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toddytodd
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| Posted: Tue Jun 13, 2006 7:51 am Post subject: |
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Plodder wrote: why does it matter?
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Plodder
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| Posted: Tue Jun 13, 2006 9:47 am Post subject: |
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| why was this thread here in the first place? |
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Enoch
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| Posted: Tue Jun 13, 2006 4:16 pm Post subject: |
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| AllAmericanMan wrote: Is the car a car when it first starts being built? Or does it become a car when its engine turns on? What if a headlight is out? What if 2 of the exact same car are made? It is not a car until such a point that it could operate as a car. Until then, it is a potential car. |
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Enoch
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| Posted: Tue Jun 13, 2006 4:19 pm Post subject: |
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AllAmericanMan wrote: Bottom line is all analogies to abortion are false. Unless youre dealing with someone ending the life of another individual then it can not ppossibly relate to abortion. A seed is not a human embryo, neither is cancer or anything else.
Wait...weren't you the one using the marathon analogy in other threads? Didn't you say that having an abortion is tantamount to disqualifying a marathon runner when they were only a few miles in? Sounds like an analogy to me. So, by your own claim, I guess it is false.
You may not want to use that one in the future then. |
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Plodder
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| Posted: Thu Jun 15, 2006 2:22 pm Post subject: |
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| Quote: It is not a car until such a point that it could operate as a car. Until then, it is a potential car actually it is a car that is being built. A car sketch is a potential cqar s=since it has no mass . it is only an idea. |
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toddytodd
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| Posted: Thu Jun 15, 2006 3:23 pm Post subject: |
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Plodder wrote: Quote: It is not a car until such a point that it could operate as a car. Until then, it is a potential car actually it is a car that is being built. A car sketch is a potential cqar s=since it has no mass . it is only an idea.
There is a difference between being operational and not. A car that can't run in the junk yard is still a car. A prototype car that is barely (and sometimes not at all) operational is still a car.
I don't think a car has to operate in the traditional sense to be considered a car. |
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AllAmericanMan
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| Posted: Thu Jun 15, 2006 3:58 pm Post subject: |
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| This debate is so dumbed down, must we continue with failed analogies? |
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Plodder
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| Posted: Fri Jun 16, 2006 11:53 pm Post subject: |
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| and that iis the key. analogy vs failed analogy. |
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