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Revenant
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| Posted: Sun May 07, 2006 3:53 pm Post subject: Stem Cell Research |
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| Embreyonic Stem Cell research, Yay or Nay? |
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steen
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| Posted: Sun May 07, 2006 4:44 pm Post subject: |
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| I can save the lives of persons. It is a great thing, and those who oppose it have serious disregard for the suffering of born persons. |
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LostSoul3412
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| Posted: Sun May 07, 2006 6:59 pm Post subject: |
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| Protection of the actual over the potential. |
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Plodder
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| Posted: Mon May 08, 2006 12:25 am Post subject: |
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Quote: of born persons. finnaly you aknowlege unborn persons!!!!
No way because it is killing millions of humans. |
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LostSoul3412
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| Posted: Mon May 08, 2006 1:18 pm Post subject: |
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Plodder wrote: Quote: of born persons. finnaly you aknowlege unborn persons!!!!
No way because it is killing millions of humans.
... I believe the quote says born persons, not unborn. |
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Plodder
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| Posted: Tue May 09, 2006 7:13 am Post subject: |
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| if there arew born persons, then there must be unborn persons. if not whay did he not simply say adults? |
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LostSoul3412
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| Posted: Tue May 09, 2006 10:37 am Post subject: |
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Plodder wrote: if there arew born persons, then there must be unborn persons. if not whay did he not simply say adults?
Ask steen, not me. I can't tell you what he's thinking...
Yet. :twisted: |
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Revenant
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| Posted: Tue May 09, 2006 7:06 pm Post subject: |
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if there arew born persons, then there must be unborn persons. if not whay did he not simply say adults?
So, every word as a fundamental opposite? That's cool, I'm going to go plant some untrees with some unseeds :roll: |
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steen
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| Posted: Tue May 09, 2006 7:38 pm Post subject: |
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Plodder wrote: if there arew born persons, then there must be unborn persons. Nope. What you are doing is applying sophist reasoning. Rather pointless and lame. here is an example:
Plodder can't fly.
A rock can't fly.
Therefore, Plodder is a rock.
THAT is sophistry, and that is the means of your argument.
Quote: if not whay did he not simply say adults? Because the other terminology is what is used in the US Constitution. Didn't you know? |
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Plodder
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| Posted: Thu May 11, 2006 2:22 pm Post subject: |
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Quote: Plodder is a rock. you donk know that im not. what if my name is Rock (peter)
lol play on words. Love em. |
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steen
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| Posted: Thu May 11, 2006 4:35 pm Post subject: |
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| Plodder wrote: lol play on words. Love em. Yes, we have noted, as that is all you do. You got nothing to offer but sophsitry. Thanks for admitting that. |
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Plodder
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| Posted: Fri May 12, 2006 2:36 pm Post subject: |
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| I offer truth and if you act like a Pharisee and turn away from it, it wont be my fault at the end of all things for you. |
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LostSoul3412
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| Posted: Fri May 12, 2006 2:55 pm Post subject: |
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Plodder wrote: I offer truth and if you act like a Pharisee and turn away from it, it wont be my fault at the end of all things for you.
Just as you turn away from steen's "truth", stop being a hypocrite.
And what the heck is a "Pharisee"? |
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steen
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| Posted: Sat May 13, 2006 11:13 pm Post subject: |
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| LostSoul3412 wrote: And what the heck is a "Pharisee"? The ones who thought that they knew what God wanted and that they could be holier-than-thou and get saved that way. That pretty much fits plodder like a hand in a glove |
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LostSoul3412
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| Posted: Sat May 13, 2006 11:49 pm Post subject: |
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steen wrote: LostSoul3412 wrote: And what the heck is a "Pharisee"? The ones who thought that they knew what God wanted and that they could be holier-than-thou and get saved that way. That pretty much fits plodder like a hand in a glove
Isn't it funny how God always tends to agree with the people who know exactly what he is thinking? Or is it just some coincidence that God happens to always agree with their agendas?
Wasn't that a Susan B. Anthony quote...? |
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Plodder
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| Posted: Sun May 14, 2006 12:09 am Post subject: |
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| susan B anthony was aginnst abortion. |
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LostSoul3412
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| Posted: Sun May 14, 2006 1:27 am Post subject: |
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Plodder wrote: susan B anthony was aginnst abortion.
So?
Oh, and...
Proof? |
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steen
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| Posted: Sun May 14, 2006 10:09 am Post subject: |
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| Plodder wrote: susan B anthony was aginnst abortion. Now, did you notice that this tread is about stemcells? |
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shark77
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| Posted: Sun May 14, 2006 7:18 pm Post subject: |
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What about discarded umbilical cord blood from after a baby is born?
Seems rather promising. I read this article last week on cord blood stem cell research.
http://biz.yahoo.com/bw/060508/20060508005287.html?.v=1
It seems as though this circumvents the ethical arguement of using stem cells from an embryo.
And from my understanding, it seems as though it is more successful than what the embryonic research has given. |
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LostSoul3412
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| Posted: Sun May 14, 2006 10:45 pm Post subject: |
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shark77 wrote: What about discarded umbilical cord blood from after a baby is born?
Seems rather promising. I read this article last week on cord blood stem cell research.
http://biz.yahoo.com/bw/060508/20060508005287.html?.v=1
It seems as though this circumvents the ethical arguement of using stem cells from an embryo.
And from my understanding, it seems as though it is more successful than what the embryonic research has given.
Interesting, I never heard of that before. While I support stem cell research to the fullest, I'm sure even pro-life advocates can support research on umbilical cords, since they are merely discarded anyway. |
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