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War Lord · Joined: 29 Mar 2006 Posts: 367

I am going to teach youth 14-18 Shotgun and Rifle shooting this summer and I seem to be getting a lot of flack about it, such as, people say I am like Hitler in some way, and that I should be ashamed of myself for such horrendous things.

I don't get it, a Rifle or a shotgun are just a mechanical hunting weapon, the person behind the trigger is the interactive thing in our world. what about the cars they are far more deadly than a properly used fire arm.

Why am I getting so much flack for teaching Fire arm safty?

beachbum bob

War Lord wrote: I am going to teach youth 14-18 Shotgun and Rifle shooting this summer and I seem to be getting a lot of flack about it, such as, people say I am like Hitler in some way, and that I should be ashamed of myself for such horrendous things.

I don't get it, a Rifle or a shotgun are just a mechanical hunting weapon, the person behind the trigger is the interactive thing in our world. what about the cars they are far more deadly than a properly used fire arm.

Why am I getting so much flack for teaching Fire arm safty?

consider the source...
I had my first .22 when I was 10yrs old....and hunted when I was 12...my dad taught me how to shoot, gun safety..same has his dad taught him....
mamby-pampy mentality.....

Silkheat · Joined: 06 Sep 2005 Posts: 5981 Location: Austin

War Lord wrote: I am going to teach youth 14-18 Shotgun and Rifle shooting this summer and I seem to be getting a lot of flack about it, such as, people say I am like Hitler in some way, and that I should be ashamed of myself for such horrendous things.

I don't get it, a Rifle or a shotgun are just a mechanical hunting weapon, the person behind the trigger is the interactive thing in our world. what about the cars they are far more deadly than a properly used fire arm.

Why am I getting so much flack for teaching Fire arm safty?

There is absolutely nothing wrong with teaching young people how to properly fire fire arms.

Don't worry about what whining idiots say to you. Those people live in a bubble where they don't want anyone to have freedom. If revolution ever comes they'll be the first to die.

bob.appleyard · Joined: 15 Oct 2005 Posts: 7747 Location: Manchestar, innit

You've got some very emotional acquaintances! In a proper environment, a 14-18 year old will handle it fine.

It's not like you're training a child army to take over Texas.

Is it?

Winchester · Joined: 23 Aug 2005 Posts: 7649 Location: Montana

War Lord wrote: I am going to teach youth 14-18 Shotgun and Rifle shooting this summer and I seem to be getting a lot of flack about it, such as, people say I am like Hitler in some way, and that I should be ashamed of myself for such horrendous things.

I don't get it, a Rifle or a shotgun are just a mechanical hunting weapon, the person behind the trigger is the interactive thing in our world. what about the cars they are far more deadly than a properly used fire arm.

Why am I getting so much flack for teaching Fire arm safty?

You're from Texas and your getting flack for it? From who?

thefranzkafkafront · Posted: Thu May 18, 2006 5:47 pm Post subject:

Nothing is wrong with it, whats the point of this thread though?

War Lord · Joined: 29 Mar 2006 Posts: 367

True words from all of you. but this is causing a serious rifts in my employment from others, I been threatened with a lawsuit (I know it is B.S.) but still why would anybody compear a volonteer that works with youth and loves life with Hitler I don't get it.

Thanks for your words of encoragement

GTTofAK · Joined: 09 Jan 2005 Posts: 5968 Location: Alaska

It wrong because people who know how to use guns are against gun control.

beachbum bob · Posted: Thu May 18, 2006 5:49 pm Post subject:

War Lord wrote: True words from all of you. but this is causing a serious rifts in my employment from others, I been threatened with a lawsuit (I know it is B.S.) but still why would anybody compear a volonteer that works with youth and loves life with Hitler I don't get it.

Thanks for your words of encoragement

lawsuit?? based on what??

War Lord · Joined: 29 Mar 2006 Posts: 367

thefranzkafkafront wrote: Nothing is wrong with it, whats the point of this thread though? I ma tring to find people with the opposite opinion of yours and pose the same question, I would like a debate with somebody opposed to my lessons, thanks for your input.

War Lord · Joined: 29 Mar 2006 Posts: 367

beachbum bob wrote: War Lord wrote: True words from all of you. but this is causing a serious rifts in my employment from others, I been threatened with a lawsuit (I know it is B.S.) but still why would anybody compear a volonteer that works with youth and loves life with Hitler I don't get it.

