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Socalsocialist
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| Posted: Fri Apr 21, 2006 1:07 am Post subject: i have question |
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| ok i know i posted thing that was very crazy.But im still learning other partys and one i saw that was sumthing i agree with was the democratic socialist party. also libertarian sounds interesting. could u guys explain those to me |
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Demonic Spoon
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| Posted: Fri Apr 21, 2006 1:31 am Post subject: |
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wHat do you mean democratic socialists? You mean democrats? They are generally for more government in economics, welfare, and support more "Fair trade" than "free trade". Overall, they lean closer to socialism.
Libertarians believe in minimal government. That is, the only thing government should be doing is protecting the rights of the citizens. We believe welfare and social security should be abolished, and private charities can fill the gap (Note: not all of us fully support this). We think people should be free to live their lives HOWEVER they please as long as it does not infringe on the rights of others-life, liberty, and property. |
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Æ
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| Posted: Fri Apr 21, 2006 1:42 am Post subject: Re: i have question |
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Socalsocialist wrote: ok i know i posted thing that was very crazy.But im still learning other partys and one i saw that was sumthing i agree with was the democratic socialist party. also libertarian sounds interesting. could u guys explain those to me
Try this short and to the point quiz. |
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Gus
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| Posted: Fri Apr 21, 2006 3:40 am Post subject: |
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"Stances" of the Democratic Socialists of America
Democratic socialists basically want "democratic" control of the economy, which means a command economy commanded mostly by a democratic process. They also believe in enforcing social equality...
Platform of the Libertarian Party
Libertarians want the opposite--private ownership of property and the economy, and a move to a laissez faire system.
While Democratic Socialists see society as forming the individual, Libertarians see the individual as forming society...so Libertarians reject most forms of government intervention that Democratic Socialists support, like enforcement of social equality.
The two are almost total opposites. |
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Socalsocialist
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| Posted: Fri Apr 21, 2006 10:33 pm Post subject: on the quiz |
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| what the hell does subsidies mean? |
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Socalsocialist
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| Posted: Fri Apr 21, 2006 10:38 pm Post subject: |
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1) Libertarian Party 63%
2) Reform Party 63%
3) Green Party 58%
4) Republican Party 53%
5) Democratic Party 42%
6) Natural Law Party 42%
7) Constitution Party 42% |
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Stygma
Joined: 28 Sep 2005
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Location: Boulder, Colorado
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| Posted: Fri Apr 21, 2006 10:42 pm Post subject: |
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| I don't think you sound like a libertarian. :shock: |
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Socalsocialist
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| Posted: Fri Apr 21, 2006 10:48 pm Post subject: |
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| ya. but at same time. i made that group wit my friends lol. and i changed it a littel for them too and msot of the mare bunch of peopel that hate jews and r nazis lol. one friend is socalist and one is jsut really political smart. i looked at libertarian preamble. i agree wit msot of the stuff. i think im guna make new accoutn wit diff name. |
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socalmasta666
Joined: 21 Apr 2006
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Location: California
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| Posted: Fri Apr 21, 2006 11:12 pm Post subject: |
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| oh i made new name.lol i found out im not socialist and i really agree wit mso tstuff libertarians believe in |
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Protostar
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Location: Raleigh, North Carolina
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| Posted: Mon Apr 24, 2006 8:03 pm Post subject: |
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| Are you saying you made a new account? Cause that can get you banned. And please learn how to spell. Reading your posts are painful. |
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zero18
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Just curious Socal, what do you think should be the primary role of government? Do you believe in positive rights (ie rights to health care, a "reasonable" wage, etc.?), do you believe in negative rights (ie rights to life, free speech, etc.?) or do you believe in both?
