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feederband



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Posted: Wed May 10, 2006 2:53 pm    Post subject:  

dtwizzy2k5 wrote: [You ask why doesn't God just heal all the world's ills with the wave of a hand and answer everybody's prayers to put an end to all evil.

I don't know why...But if I believed in a all powerfull god this would be the least he could do...
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eXploiTeD



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Posted: Wed May 10, 2006 3:36 pm    Post subject:  

dtwizzy2k5 wrote: Omega1 wrote: Dtwizzy2k5 wrote: Alright, here is proof God exists:
Jesus said he did. Jesus is a credible source because he performed many miracles and was resurrected.

If you disagree please explain i want to hear your reasoning.

That's not proof. It's only written in a book. Where are the miracles?

1 Kings
18:37 Hear me, O LORD, hear me, that this people may know that thou art the LORD God, and that thou hast turned their heart back again.

18:38 Then the fire of the LORD fell, and consumed the burnt sacrifice, and the wood, and the stones, and the dust, and licked up the water that was in the trench.

18:39 And when all the people saw it, they fell on their faces: and they said, The LORD, he is the God; the LORD, he is the God.

Why doesn't he do this today? How come you didn't answer my question at the beginning of this thread?

You ask why doesn't God just heal all the world's ills with the wave of a hand and answer everybody's prayers to put an end to all evil. Obviously God can do this if he wanted to, but why would he? Think about it: If there was no bad in life, then how can we appreciate the good? If you haven't seen evil, how can you recognize good? Your problem is that you are caught up too much in this life on Earth which is only very temporary my friend. Grit your teeth and fight through pain in this life with full faith in God and God WILL answer your prayers in the end by allowing you into heaven, which has no evil and IS perfect. But, you must experience bad on Earth in this life first before you can appreciate the greatness that is Heaven in the next, eternal life.

Got any more questions? [/quote]

You neglected to answer his first question, so I'm sure he'd like to hear your answer to that.
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Omega1



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Posted: Wed May 10, 2006 11:13 pm    Post subject:  

Quote: You ask why doesn't God just heal all the world's ills with the wave of a hand and answer everybody's prayers to put an end to all evil.

No, I asked why do prayers NEVER get answered? Christians claim they do but they only got better due to treatment.


Quote: Think about it: If there was no bad in life, then how can we appreciate the good? If you haven't seen evil, how can you recognize good?

If we need evil, why punish people or angels for evil acts? Why did God create Satan to do the job for him (tempts people to sin) and then punishes him?
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dtwizzy2k5



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Posted: Thu May 11, 2006 2:18 pm    Post subject:  

Omega1 wrote: No, I asked why do prayers NEVER get answered? Christians claim they do but they only got better due to treatment.


Prayers do get answered you are just ignorant if you think that they aren't. Obviously God wont give u a fancy ferrari if you pray for one but with prayer comes blessings in life. And the last part of your sentence makes no sense "they only got better due to treatment". What is that supposed to mean? Can you clarify that?

Omega1 wrote: If we need evil, why punish people or angels for evil acts? Why did God create Satan to do the job for him (tempts people to sin) and then punishes him?

Evil is an inevitable part of life. But that doesn't mean evil isnt wrong. Obviously doing evil is wrong and therefore you get punished. It's not as if God created evil he just doesnt completely get rid of it even though he can for reasons I explained earlier.
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feederband



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Posted: Thu May 11, 2006 2:32 pm    Post subject:  

dtwizzy2k5 wrote: Prayers do get answered you are just ignorant if you think that they aren't. Obviously God wont give u a fancy ferrari if you pray for one but with prayer comes blessings in life.

And what the he*L is a blessing in life....Prayers are nothing but false hope...Things happen Your god has nothing to do with it....
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dtwizzy2k5



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Posted: Thu May 11, 2006 2:47 pm    Post subject:  

feederband wrote: dtwizzy2k5 wrote: Prayers do get answered you are just ignorant if you think that they aren't. Obviously God wont give u a fancy ferrari if you pray for one but with prayer comes blessings in life. And what the he*L is a blessing in life....Prayers are nothing but false hope...Things happen Your god has nothing to do with it....

I think you are missing something important here. You perceive prayer solely as a means to receive; to get, get , and get some more. Prayer is mainly a way to get closer to God and build a spiritual relationship with Him. With a close relationship like that and true faith you can go on and overcome most hardships in life. You shouldnt always be expecting to receive so much from prayer, because if you are then you're missing the point of prayer entirely.
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feederband



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Posted: Thu May 11, 2006 2:53 pm    Post subject:  

dtwizzy2k5 wrote: feederband wrote: dtwizzy2k5 wrote: Prayers do get answered you are just ignorant if you think that they aren't. Obviously God wont give u a fancy ferrari if you pray for one but with prayer comes blessings in life. And what the he*L is a blessing in life....Prayers are nothing but false hope...Things happen Your god has nothing to do with it....

I think you are missing something important here. You perceive prayer solely as a means to receive; to get, get , and get some more. Prayer is mainly a way to get closer to God and build a spiritual relationship with Him. With a close relationship like that and true faith you can go on and overcome most hardships in life. You shouldnt always be expecting to receive so much from prayer, because if you are then you're missing the point of prayer entirely.

So when you pray you not asking you god to do something? Now I'm starting to get concerned..What are you talking to him about?
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dtwizzy2k5



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Posted: Thu May 11, 2006 4:06 pm    Post subject:  

feederband wrote: So when you pray you not asking you god to do something? Now I'm starting to get concerned..What are you talking to him about?

You pray to God to remain close to Him. I must ask, do you pray? Because if not, then you would have no idea what it feels like to be close with God through prayer. Thus, it is difficult to explain in words the meaning of prayer if you havent experienced doing it regularly on a daily basis. So answer me that: do you pray?
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feederband



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Posted: Thu May 11, 2006 4:09 pm    Post subject:  

dtwizzy2k5 wrote: feederband wrote: So when you pray you not asking you god to do something? Now I'm starting to get concerned..What are you talking to him about?

You pray to God to remain close to Him. I must ask, do you pray? Because if not, then you would have no idea what it feels like to be close with God through prayer. Thus, it is difficult to explain in words the meaning of prayer if you havent experienced doing it regularly on a daily basis. So answer me that: do you pray?

No and why would I...? What are you asking when you pray to god...
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dtwizzy2k5



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Posted: Thu May 11, 2006 4:31 pm    Post subject:  

feederband wrote: No and why would I...? What are you asking when you pray to god...

When you pray to God you are basically just worshipping him and asking him for blessings. It brings you closer to God in the sense that you are always thinking of Him (obviously you would always be thinking of anybody if you worshipped them daily) and so in that sense you feel like you have someone watching you always. Praying is like a daily reminder not to lose your faith and by doing such it helps you fight off temptations to do evil. Also, if you ever go through tough times, knowing that God is there for you helps you to cope. Obviously you will disagree, but praying to God and asking him for his blessings really does works as it will make you a happier person. You may not have specific things happen to you or receive material objects per se, but it builds your character. Also, prayer is a good time to ask God forgiveness for your sins and maintain a strong spiritual relationship.
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feederband



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Posted: Thu May 11, 2006 5:07 pm    Post subject:  

dtwizzy2k5 wrote: feederband wrote: No and why would I...? What are you asking when you pray to god...

When you pray to God you are basically just worshipping him and asking him for blessings. It brings you closer to God in the sense that you are always thinking of Him (obviously you would always be thinking of anybody if you worshipped them daily) and so in that sense you feel like you have someone watching you always. Praying is like a daily reminder not to lose your faith and by doing such it helps you fight off temptations to do evil. Also, if you ever go through tough times, knowing that God is there for you helps you to cope. Obviously you will disagree, but praying to God and asking him for his blessings really does works as it will make you a happier person. You may not have specific things happen to you or receive material objects per se, but it builds your character. Also, prayer is a good time to ask God forgiveness for your sins and maintain a strong spiritual relationship.

Enjoy...
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Omega1



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Posted: Sun May 14, 2006 8:41 am    Post subject:  

dtwizzy2k5 wrote: Prayers do get answered you are just ignorant if you think that they aren't. Obviously God wont give u a fancy ferrari if you pray for one but with prayer comes blessings in life.

I was talking about diseases. Why doesn't he cure AIDS sometimes?


Quote: And the last part of your sentence makes no sense "they only got better due to treatment". What is that supposed to mean? Can you clarify that?

They go to the doctor, DUH.

Quote: Evil is an inevitable part of life. But that doesn't mean evil isnt wrong. Obviously doing evil is wrong and therefore you get punished. It's not as if God created evil he just doesnt completely get rid of it even though he can for reasons I explained earlier.

If it's wrong to do it then God should be punished for creating Satan to do the job for him.
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