Thanks for your words of encoragement

lawsuit?? based on what?? My question too, but why would anybody say that to somebody?

Silkheat · Joined: 06 Sep 2005 Posts: 5981 Location: Austin

GTTofAK wrote: It wrong because people who know how to use guns are against gun control.

I don't hunt because I don't care for game meat, but target shooting is an excelent past time.

I fish and no one ever told me that it isn't ok to teach kids to fish.

Winchester · Joined: 23 Aug 2005 Posts: 7649 Location: Montana

War Lord wrote: True words from all of you. but this is causing a serious rifts in my employment from others, I been threatened with a lawsuit (I know it is B.S.) but still why would anybody compear a volonteer that works with youth and loves life with Hitler I don't get it.

Thanks for your words of encoragement

Are you teaching the kids without their parents permission? You're going to have to explain a little bit more cause nothing you've claimed makes any sense.

Dookiestix · Posted: Thu May 18, 2006 5:52 pm Post subject:

War Lord wrote: True words from all of you. but this is causing a serious rifts in my employment from others, I been threatened with a lawsuit (I know it is B.S.) but still why would anybody compear a volonteer that works with youth and loves life with Hitler I don't get it.

Thanks for your words of encoragement
Who the hell would file a lawsuit against you for doing something that seems on the surface completely lawful? That's just ridiculous. What's the name of the organization that sponsors the program you're volunteering for?

Dookiestix · Posted: Thu May 18, 2006 5:54 pm Post subject:

Silkheat wrote: GTTofAK wrote: It wrong because people who know how to use guns are against gun control.

I don't hunt because I don't care for game meat, but target shooting is an excelent past time.

I fish and no one ever told me that it isn't ok to teach kids to fish.
I've gone to the local shooting range down in Daly City with a friend of mine who owns several guns (.45 and a .9 millimeter) and had a blast. It's better to understand these weapons and their brute destructiveness if one is to be responsible about firearms, IMHO. Personally, I don't own a firearm, and probably never will. But I'm not one to tell others what they can or cannot do regarding their 2nd amendment rights.

Quell · Joined: 06 Jan 2006 Posts: 6842

Im not a big fan of hunting (just dont really like it, nothing ethicaly wrong about it); however I LOVE target shooting, and skeet. The people getting pissed are idiots..plain and simple.

Winchester · Joined: 23 Aug 2005 Posts: 7649 Location: Montana

Quell wrote: Im not a big fan of hunting (just dont really like it, nothing ethicaly wrong about it); however I LOVE target shooting, and skeet. The people getting pissed are idiots..plain and simple.

What is unethical about "fair chase" hunting?

FAIR CHASE STATEMENT
FAIR CHASE, as defined by the Boone and Crockett Club, is the ethical, sportsmanlike, and lawful pursuit and taking of any free-ranging wild, native North American big game animal in a manner that does not give the hunter an improper advantage over such animals.

Quell · Joined: 06 Jan 2006 Posts: 6842

Winchester wrote: Quell wrote: Im not a big fan of hunting (just dont really like it, nothing ethicaly wrong about it); however I LOVE target shooting, and skeet. The people getting pissed are idiots..plain and simple.

What is unethical about "fair chase" hunting?

FAIR CHASE STATEMENT
FAIR CHASE, as defined by the Boone and Crockett Club, is the ethical, sportsmanlike, and lawful pursuit and taking of any free-ranging wild, native North American big game animal in a manner that does not give the hunter an improper advantage over such animals.

Read it again.

Winchester · Joined: 23 Aug 2005 Posts: 7649 Location: Montana

Quell wrote: Winchester wrote: Quell wrote: Im not a big fan of hunting (just dont really like it, nothing ethicaly wrong about it); however I LOVE target shooting, and skeet. The people getting pissed are idiots..plain and simple.

What is unethical about "fair chase" hunting?

FAIR CHASE STATEMENT
FAIR CHASE, as defined by the Boone and Crockett Club, is the ethical, sportsmanlike, and lawful pursuit and taking of any free-ranging wild, native North American big game animal in a manner that does not give the hunter an improper advantage over such animals.

Read it again.

My bad :!oops:

I'm too use to having to defend my hunting to non-hunters, my appologies.

bob.appleyard · Joined: 15 Oct 2005 Posts: 7747 Location: Manchestar, innit

"in a manner that does not give the hunter an improper advantage over such animals"

I'm thinking spear, max. Maybe a crude bow.