Before making a decision on what party should represent your views research a little more. I'll direct you to some overviews of libertarianism since you seem curious of that ideology.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Libertarianism
http://plato.stanford.edu/entries/libertarianism/
http://www2.sjsu.edu/orgs/libertarians/libertarianism2.html
and there's also different branches of libertarianism, such as left-libertarianism, anarcho-capitalism, and geolibertarianism (which is what I believe in).
http://www.answers.com/topic/geolibertarianism |
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Robin Hood
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socalmasta666 wrote: oh i made new name.lol i found out im not socialist and i really agree wit mso tstuff libertarians believe in
Cool, I think you made the right choice as your test results demonstrate....beware people may be a little harsh if you make too many typos. |
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Red Flag
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| Posted: Wed May 03, 2006 1:16 am Post subject: Re: i have question |
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Socalsocialist wrote: ok i know i posted thing that was very crazy.But im still learning other partys and one i saw that was sumthing i agree with was the democratic socialist party. also libertarian sounds interesting. could u guys explain those to me Return to school...with knowledge comes power.
Libertarians- Generally people who are for gun ownership, profit, and capitalism in general.
Democratic Socialists- Not sure this one makes much sense to me either... |
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Red Flag
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Socalsocialist wrote: 1) Libertarian Party 63%
2) Reform Party 63%
3) Green Party 58%
4) Republican Party 53%
5) Democratic Party 42%
6) Natural Law Party 42%
7) Constitution Party 42%
Oh no!!! Another Libertarian! |
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Robin Hood
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Red Flag wrote: Socalsocialist wrote: 1) Libertarian Party 63%
2) Reform Party 63%
3) Green Party 58%
4) Republican Party 53%
5) Democratic Party 42%
6) Natural Law Party 42%
7) Constitution Party 42%
Oh no!!! Another Libertarian!
Are you not a libertarian? |
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zero18
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| Posted: Thu May 04, 2006 2:47 pm Post subject: |
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Red Flag wrote: Socalsocialist wrote: 1) Libertarian Party 63%
2) Reform Party 63%
3) Green Party 58%
4) Republican Party 53%
5) Democratic Party 42%
6) Natural Law Party 42%
7) Constitution Party 42%
Oh no!!! Another Libertarian!
Well individuals do tend to favor freedom over slavery. :wink: |
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Shady
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| Posted: Thu May 04, 2006 6:24 pm Post subject: |
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zero18 wrote: Red Flag wrote: Socalsocialist wrote: 1) Libertarian Party 63%
2) Reform Party 63%
3) Green Party 58%
4) Republican Party 53%
5) Democratic Party 42%
6) Natural Law Party 42%
7) Constitution Party 42%
Oh no!!! Another Libertarian!
Well individuals do tend to favor freedom over slavery. :wink:
Even to me?? :shock: |
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Demonic Spoon
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| Posted: Thu May 04, 2006 7:11 pm Post subject: |
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| I don't think making new accounts necessarily is not allowed...I think it's only disallowed when you try and do it to circumvent suspensions. |
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Red Flag
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Robin Hood wrote: Red Flag wrote: Socalsocialist wrote: 1) Libertarian Party 63%
2) Reform Party 63%
3) Green Party 58%
4) Republican Party 53%
5) Democratic Party 42%
6) Natural Law Party 42%
7) Constitution Party 42%
Oh no!!! Another Libertarian!
Are you not a libertarian? I'm an Anarchist, not a minarchist. Yeah that's right.. I go all the way :lol: |
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Robin Hood
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| Posted: Mon May 08, 2006 6:09 pm Post subject: |
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Red Flag wrote: Robin Hood wrote: Red Flag wrote: Socalsocialist wrote: 1) Libertarian Party 63%
2) Reform Party 63%
3) Green Party 58%
4) Republican Party 53%
5) Democratic Party 42%
6) Natural Law Party 42%
7) Constitution Party 42%
Oh no!!! Another Libertarian!
Are you not a libertarian? I'm an Anarchist, not a minarchist. Yeah that's right.. I go all the way :lol:
Anarchists are libertarians too really, at least as an anarchist myself I'd rather have a libertarian state than any other. |
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