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[Askim]

Quicksurf wrote: RICARDO I wrote: Askim

Hitler is dead!... but his thinking lives on!
:clap:

Ya I agree! The thought of a debt free society and independence from the world bank and foreign markets is alive and well in Iran. This is what Hitler was up too. Bucking the world bank is a no, no to the power elite!

[Mucks]

Zoot wrote: Simon,

That is exactly what HITLER would say. So you're just like Hitler. So you're wrong.

Gosh, arguing's easy.

Wait, what?

[Kumar]

Good for Iran! :clap:

[Jawbreaker Tenderpain]

Iran is wise to follow the strategy of DPRK.

See how the US will not attack?

Praise Ahmadinejad.

[Askim]

Jawbreaker Tenderpain wrote: Iran is wise to follow the strategy of DPRK.

See how the US will not attack?

Praise Ahmadinejad.

Bush wouldnt f%$k with the DPRK with a 10 foot pole!!! He knows he is a fake, cowboy, chearleader, coward. He is only, really, just a sheperd, with some dumb sheep. Long live, the forces that confront, the dogmatic powers that be!!!!!

[Quicksurf]

Askim wrote: Quicksurf wrote: RICARDO I wrote: Askim

Hitler is dead!... but his thinking lives on!
:clap:

Ya I agree! The thought of a debt free society and independence from the world bank and foreign markets is alive and well in Iran. This is what Hitler was up too. Bucking the world bank is a no, no to the power elite!

I was referring more to the anti-semetism that still exists. A lot of people still believe that Nazi ideology has disappeared, yet it still exists in the Middle East.

As for the rest of your post, I have no idea what you are rambling about. A really poor attempt at being sarcastic, I suppose.

[Askim]

Quicksurf wrote: Askim wrote: Quicksurf wrote: RICARDO I wrote: Askim

Hitler is dead!... but his thinking lives on!
:clap:

Ya I agree! The thought of a debt free society and independence from the world bank and foreign markets is alive and well in Iran. This is what Hitler was up too. Bucking the world bank is a no, no to the power elite!

I was referring more to the anti-semetism that still exists. A lot of people still believe that Nazi ideology has disappeared, yet it still exists in the Middle East.

As for the rest of your post, I have no idea what you are rambling about. A really poor attempt at being sarcastic, I suppose.

What do you define as Anti-semitism???

And Nazi ideology is alive and well in the middle east. Isreal fills the gap they left very well. She persacutes her arab neighbours alot cleaner though. They have managed to control world perception of there persacution up till this point. Therefor, I would make them a little more skilled than the Nazi's in that department. And my rasmblings were about the true reasons for world war 2. If you want me to ellaborate, I can!! Debt free societies are a no,NO!!!!!

[spailpin]

some of you have your heads screwed on. and thats good. you've analysed the situation see the western propaganda machine for what it is, understand the business interests in all of it and have drawn some pretty sound conclusions. im heartened

some of you are complete raving lunatics. i always find raving lunatics hard to respod to so..... booga looga wooga loo to you all. i'm perplexed

but scariest of all some of you are intelligent?, articulate individuals who seriously beleive that iran are gonna nuke either israel or north america or somewhere that wouldn't be nice and that the best thing that your government could do would be to tear into that enormous country (geographically and demographically) and start gently persuading people, using tanks and guns and helicopters and bombs and missiles and planes and humvees and soldiers, to see your way of thinking.

well i must say.

its just so crazy it might work! not.

who controls the wealth of the world.
how do they maintain control.
what would limit or lessen that control.......

yes yes.... your nearly there... yes...oh no! youve lost it again, playstation and fox network have taken over xenephobia and insular politics prevail, exterminate.....nuke them all!!!!!!

help i'm the voice of reason and i feel marginalised

[Askim]

Quote: help i'm the voice of reason and i feel marginalised

I got your back brother!!!!!

Still,, not one of you neo crazies can provide me with proof of the pres of Iran threataning to destroy Isreal the country!!! he wants to destroy the Zionist powers that control Isreal. And imho, control the rest of the world!!

[WesternWall]

Kumar wrote: Good for Iran!

You want nuclear holocaust?

[WesternWall]

Askim wrote:
What do you define as Anti-semitism???

Merriam Webster dictionary defines it as prejudice or violence against Jews, in case you're not clear about what this term means. Is English a new language for you?

Quote: And Nazi ideology is alive and well in the middle east. Isreal fills the gap they left very well.

That is typical rhetoric from anti-semites like yourself to call the Jews by the names of their murderers.

Quote: She persacutes her arab neighbours alot cleaner though.

Israel DEFENDS herself from your arab buddies who would love nothing better than to murder every Jew in Israel and beyond. As for persecution, arabs are doing that in Darfur and elsewhere. Israel mostly just wants security from your terrorist buddies.

Quote: They have managed to control world perception of there persacution up till this point. Therefor, I would make them a little more skilled than the Nazi's in that department.

You are engaging in the most disgusting rhetoric against Jews. You must be so proud.

[Kumar]

WesternWall wrote: Kumar wrote: Good for Iran!

You want nuclear holocaust?
I suppose that depends on how the US conducts itself, doesn't it?

