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[Saracen]

With chaos looming around the world, warmongering between Israel and Iran as well as the war on Iraq, and the recent events taking place in this world, do you agree or disagree that we are approaching the end of times?

I say that it's quite near: with the condition that the world is in, and the signs of chaos that are amok, I believe that this world is nearing its demise.

How about you guys?

[Topside]

I'm sure during almost every war post-Bible people have been sure it's the armageddon. I guess instead of running down the cobblestone roads yelling it at the tops of their lungs, they get to post it on the internet now. :wink:

Er, no. I reckon the end of times will be in six billion years or whatever when the sun engulfs our planet.

[Saracen]

Topside wrote: I'm sure during almost every war post-Bible people have been sure it's the armageddon. I guess instead of running down the cobblestone roads yelling it at the tops of their lungs, they get to post it on the internet now. :wink:

Er, no. I reckon the end of times will be in six billion years or whatever when the sun engulfs our planet.

Well, I do think it's possible that the sun will be one of the reasons for the demise of this planet, but these days, things are not looking up. :cry:

[Topside]

Saracen wrote: Topside wrote: I'm sure during almost every war post-Bible people have been sure it's the armageddon. I guess instead of running down the cobblestone roads yelling it at the tops of their lungs, they get to post it on the internet now. :wink:

Er, no. I reckon the end of times will be in six billion years or whatever when the sun engulfs our planet.

Well, I do think it's possible that the sun will be one of the reasons for the demise of this planet, but these days, things are not looking up. :cry:

I'm convinced mine will be regarded as the worst generation in history. We knew what was happening, we knew how to stop it (or at least slow it down) yet we did nothing. I guess if the climate changes enough it will be an end to a sort of times...

[ieatfood]

I think you are loony.

The world is better than it has ever been.
Let's rewind back to the 50's when were engaged in all out WORLD WAR!!

Compared to WWII, the Iraq war was simply a skirmish.

I would say that with the US domination of the world, the past few years have been of relative peace.

There will always be violence somewhere in the world. But there is a lot less violence today than there used to be.

I think you just perceive more violence because you are from the middle east. But the rest of the world is doing just fine.

[thefranzkafkafront]

People have been predicting the end times since time began.

I know its pretty core to most relgions, but honeslty an end time seems sort of unlikely.

[feederband]

Maybe close to the end of our time....Probably Will be to something we can't even see..I think some kind of virus will finally mutate to the point we will be defenseless against it then something else will rule ...The question is what...

[thebreadloaf2003]

yes in the sense of the end of times for man is nearing an end. with nuclear weapons and weapons of mass destruction being more advanced than ever before, the ability to hide, manipulate, and disguise what is most secret to a country bent of world destruction...its only a matter of time.

you can see it on this site...people arguing with people, people begining to hate people. disagrreances turn to anger that turn to debates.

eventually the structure of society will crumble and with it, so will the huiman race.

[Saracen]

ieatfood wrote: I think you are loony.

The world is better than it has ever been.
Let's rewind back to the 50's when were engaged in all out WORLD WAR!!

Compared to WWII, the Iraq war was simply a skirmish.

I would say that with the US domination of the world, the past few years have been of relative peace.

There will always be violence somewhere in the world. But there is a lot less violence today than there used to be.

I think you just perceive more violence because you are from the middle east. But the rest of the world is doing just fine.

I suggest YOU take a better look and refrain from insults.

[Todd D.]

Are we "approaching" the end times? By definition, time is moving forward, so yes, I'd say that we are.

Are we close? I don't know. I don't think that we are supposed to know.

[Saracen]

Todd D. wrote: Are we "approaching" the end times? By definition, time is moving forward, so yes, I'd say that we are.

Are we close? I don't know. I don't think that we are supposed to know.

Good point, considering that God makes us doubtful over its time so we may do what is right and what pleases Him... from a religious point.

What do you think?

[Saracen]

thebreadloaf2003 wrote: yes in the sense of the end of times for man is nearing an end. with nuclear weapons and weapons of mass destruction being more advanced than ever before, the ability to hide, manipulate, and disguise what is most secret to a country bent of world destruction...its only a matter of time.

you can see it on this site...people arguing with people, people begining to hate people. disagrreances turn to anger that turn to debates.

eventually the structure of society will crumble and with it, so will the huiman race.

Another good point.

[cap'n queasy]

Quote: 1Th 5:3 -
While they are saying, "Peace and safety!" then destruction will come upon them suddenly like labor pains upon a woman with child, and they will not escape.


The branch has budded and the leaves have appeared, we are in the summer of humanity's time here.

In the word's of Y'shua.
Quote: Matthew 24:32 "Now learn the parable from the fig tree: when its branch has already become tender and puts forth its leaves, you know that summer is near; 33 so, you too, when you see all these things, recognize that He is near, right at the door. 34 "Truly I say to you, this generation will not pass away until all these things take place. 35 "Heaven and earth will pass away, but My words will not pass away. 36 "But of that day and hour no one knows, not even the angels of heaven, nor the Son, but the Father alone. 37 "For the coming of the Son of Man will be just like the days of Noah. 38 "For as in those days before the flood they were eating and drinking, marrying and giving in marriage, until the day that Noah entered the ark, 39 and they did not understand until the flood came and took them all away; so will the coming of the Son of Man be. 40 "Then there will be two men in the field; one will be taken and one will be left. 41 "Two women will be grinding at the mill; one will be taken and one will be left. 42 "Therefore be on the alert, for you do not know which day your Lord is coming. 43 "But be sure of this, that if the head of the house had known at what time of the night the thief was coming, he would have been on the alert and would not have allowed his house to be broken into. 44 "For this reason you also must be ready; for the Son of Man is coming at an hour when you do not think He will. 45 "Who then is the faithful and sensible slave whom his master put in charge of his household to give them their food at the proper time? 46 "Blessed is that slave whom his master finds so doing when he comes. 47 "Truly I say to you that he will put him in charge of all his possessions. 48 "But if that evil slave says in his heart, 'My master is not coming for a long time,' 49 and begins to beat his fellow slaves and eat and drink with drunkards; 50 the master of that slave will come on a day when he does not expect him and at an hour which he does not know, 51 and will cut him in pieces and assign him a place with the hypocrites; in that place there will be weeping and gnashing of teeth.

