewish blood

Then Israel can give back all the land seized in 1967 in exchange for sole control of Jerusalem

Seems good to me.

I've as of late actually stopped paying attention to it. Since Hamas and Fatah now look like they want to play civil war with each other, I almost view the situation as nearly hopeless.

I'm not completely blaming the in-fighting on the Pals in general....the same thing has happened in countless territories and nations who found themselves annexed or colonized and ruled by brute military force by a foreign power just to be left without any semblance of adequate internal constitutionality left. Same thing is happening in Iraq.

But the time has come IMO for the Pals to unite and get their act together, and the gunfire in the streets Pal on Pal is only going to lose or erode world support for the Palestinian people as a whole and the goal of soveriegnty.

LandOfHypocrisy · Joined: 04 Apr 2005 Posts: 539

How about American Entrapreneurs come in and build a whole bunch of Chuck E. Cheeses. ....Regardless of political affiliation, everyone there seems to be having a lot of kids.

Kane · Joined: 27 Apr 2006 Posts: 12677 Location: Bay Area, CA

Well, I don't think either party at this time is able or willing to solve this situation...so let's do it. Send in a UN/EU/US peace keeping force along the Pre-1967 Borders and then lets see what happens...

Straudos · Joined: 12 Feb 2006 Posts: 466

There isn't a nation in the world that would risk its soldiers' lives by stationing them around Israel. Think Somalia.

Kane · Joined: 27 Apr 2006 Posts: 12677 Location: Bay Area, CA

Straudos wrote: There isn't a nation in the world that would risk its soldiers' lives by stationing them around Israel. Think Somalia.

In Somalia they ventured into the city...this would purely be on the border.

Secondary Oak · Joined: 02 Oct 2004 Posts: 3418 Location: Haifa

Kane wrote: Well, I don't think either party at this time is able or willing to solve this situation...so let's do it. Send in a UN/EU/US peace keeping force along the Pre-1967 Borders and then lets see what happens...
It's unlikely Israel would agree with any foreign power, international or not, sitting on the green line.

I know I would be furious if it will.

Straudos · Joined: 12 Feb 2006 Posts: 466

Quote: In Somalia they ventured into the city...this would purely be on the border. That won't stop some mortar attacks, etc. You underestimate how small the region really is. Any foreign power that goes in there to "keep the peace" will come out bloodied, even if it is just a few soldiers. That's all that is needed, though.

Gnostic · Posted: Sun May 28, 2006 4:30 pm Post subject:

Straudos wrote: There isn't a nation in the world that would risk its soldiers' lives by stationing them around Israel. Think Somalia.

It looks like peacekeeping soldiers are needed just to keep the Pals from killing each other, much less.

Kane · Joined: 27 Apr 2006 Posts: 12677 Location: Bay Area, CA

Secondary Oak wrote: Kane wrote: Well, I don't think either party at this time is able or willing to solve this situation...so let's do it. Send in a UN/EU/US peace keeping force along the Pre-1967 Borders and then lets see what happens...
It's unlikely Israel would agree with any foreign power, international or not, sitting on the green line.

I know I would be furious if it will.

Why? Your military could capitalize on the situation by still creating military blockades behind the UN/EU/US wall of troops...increasing the odds at which you'll apprehend any terrorists beforehand. I'm more or less interested in seeing how the Palestinians would react to a national peacekeeping force and how that force would be responding to any mortar/rocket attacks...

An international force such as that has the potential to dissuade daily militia attacks and force them to attempt to capitalize on terrorism...which would then fail catastrophically. All the Israeli beatings and killings of Palestinians the media likes to show in the Middle East would evaporate and be replaced with UN peacekeepers and their extreme restraint. Aggression would purely be on their part at that point...and there's a chance the various populations of the region would pick up on that.

Secondary Oak · Joined: 02 Oct 2004 Posts: 3418 Location: Haifa

Kane wrote: Secondary Oak wrote: It's unlikely Israel would agree with any foreign power, international or not, sitting on the green line.

I know I would be furious if it will.

Why?
Because the presence of another entity there will hinder Israel's ability to act, while contributing nothing (most likely) to Israel's security.

superskippy · Joined: 14 Jul 2005 Posts: 8680 Location: Petah Tikva

As well as the fact that we are a fiercly independent nation and we dont want tens of thousands of troops on our borders that could potentially hinder our actions by attempting to supercede or stop our own plans and actions.