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dtwizzy2k5 · Joined: 03 Apr 2006 Posts: 467

There was an article in the Health section of the washington post yesterday titled "Is teen sex bad?"

Basically, it compared views on sex in america compared to western europe (europe is way more accepting of teen sex and views it as normal and pleasurably instead of wrong and bad).

Is teen sex bad? How about sex before marriage in general?

Personally, im divided on the issue so id like to hear your thoughts...

feederband · Joined: 26 Jan 2006 Posts: 4156 Location: Florida

I wish I would of had more of it... :wink:

snow · Joined: 06 Jul 2005 Posts: 669

Generally, I don't think it's appropriate because teenagers aren't responsible enough to have safe sex and often can't deal with the after effects. What I mean by that is, often, a guy said I love you, let's have sex, the woman bought into it, then the guy moved on to the next girl, which caused some emotional issues in the girl.

perdidochas · Joined: 06 Mar 2006 Posts: 15424 Location: Florida

dtwizzy2k5 wrote: There was an article in the Health section of the washington post yesterday titled "Is teen sex bad?"

Basically, it compared views on sex in america compared to western europe (europe is way more accepting of teen sex and views it as normal and pleasurably instead of wrong and bad).

Is teen sex bad? How about sex before marriage in general?

Personally, im divided on the issue so id like to hear your thoughts...

Teen sex is bad (yes, it is an important drive, and it is enjoyable, but it's not healthy, either physically or emotionally). The problem is that modern living conditions have our bodies ready for sex way before our emotions are mature enough to be ready for it. Also, ironically, teens in Europe wait to later ages on average to have sex. They also have FEWER sexual partners on average. It's not like they have these attitudes and use them. The average age for first sexual experience in the U.S. is 17.4. In France, it's 18, in the Netherlands, it's 17.9.

Anyway, my general view is that the fewer sexual partners a person (male or female) has, the better off they are. I believe that each act of sex is a form of bonding. If bonding occurs with too many different people, that bonding becomes weaker and weaker.

feederband · Joined: 26 Jan 2006 Posts: 4156 Location: Florida

One thing for sure they are having it younger and more often now than back in my day...Plus the girls were never built like they are today...

dtwizzy2k5 · Joined: 03 Apr 2006 Posts: 467

feederband wrote: One thing for sure they are having it younger and more often now than back in my day...Plus the girls were never built like they are today...

You can thank evolution by artificial selection for that....
nobody wants to reproduce with the ugly girls :wink:

feederband · Joined: 26 Jan 2006 Posts: 4156 Location: Florida

dtwizzy2k5 wrote: feederband wrote: One thing for sure they are having it younger and more often now than back in my day...Plus the girls were never built like they are today...

You can thank evolution by artificial selection for that....
nobody wants to reproduce with the ugly girls :wink:

Man I tell you its sad of corse that I say these things but my teenage sons bring home girls and I'm like where was that when I was there age...?

perdidochas · Joined: 06 Mar 2006 Posts: 15424 Location: Florida

dtwizzy2k5 wrote: feederband wrote: One thing for sure they are having it younger and more often now than back in my day...Plus the girls were never built like they are today...

You can thank evolution by artificial selection for that....
nobody wants to reproduce with the ugly girls :wink:

You've obviously never been in a Wal-Mart in a rough part of town. Ugly girls have no problem bearing ugly children.......

feederband · Joined: 26 Jan 2006 Posts: 4156 Location: Florida

perdidochas wrote: dtwizzy2k5 wrote: feederband wrote: One thing for sure they are having it younger and more often now than back in my day...Plus the girls were never built like they are today...

You can thank evolution by artificial selection for that....
nobody wants to reproduce with the ugly girls :wink:

You've obviously never been in a Wal-Mart in a rough part of town. Ugly girls have no problem bearing ugly children.......

Yeah, what with them wal-mart girls.?

perdidochas · Joined: 06 Mar 2006 Posts: 15424 Location: Florida

My first thought upon seeing the name of the thread was:

For the girl, usually.......

dtwizzy2k5 · Joined: 03 Apr 2006 Posts: 467

well since this thread is in the religion forum, what do you all think from a religious perspective?
it seems like every major religion condemns sex before marriage but is that a true statement or an unfounded one?
i know the bible is a bit unclear about sex before marriage and some say it is mistranslated but what do u all think?

Kt · Joined: 23 Jan 2006 Posts: 3806

perdidochas wrote: dtwizzy2k5 wrote: feederband wrote: One thing for sure they are having it younger and more often now than back in my day...Plus the girls were never built like they are today...

You can thank evolution by artificial selection for that....
nobody wants to reproduce with the ugly girls :wink:

You've obviously never been in a Wal-Mart in a rough part of town. Ugly girls have no problem bearing ugly children.......
I think he's talking about how girls are physically maturing younger than in the past. Perhaps a result from all the s**t in the dairy people eat and drink.

John Galt · Joined: 04 May 2004 Posts: 21655 Location: Minnesota

Yes, it is. Pysically you are prepared for it, but mentally and emotionally you are not. I am the first to admit that me saying this is because of personal experiences. I had crazy, crazy years. But I objectified women, I lost the emotional bond for sex, and I did it all for myself. Looking back, it saddens me. So when you tell your kids to not have sex before marriage, you are really telling them to not do it before they are emotionally and mentally mature enough to engage in a true intercourse with someone that includes the bonds formed beyond the carnal. Focusing just on the flesh hurts people (well it can at least) and is not as fulfilling as it should be.