I pray that all will come to see what this means. And why we should not be beating each other up. We should all renounce war and violence. And quit making excuses for this. And I mean everyone, not just one group. If we love our brothers and sisters maybe we will all be saved.

Quote: Re 13:10 -
If anyone is destined for captivity, to captivity he goes; if anyone kills with the sword, with the sword he must be killed. Here is the perseverance and the faith of the saints.

God Bless you all.

[connermt]

If you believe in the 'end times', then everyday we are one day closer of course. But people have always thought we are in the 'end times'. I suppose that is true in the most strict view. One thing for sure, there is enough hate & jealousy in the world, combined with all the weapons humans have now, that it isn't looking good for humanity regardless of your religious views or lack of.
:(
Religion is going to be the cause of a lot of human suffering yet to come - shame really

[ieatfood]

Saracen wrote: ieatfood wrote: I think you are loony.

The world is better than it has ever been.
Let's rewind back to the 50's when were engaged in all out WORLD WAR!!

Compared to WWII, the Iraq war was simply a skirmish.

I would say that with the US domination of the world, the past few years have been of relative peace.

There will always be violence somewhere in the world. But there is a lot less violence today than there used to be.

I think you just perceive more violence because you are from the middle east. But the rest of the world is doing just fine.

I suggest YOU take a better look and refrain from insults.

i have already taken a very good look
its not my fault you are delusional

WWII took 62 million lives. 62 million. How many died in the Iraq war?? Peanuts. Iraq only has 26 million people living today. So even if we were to kill every person in Iraq twice over, it still wouldn't be as bad as WWII. 6 million Jews were killed. That's more than the total number of Palestinians alive today. You're gonna tell me that the middle east conflict even compares? That's ridiculous.

lets see what was happenning back then. we had germany invading europe (attacking norway, denmark, france, poland, luxemburg, belgium, netherlands, and britain), russia invading germany, japan attacking china, japan invading the philipines while fighting britain, britain and italy both invading africa with fighting each other, italy attacking greece, the usa re-invading europe, japan attacking the us, us nuking japan.

by the end, 70% of the industrial infrastructure of europe had been destroyed.

you gonna tell me that what's going on today is worse? gimme a break.

do you have any idea what you are talking about?

things are MUCH better today than they were in the past. That's for sure.

[psholtz]

There's no such thing as "end times"..

The world's not going to "end".. at least, not for billions of more years.

However, we are at the end of one age and the dawn of a new one (this happens about once every 2,000 years). As the world moves through this transition, I would expect to see more people dying in large numbers (tsunamis and so forth), but no, it's not the "end" of the "world"

[snow]

People keep saying that others have been predicting the end of times for quite some time now. True, but there were not nuclear weapons then. There is now. The Soviets and the Americans having nuclear weapons was a lot more stable than countries like Iran and North Korea having them, especially because the emergence of Islamic fundamentalism. Unless problems like that are cleaned up, I can see the "end of times."

[perdidochas]

Saracen wrote: With chaos looming around the world, warmongering between Israel and Iran as well as the war on Iraq, and the recent events taking place in this world, do you agree or disagree that we are approaching the end of times?

I say that it's quite near: with the condition that the world is in, and the signs of chaos that are amok, I believe that this world is nearing its demise.

How about you guys?

I think it will be a surprise. We should be prepared for the end of times at all times.

[ieatfood]

snow wrote: People keep saying that others have been predicting the end of times for quite some time now. True, but there were not nuclear weapons then. There is now. The Soviets and the Americans having nuclear weapons was a lot more stable than countries like Iran and North Korea having them, especially because the emergence of Islamic fundamentalism. Unless problems like that are cleaned up, I can see the "end of times."

you don't know how close we came to total nuclear anihilation
during the cold war, russia was 15 minutes away from launching an all out nuclear attack against the us
one of the satillites had mistaken a flock of birds for a US nuclear missile launch
they were about 15 minutes away from turning the US into a giant glass parking lot.
it was only by dumb luck that this one was averted.

Compared to that, I don't see how you can say that our situation today is more unstable.

Please explain.

I think that every generation likes to think that its "problems" are the most important ones in human history. But if you look objectively at what has happenned in the past, our problems are quite insignificant.

[thebreadloaf2003]

connermt wrote: If you believe in the 'end times', then everyday we are one day closer of course. But people have always thought we are in the 'end times'. I suppose that is true in the most strict view. One thing for sure, there is enough hate & jealousy in the world, combined with all the weapons humans have now, that it isn't looking good for humanity regardless of your religious views or lack of.
:(
Religion is going to be the cause of a lot of human suffering yet to come - shame really

if you look at the upside of all this anticipated destruction, it is really a beautiful thing. Think of a person with AIDS who is told he has 6 moths to live. That person will either treat every day as a saction of his life, and what he will be remembered by; or he will rue and lement living only to die prematurley.

personaly i enjoy the thought of impending doom, the world ending, all life as we know it....ceasing to be. it gives my reason to live, to make the decisions i make, and further ensures my dependability in myself to finish something i started.