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Robodoon · Joined: 12 Nov 2005 Posts: 5027 Location: Lakeport

Why do you support Islam?

Islam is the biggest Slaver of black people on the PLANET.

Mohammad calls you "rasinheads".

And according to Islam; you can't get into Heaven.

Now if I'm wrong on these things, please let me know. :-D ...but have you really been paying attention or seeking pride. :( ...all colors seek it...don't feel bad. :wink: ...I find myself doing it as well at times...but it doesn't make it correct.

Snarf · Joined: 10 Jan 2005 Posts: 5376

Robodoon wrote:
And according to Islam; you can't get into Heaven.

Most Christians say the same thing about everyone but those who attend their version of church. If Islam is full of crap at times, that should not surprise anyone as Christianity not only approved of slavery, it actively supported it...

Robodoon · Joined: 12 Nov 2005 Posts: 5027 Location: Lakeport

Snarf wrote: Robodoon wrote:
And according to Islam; you can't get into Heaven.

Most Christians say the same thing about everyone but those who attend their version of church. If Islam is full of crap at times, that should not surprise anyone as Christianity not only approved of slavery, it actively supported it...

What are men and what is pride?

What does the Bible say?
Who was the major push for the freeing of the black slaves in the USA?
Who calls "all" men?

Who holds Christians as slaves today?
Who are we told hit our towers?
What do they do to their women?

Who does our government, the USA, call the religion of peace? while not looking at our birth. :cry:

Tricks....many of them...see through them. :wink:

frunabulax · Joined: 24 Dec 2005 Posts: 132

Sabra and Shatila massacres. Recent enough for you?

frunabulax · Joined: 24 Dec 2005 Posts: 132

How bout some quotes?

Quote: Randall Terry , founder of Operation Rescue:
“I want you to let a wave of hatred wash over you. Yes, hate is good… Our goal is a Christian Nation. We have a Biblical duty; we are called by God, to conquer this country. We don’t want equal time. We don’t want pluralism. ”

Quote: Ralph Reed, former executive director of the Christian Coalition:
“I do guerrilla warfare. I paint my face and travel at night. You don’t know until you’re in a body bag. You don’t know till election night.”

Quote: Pat Robertson, GOP presidential candidate, 1988:
“When the Christian majority takes over this country, there will be no more satanic churches, no more free distribution of pornography, no more abortion on demand, and no more talk of rights for homosexuals. After the Christian majority takes control, pluralism will be seen as immoral and evil and the state will not allow anyone to practice it. ”

The only reason muslims are so out of control is because they don't have strong and vocal secular institutions to keep them in check, like we do in the states.

Addison · Joined: 08 Mar 2006 Posts: 126

You all need to desperately seperate religious doctrine and teachings from culture and Church declarations.
All following quotes are from the book Familiar Quotations, by John Bartlett--13th and Centennial Edition (1955).

The Qu'ran (Koran), Chap. 4, Ibid:
"O men, respect women who have borne you."
Chap. 35:
"If God should punish men according to what they deserve, he would not leave on the back of the earth so much as a beast."
Chap. 4
"God loveth not the speaking ill of any one in public."

The Bible:
Corinthians 9:22:
"I am made all things to ALL men."
Corinthians 11:15:
"If a woman have long hair, it is a glory to her."
John 13:24
"A new commandment I give unto you, that ye love one another."
Jeremiah 34:16
"Then you turned around and profaned My name, and every one of you brought back his male and female slaves, whom you had set at liberty, at their pleasure, and brought them back into subjection, to be your male and female slaves."
Ephesians 6:8
"Knowing that whatever good anyone does, he will receive the same from the Lord, whether he is a slave or free."

There is also one somewhere in Ezekiel or Jeremiah (Later OT, somewhere) which demands masters, if they should keep there slaves, must treat them with liberties and dignity, like any other man--for all are servants to the Lord.

And, you must remember what slavery was then. Slaves were more what we know as indentured servants than slaves. In Roman times, to be made a slave was a merciful act, as many slaves came from war and it was that or be slaughtered. Slaves could gain Roman citizenship, could own businesses, property, were entitled several meals a day, days off, etc. Some slaves did no more than go to school to take notes for their master's sons. Slavery as a result from the Triangle Trade routes of the 17th through 19th centuries was much worse, and had never before hand been like this. But, the thought of treating slaves as we did to the Africans in our American history to the ancient societies was practically unthinkable.

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Robodoon wrote: Snarf wrote: Robodoon wrote:
And according to Islam; you can't get into Heaven.

Most Christians say the same thing about everyone but those who attend their version of church. If Islam is full of crap at times, that should not surprise anyone as Christianity not only approved of slavery, it actively supported it...

What are men and what is pride?

