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DevilMan
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| Posted: Wed May 03, 2006 10:28 am Post subject: Religion And Abortion |
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| Of course every one knows that some religious types think abortion is ethically and morally wrong. People think its murder and should be stopped. My point is that this argument will never end. Is abortion wrong? I think so I think that it IS murder and people who have abortions are wrong as well. But I still think it should legal. Abortion will continue if not by doctors then by coat hangers. (ow that hurt my soul) But the thing is that if YOU don't want YOUR baby aborted don't get one. I'm not going to hell because some girl got knocked up in Wisconsin and got an abortion. If it doesn't effect you don't worry about it. I can see how topics like Gun Control and topics like Legalization of Marijuana are debated. These laws effect every one in some way. But abortion can't harm you if some one else gets one... Stop worrying about. Sure it might not be a good christianly thing to do but if your good and christianly, to hell with them. (In more ways than one) I hope I didn't offend any one although I probably did. Just trying to get my opinion across. |
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Plodder
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| Posted: Thu May 04, 2006 1:25 am Post subject: |
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| for any catholic inaction is tatamount to agreeing with it. I disagree so I atrgue for the sake of life. |
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steen
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| Posted: Thu May 04, 2006 10:08 am Post subject: |
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| Plodder wrote: for any catholic inaction is tatamount to agreeing with it. I disagree so I atrgue for the sake of life. So ANYTHING you are not taking action about is stuff you agree with? Killings in Darfur, clubbing of baby seals, murder of street kids in Sao Paulo, death of millions of kids by starvation? My God, what a monster you are by not taking action against all these things and thus support them! :roll: |
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Plodder
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| Posted: Sat May 06, 2006 1:30 am Post subject: |
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Quote: So ANYTHING you are not taking action about is stuff you agree with? Killings in Darfur, clubbing of baby seals, murder of street kids in Sao Paulo, death of millions of kids by starvation? My God, what a monster you are by not taking action against all these things and thus support them! 1st: clubbing seals is not a crime that cries out to God
2nd: Oh I do try to take action for almost all the things tat you say, problem is, I find it very hard to find someone to argue with on the subjest of genocide in Darfur. I find that alot of people in the USA enjoy the genocide of babies so I start at home and work my way out. |
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steen
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| Posted: Sat May 06, 2006 11:23 am Post subject: |
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Plodder wrote: Quote: So ANYTHING you are not taking action about is stuff you agree with? Killings in Darfur, clubbing of baby seals, murder of street kids in Sao Paulo, death of millions of kids by starvation? My God, what a monster you are by not taking action against all these things and thus support them! 1st: clubbing seals is not a crime that cries out to God How do you know? The Bible mentions neither abortion, nor clubbing of baby seals.
Quote: 2nd: Oh I do try to take action for almost all the things tat you say, So what HAVE you done about Darfur and the killing of kids in Sao Paulo? What have you done about the 40 mill kids dying evcery year from preventable diarrhea?
Quote: problem is, I find it very hard to find someone to argue with on the subjest of genocide in Darfur. I find that alot of people in the USA enjoy the genocide of babies so I start at home and work my way out. AH, so your idea of taking action is to "argue"? Uhum, why am I not surprised. |
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Plodder
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| Posted: Sat May 06, 2006 1:12 pm Post subject: |
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Quote: The Bible mentions neither abortion, it dies mention killing and harming children. Jesus: "If anyone takes these chldren from me it would be better if they were threown into the sea"
OT: Angel stops Abraham from sacrificing his only son. |
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Plodder
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| Posted: Sat May 06, 2006 1:14 pm Post subject: |
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Quote: AH, so your idea of taking action is to "argue"? Uhum, why am I not surprised Like I said I concentrate at home first and then out. and I belive aruing is an action. o wait that a lie too inst it?
