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Schmengus_jr
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| Posted: Fri Apr 30, 2004 10:15 pm Post subject: Scientology |
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| Whats up with scientology..what is it? ive heard some things about it, that it is a cult, and that they are devil worshipers.....will some1 explain it to me, and y do they have so many celebrity members? |
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Maverick
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| Posted: Sat May 01, 2004 3:49 am Post subject: |
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| They are not Devil worshipers though they sometimes appear to be L.Ron Hubbard (the founder) worshippers.They are considered a cult yet deny it adamantly.They have gone so far as to use the courts to bankrupt the Cult Report Hotline( I forget right off the actual name ) and then buy it from bankruptcy so that they could stop them from reporting the church as a cult.Their Bible is the book "Dianetics" by L. Ron Hubbard which has been updated many times even though Hubbard has been Dead for many years.I guess they have a very good medium in their midst.As to why do they have so many celebrities as members that I'm afraid cannot be answered as who knows what another person thinks or really believes. |
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Schmengus_jr
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| Posted: Sun May 02, 2004 7:53 pm Post subject: |
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| thank you for clearing this up |
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cap'n queasy
Joined: 15 May 2004
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| Posted: Sat May 15, 2004 12:26 pm Post subject: |
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| Did you know the longest running court case in America is The church of scientology VS the IRS. This one very f****d up cult. My uncle is in it and tried to get me interested in it. There is so much wacked stuff I don't know where to begin. |
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DrD
Joined: 05 Jan 2004
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Location: Florida
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| Posted: Sun Jun 06, 2004 4:49 pm Post subject: |
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| The founder of Scientology was L. Ron Hubbard. He was a SCIENCE FICTION WRITER. I look at scientology the same way. . . .it's science fiction. :lol: |
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cap'n queasy
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| Posted: Sun Jun 06, 2004 4:52 pm Post subject: |
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| I think he said once " The best way to get rich is create your own religion" he also created some very mediocre Sci-Fi. I can't believe people believe this tripe. |
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John Galt
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| Posted: Sun Jun 06, 2004 4:58 pm Post subject: |
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And they finally settled that lawsuit where they allowed a woman to die because they didn't want a non-scietologist to examine her...
Its the religion for the rich hollywood dumb ***** like travolta... It makes no sense. You basically have to pay money to move up in the religion. More money, the higher you are regarded or whatever they do. |
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Bad_Bad_Fires
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| Posted: Mon Jun 07, 2004 12:47 pm Post subject: |
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cap'n queasy wrote: Did you know the longest running court case in America is The church of scientology VS the IRS. This one very f****d up cult. My uncle is in it and tried to get me interested in it. There is so much wacked stuff I don't know where to begin.
Ineresting. Could you state your source? |
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John
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| Posted: Thu Jun 17, 2004 9:26 am Post subject: |
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All you need to know....
http://www.xenu.net/ |
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One to Grow On
Joined: 26 May 2004
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| Posted: Thu Jun 17, 2004 10:10 am Post subject: |
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John wrote: All you need to know....
http://www.xenu.net/
Thanks John...lots of good info here...was wondering about this myself. |
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cap'n queasy
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| Posted: Fri Jun 18, 2004 3:15 pm Post subject: |
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| That is a good site. Seemed pretty truthful to me. I don't have an exact source, but it's a well known court case, look it up. |
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Sikoanalisis
Joined: 17 Jun 2004
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| Posted: Mon Jun 21, 2004 10:58 am Post subject: Well, |
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| I dunno. Final Blackout was a pretty good little novel. |
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toddytodd
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| Posted: Mon Jun 19, 2006 10:01 am Post subject: Re: Scientology |
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Schmengus_jr wrote: Whats up with scientology..what is it? ive heard some things about it, that it is a cult, and that they are devil worshipers.....will some1 explain it to me, and y do they have so many celebrity members?
South Park has done w decent job of explaining Scientology (interstingly enough)
This Wednesday (6/21) on the Comedy Channel, this is one of the "Scientology South Park' episodes.
It's worth checking out. If nothing, it is funny.
Once, for kicks, I got tracked down by a Scientologist in downtown Cincy Ohio. I had some time to kill while I waited so I decided to entertain these guys. I had to go into a room and take a test to determine my 'mental standing'. So I basically answered every question (about 200 of them if memory serves) the exact opposite way I would have honestly answered them. I was told I was 'seriously messed up!' (go figure).
The problem was I had a very difficult time getting them to allow me to leave. I felt sorry for the two young girls that were in there. They looked actually frightened while I was there. Luckily, they were able to sneak out when no one was looking. |
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Enoch
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| Posted: Mon Jun 19, 2006 10:30 am Post subject: |
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| I have no problems with Scientology itself. My problems are with the Church of Scientology (the organization). They sue practically anyone who dares crticize them or use their teachings against them, all because they copyright the material. Therefore, criticisms against them, in which their material is used to support claims, is brought in to court under copyright infringement. |
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toddytodd
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| Posted: Mon Jun 19, 2006 11:48 am Post subject: |
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UrielsFyre wrote: I have no problems with Scientology itself. My problems are with the Church of Scientology (the organization). They sue practically anyone who dares crticize them or use their teachings against them, all because they copyright the material. Therefore, criticisms against them, in which their material is used to support claims, is brought in to court under copyright infringement.
That is because, I believe, it is more of a business than anything else. |
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cup2006Sens
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| Posted: Mon Jun 19, 2006 11:58 am Post subject: |
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To me it is a nutty cult. But really it has no more or less validity than Christianity or Islam. It just is newer and less people believe it.
To me it doesn't seem that much different than the catholic church with it's secrecy and cult like nature. |
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toddytodd
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| Posted: Mon Jun 19, 2006 12:05 pm Post subject: |
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cup2006Sens wrote: To me it is a nutty cult. But really it has no more or less validity than Christianity or Islam. It just is newer and less people believe it.
To me it doesn't seem that much different than the catholic church with it's secrecy and cult like nature.
At least you don't have to pay money to join the catholic church
But I do see your general point. Christianity seemed nutty at first I would think |
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cup2006Sens
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| Posted: Mon Jun 19, 2006 12:36 pm Post subject: |
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toddytodd wrote: cup2006Sens wrote: To me it is a nutty cult. But really it has no more or less validity than Christianity or Islam. It just is newer and less people believe it.
To me it doesn't seem that much different than the catholic church with it's secrecy and cult like nature.
At least you don't have to pay money to join the catholic church
But I do see your general point. Christianity seemed nutty at first I would think
Yes in Cathoilc communities for hundreds of years people weren't forced to pay a tithe...... Oh wait they were forced to do that. |
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toddytodd
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| Posted: Mon Jun 19, 2006 12:57 pm Post subject: |
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cup2006Sens wrote: toddytodd wrote: cup2006Sens wrote: To me it is a nutty cult. But really it has no more or less validity than Christianity or Islam. It just is newer and less people believe it.
To me it doesn't seem that much different than the catholic church with it's secrecy and cult like nature.
At least you don't have to pay money to join the catholic church
But I do see your general point. Christianity seemed nutty at first I would think
Yes in Cathoilc communities for hundreds of years people weren't forced to pay a tithe...... Oh wait they were forced to do that.
In years past things were done differently than they are now for sure. Now it's tithe and offerings |
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Saf
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| Posted: Mon Jun 19, 2006 11:40 pm Post subject: |
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| Like most churches, Scientology attempts to stand in between man and god. |
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