What does the Bible say?
Who was the major push for the freeing of the black slaves in the USA?
Who calls "all" men?

Who holds Christians as slaves today?
Who are we told hit our towers?
What do they do to their women?

Who does our government, the USA, call the religion of peace? while not looking at our birth. :cry:

Tricks....many of them...see through them. :wink:

Idiocy...a lot of it....see through it!

A member makes a perfectly good criticism of your argument and you ignore it completely. Instead you ask a range of bullsh*t rhetorical questions, which neither deflect his criticism nor strenghten your argument.

Christianity is as bad a religion as any - as tainted as Islam and if not even more, given its history..*cough*..the Crusades!

Prole · Joined: 02 May 2005 Posts: 2259 Location: Edinburgh

Where does it say that blacks can't get into heaven?

mendosan · Joined: 02 May 2006 Posts: 2615

Quote: Christianity is as bad a religion as any - as tainted as Islam and if not even more, given its history..*cough*..the Crusades!

Go and read about the causes of the crusades they were partialy religious, not fully.

thefranzkafkafront · Posted: Tue May 23, 2006 4:01 pm Post subject:

Prole wrote: Where does it say that blacks can't get into heaven?

Why don't you just shut up, robodoon neither needs nor cares for evidence.

I'd be facinated to know how this qualifies as philosophy as well.

Robodoon · Joined: 12 Nov 2005 Posts: 5027 Location: Lakeport

frunabulax wrote: Sabra and Shatila massacres. Recent enough for you?

please expand.

Robodoon · Joined: 12 Nov 2005 Posts: 5027 Location: Lakeport

frunabulax wrote: How bout some quotes?

Quote: Randall Terry , founder of Operation Rescue:
“I want you to let a wave of hatred wash over you. Yes, hate is good… Our goal is a Christian Nation. We have a Biblical duty; we are called by God, to conquer this country. We don’t want equal time. We don’t want pluralism. ”

Quote: Ralph Reed, former executive director of the Christian Coalition:
“I do guerrilla warfare. I paint my face and travel at night. You don’t know until you’re in a body bag. You don’t know till election night.”

Quote: Pat Robertson, GOP presidential candidate, 1988:
“When the Christian majority takes over this country, there will be no more satanic churches, no more free distribution of pornography, no more abortion on demand, and no more talk of rights for homosexuals. After the Christian majority takes control, pluralism will be seen as immoral and evil and the state will not allow anyone to practice it. ”

The only reason muslims are so out of control is because they don't have strong and vocal secular institutions to keep them in check, like we do in the states.

but aren't those political fronts? The Muslims are out of Control because the Elites ramped them up using groups like the CIA to do it.

But his post is about why black people would look to Islam, when Mohammad rejectsed them.

Robodoon · Joined: 12 Nov 2005 Posts: 5027 Location: Lakeport

Addison wrote: You all need to desperately seperate religious doctrine and teachings from culture and Church declarations.
All following quotes are from the book Familiar Quotations, by John Bartlett--13th and Centennial Edition (1955).

The Qu'ran (Koran), Chap. 4, Ibid:
"O men, respect women who have borne you."
Chap. 35:
"If God should punish men according to what they deserve, he would not leave on the back of the earth so much as a beast."
Chap. 4
"God loveth not the speaking ill of any one in public."

The Bible:
Corinthians 9:22:
"I am made all things to ALL men."
Corinthians 11:15:
"If a woman have long hair, it is a glory to her."
John 13:24
"A new commandment I give unto you, that ye love one another."
Jeremiah 34:16
"Then you turned around and profaned My name, and every one of you brought back his male and female slaves, whom you had set at liberty, at their pleasure, and brought them back into subjection, to be your male and female slaves."
Ephesians 6:8
"Knowing that whatever good anyone does, he will receive the same from the Lord, whether he is a slave or free."

There is also one somewhere in Ezekiel or Jeremiah (Later OT, somewhere) which demands masters, if they should keep there slaves, must treat them with liberties and dignity, like any other man--for all are servants to the Lord.

And, you must remember what slavery was then. Slaves were more what we know as indentured servants than slaves. In Roman times, to be made a slave was a merciful act, as many slaves came from war and it was that or be slaughtered. Slaves could gain Roman citizenship, could own businesses, property, were entitled several meals a day, days off, etc. Some slaves did no more than go to school to take notes for their master's sons. Slavery as a result from the Triangle Trade routes of the 17th through 19th centuries was much worse, and had never before hand been like this. But, the thought of treating slaves as we did to the Africans in our American history to the ancient societies was practically unthinkable.