John · Joined: 02 Jun 2004 Posts: 24244

John Galt wrote: Yes, it is. Pysically you are prepared for it, but mentally and emotionally you are not. I am the first to admit that me saying this is because of personal experiences. I had crazy, crazy years. But I objectified women, I lost the emotional bond for sex, and I did it all for myself. Looking back, it saddens me. So when you tell your kids to not have sex before marriage, you are really telling them to not do it before they are emotionally and mentally mature enough to engage in a true intercourse with someone that includes the bonds formed beyond the carnal. Focusing just on the flesh hurts people (well it can at least) and is not as fulfilling as it should be.

Sounds like that Christian woman is talking some sense into you. :-D

eynon · Posted: Tue May 16, 2006 6:26 pm Post subject:

John Galt wrote: Yes, it is. Pysically you are prepared for it, but mentally and emotionally you are not. I am the first to admit that me saying this is because of personal experiences. I had crazy, crazy years. But I objectified women, I lost the emotional bond for sex, and I did it all for myself. Looking back, it saddens me. So when you tell your kids to not have sex before marriage, you are really telling them to not do it before they are emotionally and mentally mature enough to engage in a true intercourse with someone that includes the bonds formed beyond the carnal. Focusing just on the flesh hurts people (well it can at least) and is not as fulfilling as it should be.

I agree.......more-over, let me answer your question with another question, Are teenage parents bad?

feederband · Joined: 26 Jan 2006 Posts: 4156 Location: Florida

Eynon81 wrote: John Galt wrote: Yes, it is. Pysically you are prepared for it, but mentally and emotionally you are not. I am the first to admit that me saying this is because of personal experiences. I had crazy, crazy years. But I objectified women, I lost the emotional bond for sex, and I did it all for myself. Looking back, it saddens me. So when you tell your kids to not have sex before marriage, you are really telling them to not do it before they are emotionally and mentally mature enough to engage in a true intercourse with someone that includes the bonds formed beyond the carnal. Focusing just on the flesh hurts people (well it can at least) and is not as fulfilling as it should be.

I agree.......more-over, let me answer your question with another question, Are teenage parents bad?

Some are some ain't reword your question..

Snarf · Joined: 10 Jan 2005 Posts: 5459

Is teen sex bad? Only if you don't know what you're doing, but spending a few weeks worth of time laughing and fumbling around under the covers was great fun, especially during the daily misery that was high school. The key is to find a nice partner, keep your sense of humor, and learn as you go. This is the only part of 13 to 21 that I would ever go through again, and I had some great time with some great girls. God bless them all...

eynon · Posted: Tue May 16, 2006 7:08 pm Post subject:

feederband wrote: Eynon81 wrote: John Galt wrote: Yes, it is. Pysically you are prepared for it, but mentally and emotionally you are not. I am the first to admit that me saying this is because of personal experiences. I had crazy, crazy years. But I objectified women, I lost the emotional bond for sex, and I did it all for myself. Looking back, it saddens me. So when you tell your kids to not have sex before marriage, you are really telling them to not do it before they are emotionally and mentally mature enough to engage in a true intercourse with someone that includes the bonds formed beyond the carnal. Focusing just on the flesh hurts people (well it can at least) and is not as fulfilling as it should be.

I agree.......more-over, let me answer your question with another question, Are teenage parents bad?

Some are some ain't reword your question..

ok, are teenagers having babies a good thing?

eynon · Posted: Tue May 16, 2006 7:11 pm Post subject:

Snarf wrote: Is teen sex bad? Only if you don't know what you're doing, but spending a few weeks worth of time laughing and fumbling around under the covers was great fun, especially during the daily misery that was high school. The key is to find a nice partner, keep your sense of humor, and learn as you go. This is the only part of 13 to 21 that I would ever go through again, and I had some great time with some great girls. God bless them all...

you know....I have a hard time disagreeing with you on that. The innocent experiementing was by in large harmless and fun. Now in terms of hardcore teen playas and hos...well that seems pretty unhealthy to me.

Plus I think that 13-15 is pretty damn young to be doing anything serious.

MJB · Joined: 14 Apr 2006 Posts: 594

I would have to say that it is sex outside of marriage that is bad, and that teen sex is bad for those who are not mature enough to take on marriage.

Being physically ready for sex, is a far cry from being emotionally mature enough for it.

I would have to say that the primary reason most teens are not emotionally ready, is because they are not expected to be, and they are not taught to be, the way they were in generations past.

Can teens be mature enough physically and emotionally? Of course they can. But - it's been made pretty hard in our society today. Aside from having low expectations for our youth in this regard, it's not easy to make a decent living and support a family without a degree, which often means postponing marriage.

Even so - some do marry young, and work, and go to school, and start their family at a young age, and do fine, in spite of obstacles. But I must conclude that they are the ones who have been taught, and learned, what mature behavior is all about, and are likely the exceptions in our society, in our time.