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eynon · Posted: Thu May 11, 2006 5:56 pm Post subject: Arab Dark Age?

To quote pharaoh
Quote: we are living in some kind of dark ages that people tend to apply laws on children without any kind of consideration of their age or whether the punishment is even lawful.

People, dont get shocked if these things are happening, the arab world is living in a complete breakdown for atleast 3 hundred years. These things happen in poor and backward (in terms of poor education) societies.

an interesting statement.....I would love to see people talk about this idea, and more importantly ways they feel the Arab world could reverse this current state of affairs.

Duchifas · Joined: 22 Jun 2004 Posts: 9950

Eynon81 wrote: To quote pharaoh
Quote: we are living in some kind of dark ages that people tend to apply laws on children without any kind of consideration of their age or whether the punishment is even lawful.

People, dont get shocked if these things are happening, the arab world is living in a complete breakdown for atleast 3 hundred years. These things happen in poor and backward (in terms of poor education) societies.

an interesting statement.....I would love to see people talk about this idea, and more importantly ways they feel the Arab world could reverse this current state of affairs.

pharaoh admitted this? This I gotta see!

cap'n queasy · Joined: 15 May 2004 Posts: 34968

Eynon81 wrote: To quote pharaoh
Quote: we are living in some kind of dark ages that people tend to apply laws on children without any kind of consideration of their age or whether the punishment is even lawful.

People, dont get shocked if these things are happening, the arab world is living in a complete breakdown for atleast 3 hundred years. These things happen in poor and backward (in terms of poor education) societies.

an interesting statement.....I would love to see people talk about this idea, and more importantly ways they feel the Arab world could reverse this current state of affairs.

They could lay down their hate. It's eating them up.

Blinky · Joined: 18 Mar 2006 Posts: 2522

Why not try what people here do when they don't like the justice system or any other societal system (take to the streets and demand change or vote for progressive leaders). Maybe they don't want to change?

psholtz · Joined: 15 Feb 2004 Posts: 23468 Location: California

The entire planet is living in a Dark Age..

In fact, times have *never* been as Dark for the human race as they are right now..

Dagger · Joined: 25 Apr 2005 Posts: 459 Location: Vancouver BC

cap'n queasy wrote: Eynon81 wrote: To quote pharaoh
Quote: we are living in some kind of dark ages that people tend to apply laws on children without any kind of consideration of their age or whether the punishment is even lawful.

People, dont get shocked if these things are happening, the arab world is living in a complete breakdown for atleast 3 hundred years. These things happen in poor and backward (in terms of poor education) societies.

an interesting statement.....I would love to see people talk about this idea, and more importantly ways they feel the Arab world could reverse this current state of affairs.

They could lay down their hate. It's eating them up.

Amen to that. But it requires education, teaching them that west isnt out to destroy them, it can be done believe it or not. And Educating Osama to kill Russians isnt the type of education im talking about

Bombing the s**t out of them really isnt helping also.

Blinky · Joined: 18 Mar 2006 Posts: 2522

psholtz wrote: The entire planet is living in a Dark Age..

In fact, times have *never* been as Dark for the human race as they are right now..

Good suggestion. :wink:

LandOfHypocrisy · Joined: 04 Apr 2005 Posts: 539

One time this four year old was trying to steal my candy bar. ...I kicked that little sucker right in the nutz.

That's street justice biatch!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Tepic · Joined: 05 May 2006 Posts: 1551

Blinky wrote: Why not try what people here do when they don't like the justice system or any other societal system (take to the streets and demand change or vote for progressive leaders). Maybe they don't want to change?

From this blog entry it seems that in Iran, only government organised protests are allowed. Maybe the government doesn't want to organise an overly critical protest against itself?

MoscowMatt · Joined: 16 Sep 2005 Posts: 1647 Location: UK / Hungary

Duchifas wrote:
pharaoh admitted this? This I gotta see!

:lol: :lol:

Duchifas · Joined: 22 Jun 2004 Posts: 9950

psholtz wrote: The entire planet is living in a Dark Age..

In fact, times have *never* been as Dark for the human race as they are right now..

Stop whining. Everything is relatively fine. There is plenty extra fiberoptic cable under the US, your internet connection will be fine for the next few decades.

ToonArmyIsComing · Joined: 15 Feb 2005 Posts: 5888 Location: Ontario

psholtz wrote: The entire planet is living in a Dark Age..

In fact, times have *never* been as Dark for the human race as they are right now..

Absolutely, the level of hypocrisy in politics these days is far more than it has ever been in the entire history of mankind.

Some people call others "backwards" when their own society is engaged in repressive measures against various minorities.

