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Revenant
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| Posted: Mon May 22, 2006 7:45 pm Post subject: Best/Worst/Overrated U.S. Presidents |
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Pretty self-explanatory, simply post what you believe are the best/worst/most overrated president.
My picks:
Best: To be determined...
Worst: Andrew Jackson
Most Overrated: Franklin D. Roosevelt |
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eynon
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| Posted: Mon May 22, 2006 8:10 pm Post subject: Re: Best/Worst/Overrated U.S. Presidents |
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Renevant wrote: Pretty self-explanatory, simply post what you believe are the best/worst/most overrated president.
My picks:
Best: To be determined...
Worst: Andrew Jackson
Most Overrated: Franklin D. Roosevelt
Andrew Jackson the worst? how come?
mine:
Best- Jefferson
Worst- Grant/Bush/Harding
Most Overrated- JFK |
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Revenant
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| Posted: Mon May 22, 2006 8:14 pm Post subject: Re: Best/Worst/Overrated U.S. Presidents |
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Eynon81 wrote: Renevant wrote: Pretty self-explanatory, simply post what you believe are the best/worst/most overrated president.
My picks:
Best: To be determined...
Worst: Andrew Jackson
Most Overrated: Franklin D. Roosevelt
Andrew Jackson the worst? how come?
mine:
Best- Jefferson
Worst- Grant/Bush/Harding
Most Overrated- JFK
Ignoring the supreme court, destruction of the national bank, causing depressions, invention of the spoils system, not to mention the whole "you're not white now get the hell out" thing. I'm not a fan of genocidal psychotic tyrants in the Oval Office. |
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eynon
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| Posted: Mon May 22, 2006 8:24 pm Post subject: Re: Best/Worst/Overrated U.S. Presidents |
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Renevant wrote: Eynon81 wrote: Renevant wrote: Pretty self-explanatory, simply post what you believe are the best/worst/most overrated president.
My picks:
Best: To be determined...
Worst: Andrew Jackson
Most Overrated: Franklin D. Roosevelt
Andrew Jackson the worst? how come?
mine:
Best- Jefferson
Worst- Grant/Bush/Harding
Most Overrated- JFK
Ignoring the supreme court, destruction of the national bank, causing depressions, invention of the spoils system, not to mention the whole "you're not white now get the hell out" thing. I'm not a fan of genocidal psychotic tyrants in the Oval Office.
true, but he did make the system more democratic....plus genocide is such a harsh word, think of it more as "ethnic cleansing"..... |
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Politics Mstr
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| Posted: Mon May 22, 2006 11:15 pm Post subject: |
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Best: Abraham Lincoln
Worst: Jimmy Carter, maybe Ulysses S. Grant
Most overrated: Franklin D. Roosevelt |
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bigstick61
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| Posted: Tue May 23, 2006 1:16 am Post subject: |
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Best: T. Roosevelt, Reagan, Madison, Washington, JFK
Worst: Carter, FDR, Jackson (IMO, making the system more democratic was a bad thing), Buchanan, Wilson, Clinton, Bush Sr., both Johnsons
Most Overrated: Lincoln, FDR |
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Bobicito
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| Posted: Tue May 23, 2006 6:22 am Post subject: |
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Best: FDR
Worst: T. Roosevelt
Overated: JFK
Smartest: Clinton (until he made some poor decisions hehe) |
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micfranklin
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| Posted: Tue May 23, 2006 8:26 am Post subject: |
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Best - Washington (where would we be without him?)
Worst - Carter
Overrated - Lincoln |
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Kt
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| Posted: Tue May 23, 2006 8:46 am Post subject: Re: Best/Worst/Overrated U.S. Presidents |
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Eynon81 wrote: Renevant wrote: Eynon81 wrote: Renevant wrote: Pretty self-explanatory, simply post what you believe are the best/worst/most overrated president.
My picks:
Best: To be determined...
Worst: Andrew Jackson
Most Overrated: Franklin D. Roosevelt
Andrew Jackson the worst? how come?
mine:
Best- Jefferson
Worst- Grant/Bush/Harding
Most Overrated- JFK
Ignoring the supreme court, destruction of the national bank, causing depressions, invention of the spoils system, not to mention the whole "you're not white now get the hell out" thing. I'm not a fan of genocidal psychotic tyrants in the Oval Office.
true, but he did make the system more democratic....plus genocide is such a harsh word, think of it more as "ethnic cleansing".....
So killing thousands of the native inhabitants of the land you're stealing is democratic? I guess they forgot to vote then.
I agree, Andrew Jackson is the worst, I deface every 20$ I have, I hope he dies. Followed closely by Truman.
Best I'd have to say is Lincoln, He put a lot of his heart and soul into the nation, and the nation ate it up and asked for more. In the end he did well under the pressure of the union breaking, and fighting eachother... |
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Pebble
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Quote: I agree, Andrew Jackson is the worst, I deface every 20$ I have, I hope he dies.
He's been in his grave since 1845. I'd say that's a wasted curse. |
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Revenant
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| Posted: Tue May 23, 2006 3:51 pm Post subject: |
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Pebble wrote: Quote: I agree, Andrew Jackson is the worst, I deface every 20$ I have, I hope he dies.
He's been in his grave since 1845. I'd say that's a wasted curse.
Yeah...I was kinda thinking that too. |
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eynon
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| Posted: Tue May 23, 2006 4:08 pm Post subject: Re: Best/Worst/Overrated U.S. Presidents |
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Helena` wrote: Eynon81 wrote: Renevant wrote: Eynon81 wrote: Renevant wrote: Pretty self-explanatory, simply post what you believe are the best/worst/most overrated president.
My picks:
Best: To be determined...
Worst: Andrew Jackson
Most Overrated: Franklin D. Roosevelt
Andrew Jackson the worst? how come?
mine:
Best- Jefferson
Worst- Grant/Bush/Harding
Most Overrated- JFK
Ignoring the supreme court, destruction of the national bank, causing depressions, invention of the spoils system, not to mention the whole "you're not white now get the hell out" thing. I'm not a fan of genocidal psychotic tyrants in the Oval Office.
true, but he did make the system more democratic....plus genocide is such a harsh word, think of it more as "ethnic cleansing".....
So killing thousands of the native inhabitants of the land you're stealing is democratic?..
can be.....and in this cause it was, the decision to remove the American-Indians from the South-East was wildly popular among Jackson's constituents..... |
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bigstick61
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| Posted: Tue May 23, 2006 4:19 pm Post subject: |
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| A good demonstration as to why democracy is bad. |
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eynon
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| Posted: Tue May 23, 2006 6:20 pm Post subject: |
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bigstick61 wrote: A good demonstration as to why democracy is bad.
agreed, rule of law should beat rule of the mob any day.....in that case it did not.... |
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A Promise Kept
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Best: -Washington (first president)
- Reagan
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Worst- Clinton, Nixon, (all the Corruption era Progressives)
Pointless-William Henry Harrison
Overrated- JFK, Lincoln,
Not too bad-Truman, Eisenhower
Hypocrites- Jefferson |
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Revenant
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| Posted: Tue May 23, 2006 9:27 pm Post subject: |
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A Promise Kept wrote: Best: -Washington (first president)
- Reagan
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Worst- Clinton, Nixon, (all the Corruption era Progressives)
Pointless-William Henry Harrison
Overrated- JFK, Lincoln,
Not too bad-Truman, Eisenhower
Hypocrites- Jefferson
Agreed on Jefferson.
Out of office: No big government!
In office: Well...I'll just sorta...stretch the constitution a tad... |
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Gremlin
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Best - Washington
Worst - do i have to pic just one?
Most overrated - FDR
My favorite president has to be Ike, but mostly for what he did in the service. He saved countless allied lives in WWII. Someone might come along with some examples of where im wrong. Fact remains he was the commander on the western front on the winning side.
My grandfather was introduced to combat under his command on D-day and the following months. I might not be here if it wasnt for his brilliance against a much more capable force that had better equipment and much more experience in the theater of war. |
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edge9611
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| Posted: Thu May 25, 2006 11:41 am Post subject: |
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Best- Washington
setting the model for administering the government
or Lincoln
saving the union is more than most presidents ever did
Worst- Rutherford B. Hayes
Compromise of 1877 delayed civil rights reform for a century
Overrated- FDR
Created programs leading to the wealthfare class, allowed the Soviets to take over Eastern Europe leading to the Cold War, and never stopped the Depression (despite the perception that he did) until WWII started. I think he may be the Caesar of American history b/c he used government programs to buy popularity among the lower classes. |
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Marillion
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| Posted: Thu May 25, 2006 1:17 pm Post subject: |
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Best: FDR, Washington, Jefferson
Worst: Carter, Bush I and II
Overrated; Reagan, JFK, Lincoln |
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eynon
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| Posted: Thu May 25, 2006 5:37 pm Post subject: |
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edge9611 wrote: Best- Washington
setting the model for administering the government
or Lincoln
saving the union is more than most presidents ever did
Worst- Rutherford B. Hayes
Compromise of 1877 delayed civil rights reform for a century
Overrated- FDR
Created programs leading to the wealthfare class, allowed the Soviets to take over Eastern Europe leading to the Cold War, and never stopped the Depression (despite the perception that he did) until WWII started. I think he may be the Caesar of American history b/c he used government programs to buy popularity among the lower classes.
Hayes is a great bad president :) |
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