And islam still holds Christians are "real" slaves today.
Christianity offered the world hope, Islam offers Jihad....more so today because of the Elite interests who have a new world religion for the world, and seek to destroy all monotheism from the planet. Really the Jews, Christians and Muslims, should be fighting our common enemy, not each other.

Robodoon · Joined: 12 Nov 2005 Posts: 5027 Location: Lakeport

Prole wrote: Where does it say that blacks can't get into heaven?

Sura 3:106,107

Robodoon · Joined: 12 Nov 2005 Posts: 5027 Location: Lakeport

Prole wrote: Where does it say that blacks can't get into heaven?

Sura 3:106,107

Robodoon · Joined: 12 Nov 2005 Posts: 5027 Location: Lakeport

mendosan wrote: Quote: Christianity is as bad a religion as any - as tainted as Islam and if not even more, given its history..*cough*..the Crusades!

Go and read about the causes of the crusades they were partialy religious, not fully.

The Crusades was the Muslims fault, they attacked the Christians for 400 years, till the Christians said enough, and then a 100 years later Islam kicked the Christians butts again.

Would you have rather the Christians be slaughtered and enslaved for another 100 years before they acted.... how long would America allow it self to be attacked...opps, let me rephase that, if America had Leadership that loved America, how long would America allowed attack before reacting.

Robodoon · Joined: 12 Nov 2005 Posts: 5027 Location: Lakeport

thefranzkafkafront wrote: Prole wrote: Where does it say that blacks can't get into heaven?

Why don't you just shut up, robodoon neither needs nor cares for evidence.

I'd be facinated to know how this qualifies as philosophy as well.

Sheees, ask a question :roll:

Robodoon · Joined: 12 Nov 2005 Posts: 5027 Location: Lakeport

social wrote: Robodoon wrote: Snarf wrote: Robodoon wrote:
And according to Islam; you can't get into Heaven.

Most Christians say the same thing about everyone but those who attend their version of church. If Islam is full of crap at times, that should not surprise anyone as Christianity not only approved of slavery, it actively supported it...

What are men and what is pride?

What does the Bible say?
Who was the major push for the freeing of the black slaves in the USA?
Who calls "all" men?

Who holds Christians as slaves today?
Who are we told hit our towers?
What do they do to their women?

Who does our government, the USA, call the religion of peace? while not looking at our birth. :cry:

Tricks....many of them...see through them. :wink:

Idiocy...a lot of it....see through it!

A member makes a perfectly good criticism of your argument and you ignore it completely. Instead you ask a range of bullsh*t rhetorical questions, which neither deflect his criticism nor strenghten your argument.

Christianity is as bad a religion as any - as tainted as Islam and if not even more, given its history..*cough*..the Crusades!

Well saying Christians actively support slavery is silly. Islam holds Christians as slaves today, Christians don't, they offered freedom to the world, Islam would have never done that, Islam likes Theocracy states, Christians offered freedom of religion to others.

thefranzkafkafront · Posted: Tue May 23, 2006 6:19 pm Post subject:

Robodoon wrote: Prole wrote: Where does it say that blacks can't get into heaven?

Sura 3:106,107

Quote: "On the day when some faces will be whitened and some faces will be blackened, say to those whose faces will be blackened, 'Did ye reject faith after accepting it? Taste then the penalty for rejecting faith.' But those whose faces will be whitened, they will be in God's mercy: therein to dwell." (Sura Al-i-Imran, 3:106-107)

Notice the key word 'when' (please do rush to dig up other translations to try and prove me wrong you'll find diffrent varients such as)

Quote: [3:106] The day will come when some faces will be brightened (with joy), while other faces will be darkened (with misery). As for those whose faces are darkened, they will be asked, "Did you not disbelieve after believing? Therefore, suffer the retribution for your disbelief."

[3:107] As for those whose faces are brightened, they will rejoice in GOD's mercy; they abide therein forever.

sounds just like any escatological parable out of the gospel of mathew.

Subsitute blackened for goats, or weeds and you have yourself either the parable of the wheat (mathew 13 24-30) or sheep and goats (mathew 25 31-46)

Text book escatology nothing more.

So ready to admit your wrong?

LordMortis · Joined: 21 May 2006 Posts: 33

[quote=social]Idiocy...a lot of it....see through it!

A member makes a perfectly good criticism of your argument and you ignore it completely. Instead you ask a range of bullsh*t rhetorical questions, which neither deflect his criticism nor strenghten your argument.

Christianity is as bad a religion as any - as tainted as Islam and if not even more, given its history..*cough*..the Crusades![/quote]

*cough* 9/11 *cough* blowing up each others' mosques...

Believe me, I am not for the Crusades. However, they were an insult to Christianity as it should be. Also, there is no such thing as a bad religion(with the exception of Satanism and some cult religions), only religions twisted to one's corrupt desires.