Frankly, the world needs a global jihad/crusade on oppression [as well as organized religion and collectivism].

cap'n queasy · Joined: 15 May 2004 Posts: 34968

Dagger wrote: cap'n queasy wrote: Eynon81 wrote: To quote pharaoh
Quote: we are living in some kind of dark ages that people tend to apply laws on children without any kind of consideration of their age or whether the punishment is even lawful.

People, dont get shocked if these things are happening, the arab world is living in a complete breakdown for atleast 3 hundred years. These things happen in poor and backward (in terms of poor education) societies.

an interesting statement.....I would love to see people talk about this idea, and more importantly ways they feel the Arab world could reverse this current state of affairs.

They could lay down their hate. It's eating them up.

Amen to that. But it requires education, teaching them that west isnt out to destroy them, it can be done believe it or not. And Educating Osama to kill Russians isnt the type of education im talking about

Bombing the s**t out of them really isnt helping also.

Yes, I agree a real education for all of the children there would be a fine goal to try and achieve.

Blinky · Joined: 18 Mar 2006 Posts: 2522

Tepic wrote: Blinky wrote: Why not try what people here do when they don't like the justice system or any other societal system (take to the streets and demand change or vote for progressive leaders). Maybe they don't want to change?

From this blog entry it seems that in Iran, only government organised protests are allowed. Maybe the government doesn't want to organise an overly critical protest against itself?

Probably the case. But what kind of government ever wants to organise a critical protest against itself? Thats right, none.
Protest isn't about waiting for government approval to voice your complaint, in fact its the complete opposite. Gotta say I'm surprised you didn't realise that before you tried to debunk my suggestion.

Tepic · Joined: 05 May 2006 Posts: 1551

Blinky wrote: Tepic wrote: Blinky wrote: Why not try what people here do when they don't like the justice system or any other societal system (take to the streets and demand change or vote for progressive leaders). Maybe they don't want to change?

From this blog entry it seems that in Iran, only government organised protests are allowed. Maybe the government doesn't want to organise an overly critical protest against itself?

Probably the case. But what kind of government ever wants to organise a critical protest against itself? Thats right, none.
Protest isn't about waiting for government approval to voice your complaint, in fact its the complete opposite. Gotta say I'm surprised you didn't realise that before you tried to debunk my suggestion.

Not debunk - question. In Australia you have things like freedom of association and freedom of speech which guarantee your right to peaceful protests. Without those, protestors may just be slapped into jail and the world may never even hear about the protest. Iran has the world's 4th worst press freedom according to reporters sans frontières.

Blinky · Joined: 18 Mar 2006 Posts: 2522

Tepic wrote: Blinky wrote: Tepic wrote: Blinky wrote: Why not try what people here do when they don't like the justice system or any other societal system (take to the streets and demand change or vote for progressive leaders). Maybe they don't want to change?

From this blog entry it seems that in Iran, only government organised protests are allowed. Maybe the government doesn't want to organise an overly critical protest against itself?

Probably the case. But what kind of government ever wants to organise a critical protest against itself? Thats right, none.
Protest isn't about waiting for government approval to voice your complaint, in fact its the complete opposite. Gotta say I'm surprised you didn't realise that before you tried to debunk my suggestion.

Not debunk - question. In Australia you have things like freedom of association and freedom of speech which guarantee your right to peaceful protests. Without those, protestors may just be slapped into jail and the world may never even hear about the protest. Iran has the world's 4th worst press freedom according to reporters sans frontières.

In a way, this proves my original point. It seems that the people of Iran are waiting for more reedoms to land in their laps when their government feels generous enough to hand them down.
Why wait? Why not get out there and demand them (if they really want them)? What have they got to lose? As it stands they get arrested for thinking differently and acting differently, so why be afraid of getting arrested for protesting against such a state of affairs? If enough people want change and demand it, their leaders simply can't lock them all up - their economies would collapse and it would only encourage further protest.
Sooner or later, all oppressive regimes experience revolution - often its violent.

Muslima · Joined: 13 Nov 2005 Posts: 1634

I can't believe that paroah said that!

I wonder where exactly is he living in the middle east? most egypt is not a backward society!

ToonArmyIsComing · Joined: 15 Feb 2005 Posts: 5888 Location: Ontario

Muslima wrote: I can't believe that paroah said that!

I wonder where exactly is he living in the middle east? most egypt is not a backward society!

He said that when he saw the news about a 14 year old Iraqi boy being killed by the Iraqi police because he was gay.

Though it's quite disturbing that others are commenting here and they never even bothered to say anything in that thread about that poor gay boy because they might catch gay!!! :roll: