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[Omega1]

People always claim God didn't want to make people perfect because then they would be robots (they would have no freewill so they couldn't truely love God). How come God didn't make people like Jesus Christ? Jesus Christ NEVER sinned and had freewill.

[mojo]

Omega1 wrote: People always claim God didn't want to make people perfect because then they would be robots (they would have no freewill so they couldn't truely love God). How come God didn't make people like Jesus Christ? Jesus Christ NEVER sinned and has freewill.

Jesus was God.

[Omega1]

politicalmojo wrote: Jesus was God.

So how come he didn't make us like him?

[feederband]

politicalmojo wrote: Omega1 wrote: People always claim God didn't want to make people perfect because then they would be robots (they would have no freewill so they couldn't truely love God). How come God didn't make people like Jesus Christ? Jesus Christ NEVER sinned and has freewill.

Jesus was God.

A god that wanted to be nail to a cross...

[Snarf]

Omega1 wrote: People always claim God didn't want to make people perfect because then they would be robots (they would have no freewill so they couldn't truely love God). How come God didn't make people like Jesus Christ? Jesus Christ NEVER sinned and had freewill.
Jesus had plenty of sins. Vanity for one...

[mojo]

Omega1 wrote: politicalmojo wrote: Jesus was God.

So how come he didn't make us like him?

We are like him. Jesus had free will just like us but he chose to excercise his free will in a perfect form.

If you are refering to his miracles that would make humans God. There is only one God.

[psholtz]

politicalmojo wrote: Omega1 wrote: People always claim God didn't want to make people perfect because then they would be robots (they would have no freewill so they couldn't truely love God). How come God didn't make people like Jesus Christ? Jesus Christ NEVER sinned and has freewill.

Jesus was God.
Jesus was a Son of God.

There's a huge difference.

[John]

psholtz wrote: politicalmojo wrote: Omega1 wrote: People always claim God didn't want to make people perfect because then they would be robots (they would have no freewill so they couldn't truely love God). How come God didn't make people like Jesus Christ? Jesus Christ NEVER sinned and has freewill.

Jesus was God.
Jesus was a Son of God.

There's a huge difference.

No. Jesus is the one and only begotten Son of God.

You're confused and lost psholtz.

[Omega1]

politicalmojo wrote: We are like him. Jesus had free will just like us but he chose to excercise his free will in a perfect form.

That's BS. We're not like him now, but we will be like him when we get to heaven.

1 John 3
3:2 Beloved, now are we the sons of God, and it doth not yet appear what we shall be: but we know that, when he shall appear, we shall be like him; for we shall see him as he is.


Revelation 22
22:14 Blessed are they that do his commandments, that they may have right to the tree of life, and may enter in through the gates into the city.
22:15 For without are dogs, and sorcerers, and whoremongers, and murderers, and idolaters, and whosoever loveth and maketh a lie.

There is no sinning in heaven PERIOD

[psholtz]

John wrote: psholtz wrote: politicalmojo wrote: Omega1 wrote: People always claim God didn't want to make people perfect because then they would be robots (they would have no freewill so they couldn't truely love God). How come God didn't make people like Jesus Christ? Jesus Christ NEVER sinned and has freewill.

Jesus was God.
Jesus was a Son of God.

There's a huge difference.

No. Jesus is the one and only begotten Son of God.

You're confused and lost psholtz.
I say unto you, is it not written in your Scriptures that ye are the Sons of the Living God?

Quote: I have said, Ye are gods; and all of you are children of the most High.

-- Psalm 82:6

You may want to cross-reference that w/ John 10:34..

And while you're at it, you can also cross-reference it w/ Job 38:7, Hosea 1:10, Romans 8:16, Luke 3:38, 1 John 5:1 and Matthew 5:45

[mattwa33193]

Omega1 wrote: politicalmojo wrote: We are like him. Jesus had free will just like us but he chose to excercise his free will in a perfect form.

That's BS. We're not like him now, but we will be like him when we get to heaven.

1 John 3
3:2 Beloved, now are we the sons of God, and it doth not yet appear what we shall be: but we know that, when he shall appear, we shall be like him; for we shall see him as he is.


Revelation 22
22:14 Blessed are they that do his commandments, that they may have right to the tree of life, and may enter in through the gates into the city.
22:15 For without are dogs, and sorcerers, and whoremongers, and murderers, and idolaters, and whosoever loveth and maketh a lie.

There is no sinning in heaven PERIOD

That is just a complete cop out. "We can't be as good as Jesus because He was God."

Jesus was a MAN. If He wasn't, then nothing He did had any point at all. He was a man who lived His life in the way we should all aspire to live ours. What would be the purpose in Him telling us how we should live our lives, and showing us how to live our lives if we can't possibly do it?

If Jesus was in fact divine, a point I am not conceding, He still came to us as a man. The Son of God, but we are all God's children, none of us less than another. If people would stop worshipping what He did and started trying to DO what He did, the world would be a much better place and we would be much better people.

[Addison]

How do you know Jesus didn't sin? Heresy it may be, but the bible leaves a gap from his age at 2 to his age at 12, and then again when he worked as a carpenter for 18 years until he began his preaching at 30. I used to work with carpenters when I installed fiberglass insulation in Florida homes--they cursed a lot.