youre pathetic if you need to resort to personal attacks |
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steen
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| Posted: Sat May 06, 2006 1:23 pm Post subject: |
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Plodder wrote: Quote: The Bible mentions neither abortion, it dies mention killing and harming children. And even fetuses:
"Samaria shall bear her guilt; for she hath rebelled against her God: they shall fall by the sword; their infants shall be dashed in pieces, and their women with child shall be ripped up." (Hosea 13:16)
Dashing infants to pieces. Cutting open pregnant women. Yes, the Bible does indeed talking about harming and killing children and even condones forced abortion. |
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steen
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| Posted: Sat May 06, 2006 1:25 pm Post subject: |
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Plodder wrote: Quote: AH, so your idea of taking action is to "argue"? Uhum, why am I not surprised Like I said I concentrate at home first and then out. and I belive aruing is an action. No surprise there. Talk is cheap.
Quote: youre pathetic if you need to resort to personal attacks You really should stop talking to yourself, plodder. We might feel that as a further confirmation of your mental status. |
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Plodder
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| Posted: Sat May 06, 2006 2:35 pm Post subject: |
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like I justr said all you can do is resort to personal attacks.
youve got nil |
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LostSoul3412
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| Posted: Sun May 07, 2006 7:37 pm Post subject: |
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Plodder wrote: like I justr said all you can do is resort to personal attacks.
youve got nil
I think you've got nil, steen's actually made some points, and refuted your points. |
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Plodder
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| Posted: Mon May 08, 2006 12:14 am Post subject: |
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what refutatioins?
saying no is not refutiong a point. |
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LostSoul3412
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| Posted: Mon May 08, 2006 1:42 pm Post subject: |
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steen wrote: Plodder wrote: for any catholic inaction is tatamount to agreeing with it. I disagree so I atrgue for the sake of life. So ANYTHING you are not taking action about is stuff you agree with? Killings in Darfur, clubbing of baby seals, murder of street kids in Sao Paulo, death of millions of kids by starvation? My God, what a monster you are by not taking action against all these things and thus support them! :roll:
steen wrote: So what HAVE you done about Darfur and the killing of kids in Sao Paulo? What have you done about the 40 mill kids dying evcery year from preventable diarrhea?
steen wrote: And even fetuses:
"Samaria shall bear her guilt; for she hath rebelled against her God: they shall fall by the sword; their infants shall be dashed in pieces, and their women with child shall be ripped up." (Hosea 13:16)
Dashing infants to pieces. Cutting open pregnant women. Yes, the Bible does indeed talking about harming and killing children and even condones forced abortion.
All very good points... So I believe that your Plodder wrote: youve got nil arguement is null. |
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Plodder
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| Posted: Mon May 08, 2006 10:26 pm Post subject: |
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| i refuted the first and second posts the third I never have seen, but what I can tell you from that passage is that the punishment for that city included the women and children and all it proves is that god did conider fetuses children. |
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steen
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| Posted: Mon May 08, 2006 10:30 pm Post subject: |
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Plodder wrote: i refuted the first and second posts Nope.
Quote: the third I never have seen, but what I can tell you from that passage is that the punishment for that city included the women and children and all it proves is that god did conider fetuses children. It shows that God finds the killing of children and the ripping open of pregnant women to be OK. |
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Plodder
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| Posted: Mon May 08, 2006 10:45 pm Post subject: |
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| yes just like God finds it ok to kill every one on earth right? |
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steen
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| Posted: Mon May 08, 2006 10:53 pm Post subject: |
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| Plodder wrote: yes just like God finds it ok to kill every one on earth right? Well, God has done almost that a few times as well, yes. So where was that claim about God being pro-life? |
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Plodder
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| Posted: Mon May 08, 2006 10:56 pm Post subject: |
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| once actually and he swore never to do it again. |
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steen
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| Posted: Mon May 08, 2006 11:40 pm Post subject: |
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| Plodder wrote: once actually and he swore never to do it again. So you are demeanign God by saying that God is fickle. yeah, whatever. |
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Plodder
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| Posted: Tue May 09, 2006 7:04 am Post subject: |
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| read the bible |
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