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thebreadloaf2003
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| Posted: Fri Apr 28, 2006 6:54 pm Post subject: Disproving Satan??? |
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quick question that hopeful will spark somthing...
Why Hasn't anyone tried to disprove the exsitance of Satan?
I have seen numerous threads trying to prove and disprove god, but never one at attempt on satan. |
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cap'n queasy
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| Posted: Fri Apr 28, 2006 6:56 pm Post subject: |
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Good question. :lol:
I don't have a possible answer for that one. |
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sLiPpY
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| Posted: Fri Apr 28, 2006 7:01 pm Post subject: |
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| Perhaps, it's because many of us realize that Satan is a Persian myth. :wink: |
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Snarf
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| Posted: Fri Apr 28, 2006 8:25 pm Post subject: |
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Probably because Satan is currently called 'Mr. President'.
On a serious note, a Power that ‘helps’ the world fall apart is much more believable than a Power that ‘allows’ it to fall apart. Using only logic, it really makes the label ‘evil’ rather hard to assign… |
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feederband
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| Posted: Fri Apr 28, 2006 9:07 pm Post subject: |
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| If I don't believe in God why would I believe in Satan.? |
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psholtz
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| Posted: Sat Apr 29, 2006 12:01 am Post subject: |
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Satan is very real and he is an inseparable aspect of the "material" world which you inhabit. That said, he's not quite as "evil" as most men would like to think.. As a rule, evil happens when men abuse their God-given Free Will.. It doesn't happen just b/c "the devil made me do it".. Lame excuse. May have worked (on the ignorant) in centuries past, but today man is called to act and behave a little more responsibly.
The only trick lies in figuring out who he really is.. what his *real* identity is.
The answer lies in his name itself: the Accuser.
St. Paul drops another huge hint in 2 Cor 11:14 |
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sLiPpY
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| Posted: Sat Apr 29, 2006 1:25 am Post subject: |
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Snarf wrote: Probably because Satan is currently called 'Mr. President'.
On a serious note, a Power that ‘helps’ the world fall apart is much more believable than a Power that ‘allows’ it to fall apart. Using only logic, it really makes the label ‘evil’ rather hard to assign…
:think: btw...I wouldn't elevate ole' dumya, to the mythical competancy level of say...a "Satan." I can't remember all of the neat little demon names, from the books the Catholic clergy likes to hide on the top shelves of their libraries.
However, do find it appealing to consider 'Mr. President' no more than an imbecilic wart minion, one of the lesser creatures... |
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mattwa33193
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| Posted: Sat Apr 29, 2006 10:11 am Post subject: Re: Disproving Satan??? |
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thebreadloaf2003 wrote: quick question that hopeful will spark somthing...
Why Hasn't anyone tried to disprove the exsitance of Satan?
I have seen numerous threads trying to prove and disprove god, but never one at attempt on satan.
Because there aren't a lot of people saying you are a bad person if you don't believe in Satan? :)
Because if people believe that God created everything, disproving God would disprove Satan by default?
Disproving Satan would be a good idea, since God couldn't exist without His opposite. Not sure how you could do it, though. |
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thebreadloaf2003
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| Posted: Sat Apr 29, 2006 5:47 pm Post subject: Re: Disproving Satan??? |
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mattwa33193 wrote: thebreadloaf2003 wrote: quick question that hopeful will spark somthing...
Why Hasn't anyone tried to disprove the exsitance of Satan?
I have seen numerous threads trying to prove and disprove god, but never one at attempt on satan.
Because there aren't a lot of people saying you are a bad person if you don't believe in Satan? :)
Because if people believe that God created everything, disproving God would disprove Satan by default?
Disproving Satan would be a good idea, since God couldn't exist without His opposite. Not sure how you could do it, though.
well if there was book such as "paul's letters to the underword", disproving the devil would be easier with the textual references |
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psholtz
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| Posted: Sat Apr 29, 2006 6:42 pm Post subject: Re: Disproving Satan??? |
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thebreadloaf2003 wrote: well if there was book such as "paul's letters to the underword", disproving the devil would be easier with the textual references
Satan is not the same thing as the Devil, is he?
The number of devils is Legion, and they can be cast out whereever they may be found.. Satan, on the other hand, is *one*.. the Prince of Darkness, so to speak.
also, St. Paul does mention Satan repeatedly in his Epistles.. |
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sLiPpY
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| Posted: Sat Apr 29, 2006 10:42 pm Post subject: Re: Disproving Satan??? |
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psholtz wrote: thebreadloaf2003 wrote: well if there was book such as "paul's letters to the underword", disproving the devil would be easier with the textual references
Satan is not the same thing as the Devil, is he?
The number of devils is Legion, and they can be cast out whereever they may be found.. Satan, on the other hand, is *one*.. the Prince of Darkness, so to speak.
also, St. Paul does mention Satan repeatedly in his Epistles..
btw...St. Paul had a lil' too much lead in his quill. :wink: |
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