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steen · Joined: 14 Jan 2006 Posts: 1430 Location: Upper Midwest

shark77 wrote: What about discarded umbilical cord blood from after a baby is born? They are not peluripotential, though. They might be great for treatment of leukemia, but won't do much for type 1 diabetes or alzheimer's.

shark77 · Joined: 14 May 2006 Posts: 80

steen wrote: shark77 wrote: What about discarded umbilical cord blood from after a baby is born? They are not peluripotential, though. They might be great for treatment of leukemia, but won't do much for type 1 diabetes or alzheimer's.

Actually, funny you should bring up the type I diabetes. I was talking with a friend of mine who is in the biotech industry and said that, that company is working with some universities to the point that they are ready to start human testing on a treatment to cure type I diabetes with technolgy from this stem cell cord blood research.

steen · Joined: 14 Jan 2006 Posts: 1430 Location: Upper Midwest

shark77 wrote: steen wrote: shark77 wrote: What about discarded umbilical cord blood from after a baby is born? They are not peluripotential, though. They might be great for treatment of leukemia, but won't do much for type 1 diabetes or alzheimer's.

Actually, funny you should bring up the type I diabetes. I was talking with a friend of mine who is in the biotech industry and said that, that company is working with some universities to the point that they are ready to start human testing on a treatment to cure type I diabetes with technolgy from this stem cell cord blood research. That would be wonderful. It has been tried before, though, as an utter failure. The stemcells simply couldn't differentiate enough.

straw man · Joined: 19 Apr 2006 Posts: 2948

steen wrote: shark77 wrote: steen wrote: shark77 wrote: What about discarded umbilical cord blood from after a baby is born? They are not peluripotential, though. They might be great for treatment of leukemia, but won't do much for type 1 diabetes or alzheimer's.

Actually, funny you should bring up the type I diabetes. I was talking with a friend of mine who is in the biotech industry and said that, that company is working with some universities to the point that they are ready to start human testing on a treatment to cure type I diabetes with technolgy from this stem cell cord blood research. That would be wonderful. It has been tried before, though, as an utter failure. The stemcells simply couldn't differentiate enough.

Nope. You're a liar. Oh yeah, and did I label something of yours as "sophistry" so that I wouldn't have to address it in the last couple minutes? Well just to be on the safe side... SOPHISTRY!!!!

Wow, refusing to argue like a man sure is fun...

:roll:

steen · Joined: 14 Jan 2006 Posts: 1430 Location: Upper Midwest

Good heavens. What a lame nonsense post.

shark77 · Joined: 14 May 2006 Posts: 80

steen wrote: shark77 wrote: steen wrote: shark77 wrote: What about discarded umbilical cord blood from after a baby is born? They are not peluripotential, though. They might be great for treatment of leukemia, but won't do much for type 1 diabetes or alzheimer's.

Actually, funny you should bring up the type I diabetes. I was talking with a friend of mine who is in the biotech industry and said that, that company is working with some universities to the point that they are ready to start human testing on a treatment to cure type I diabetes with technolgy from this stem cell cord blood research. That would be wonderful. It has been tried before, though, as an utter failure. The stemcells simply couldn't differentiate enough.

The company developed and patented a line of stem cells that are called Multi-Lineage Progenitor Cells (MLPC). These cells are karyotypically stable and this was from their website about MLPC's.

"...MLPC's demonstrate expression of high levels of genes associated with primitive, uncommitted, undifferentiated stem cells (TERT, OCT-4, SOX-2, GATA-4, PTEN, PUM-2, TBX-3). Differentiation studies show a diverse multi-lineage capacity for a wide variety of distinct tissue types without spontaneous or spurious differentiation. These cells provide an innovative platform for developing novel and improved differentiation methods. Further, these cell lines, provide unique model systems for understanding and defining gene expression associated with specific lineages. The genetic stability of MLPC lines, combined with the ability to self-renew, provides a readily available vector model for stable gene transfer and ultimately therapy..." http://www.bioe.com/

If this is the real deal than it is a major break through in stem cell research. And with the Univeristy of Minnesota involved in succesful research using these MLPC's, it seems really promising.

Of course the proof will be in the pudding, but this seems like it might be the real break through.

Otacon · Posted: Wed May 17, 2006 8:09 am Post subject:

LostSoul3412 wrote: shark77 wrote: What about discarded umbilical cord blood from after a baby is born?

Seems rather promising. I read this article last week on cord blood stem cell research.

http://biz.yahoo.com/bw/060508/20060508005287.html?.v=1

It seems as though this circumvents the ethical arguement of using stem cells from an embryo.

And from my understanding, it seems as though it is more successful than what the embryonic research has given.

Interesting, I never heard of that before. While I support stem cell research to the fullest, I'm sure even pro-life advocates can support research on umbilical cords, since they are merely discarded anyway.

Yeah, that could be a way to get everyone on board. Good find.

Izzibeth · Joined: 12 May 2006 Posts: 423

you also have the option of saving your child's umbilical cord blood for your own (or their own rather) future needs should it arise. the only problem with that....? look up the price. :(

Plodder · Joined: 01 Nov 2005 Posts: 803 Location: USA

Quote: Good heavens. What a lame nonsense post. just like 99% of all of yours..
EDIT: actually 99.9999% of all of your posts.

George W Bush · Posted: Sun May 21, 2006 10:24 am Post subject:

no arguments against stem cell research? thats odd.

straw man · Joined: 19 Apr 2006 Posts: 2948

George W Bush wrote: no arguments against stem cell research? thats odd.

I'll write up an article, "Why it's Wrong to Cure Cancer".

.... crap, I got writer's block.

LostSoul3412 · Joined: 11 Feb 2005 Posts: 8258

straw man wrote: George W Bush wrote: no arguments against stem cell research? thats odd.

I'll write up an article, "Why it's Wrong to Cure Cancer".

.... crap, I got writer's block.

:lol:

Yeah, and I'll write a follow up entitled: "1,000 ways to kill a baby, and 1,000 ways to joke about it."

:lol:

straw man · Joined: 19 Apr 2006 Posts: 2948

I know many dead baby jokes. But they are too innapropriate to tell here.

LostSoul3412 · Joined: 11 Feb 2005 Posts: 8258

Izzibeth wrote: you also have the option of saving your child's umbilical cord blood for your own (or their own rather) future needs should it arise. the only problem with that....? look up the price. :(

I wonder why that is... technically it is a part of the mother, so why would one have to pay to keep the umbilical cord?

LostSoul3412 · Joined: 11 Feb 2005 Posts: 8258

straw man wrote: I know many dead baby jokes. But they are too innapropriate to tell here.

Agreed, a different time in a different place, perhaps.

steen · Joined: 14 Jan 2006 Posts: 1430 Location: Upper Midwest

LostSoul3412 wrote: Izzibeth wrote: you also have the option of saving your child's umbilical cord blood for your own (or their own rather) future needs should it arise. the only problem with that....? look up the price. :( I wonder why that is... technically it is a part of the mother, so why would one have to pay to keep the umbilical cord? It is the live storage that costs. You can take it with you home for free. :)