[WesternWall]

Kumar wrote: WesternWall wrote: Kumar wrote: Good for Iran!

You want nuclear holocaust?
I suppose that depends on how the US conducts itself, doesn't it?

No, it depends on whether the world will allow president antisemitejad to obtain nuclear weapons.

[Jawbreaker Tenderpain]

Quicksurf wrote: I was referring more to the anti-semetism that still exists. A lot of people still believe that Nazi ideology has disappeared, yet it still exists in the Middle East.

The Nazi's were White Supremacists.

Like Dick Cheney, the man who encouraged doing business with the Afrikaaner apartheid "regime", and who would keep Nelson Mandela locked up.

[Kumar]

WesternWall wrote: Kumar wrote: WesternWall wrote: Kumar wrote: Good for Iran!

You want nuclear holocaust?
I suppose that depends on how the US conducts itself, doesn't it?

No, it depends on whether the world will allow president antisemitejad to obtain nuclear weapons.
Which they will probably have to do, considering the fact that Iran can choose to hold occupied Iraq hostage whenever it pleases. Anyways, the Iranian regime is interested in self-preservation, not self-destruction. Any nuclear arsenal constructed would be for the purposes of deterrance, not any first-strike attack.

[Askim]

[quote="WesternWall"] Askim wrote:
What do you define as Anti-semitism???

Merriam Webster dictionary defines it as prejudice or violence against Jews, in case you're not clear about what this term means. Is English a new language for you?

Quote: And Nazi ideology is alive and well in the middle east. Isreal fills the gap they left very well.

That is typical rhetoric from anti-semites like yourself to call the Jews by the names of their murderers.

Quote: She persacutes her arab neighbours alot cleaner though.

Israel DEFENDS herself from your arab buddies who would love nothing better than to murder every Jew in Israel and beyond. As for persecution, arabs are doing that in Darfur and elsewhere. Israel mostly just wants security from your terrorist buddies.

Quote: They have managed to control world perception of there persacution up till this point. Therefor, I would make them a little more skilled than the Nazi's in that department.

You are engaging in the most disgusting rhetoric against Jews. You must be so proud.

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First of allI would refer you to.." what Zionism really is thread.\"

Second of all I could care less what Miriam Webster says about Zionism. That is there zionist definition designed to be consumed. I have my own brain and the free will and ability to exercise critical thiught and common sense. I have read, and learned enough to make my own conclusion on what Zionism is.

I must point out clearly to all of the readers that this is Zionism right in you face!!! Smears and scare tactics. Call me a jew hater and say my buddies are terrorists. This is how Zionism battles. I challenge all of you to go on google and type in " Jews against Zionism".
Now tell me what you label these people. Let me guess " self hating jews." You see people this is Zionism right up close. Either by design or ignorance. This is what it is.
Quote: That is typical rhetoric from anti-semites like yourself to call the Jews by the names of their murderers.

^^ My point exactly!!! More, Zionist rhetoric.

Quote: You are engaging in the most disgusting rhetoric against Jews. You must be so proud.

This statmenet above all demonstrates true Zionism!! I have no contempt for the jewish people. I love jewish people. I dislke strongly the ideology of Zionism. This is why the president of Iran called for the desruction of the ZIONIST POWERS THAT CONTROL ISREAL< AND WESTERN GOVERNMENTS. NOT THE DESTRUCTION OF THE JEWISH PEOPLE!!!

I challenge all of you to go on google and type in JEWS AGAINST ZIONISM. You will see who is telling you the truth. And who is scaring you into subjegation with there Zionist propaganda.

What will you say about these JEWS? Lets guess, typical Zionist propaganda would have you believe they are "self hating Jews". LOL! Really I bet thats what some of you will say.

Remember people,, my question hasnt been answered. Just smears and false aqusations to discredit. Common zionist tactics. My question is : Provide me with evidence that the president of iran called for the destruction of isreal or the jewish people as a whole and you win. All he said was , he wanted the destruction of the zionist powers that control isreal and the west. So do these people...

http://www.jewsagainstzionism.com/

http://www.nkusa.org/

http://www.jewsnotzionists.org/

[Askim]

Wow!!! That was easy!!! I win!!!

[spailpin]

Askim wrote: Wow!!! That was easy!!! I win!!!

of course you win. as long as you stick to using facts in an argument and not depending upon prejudice, rhetoric, nonsense and playing to the lowest common demoninator in any forum, platform or soapbox. these tactics epitomise what the status quo of the world invests their time in. creating illusions to justify heinous actions and then villifying anyone who speaks out against them. people are generally dumbed down by crap so as to make them apathetic to the political regime underwhich they live, north america, europe, wherever and feeling impotent to change it. but some analyse and confront and others (and these guys are my particular favorite) actively fight for and believe in the nonsense espoused by regimes so obviously bent on monopoly, greed and individualism at the expense of the mass majority of the world population, the working class. anyway, battle on in your silly little worlds of make beleive politics, meanwhile your governments i.e big business are dominating the world more effectively than any other ideology or system that has ever come before and leaving chaos in their wake and generally streamlining and polarising inequality across the globe. halleluia or whatever other religious mumbo jumbo your in to.

incidentally on the anti semitism, israel palestine thing,

look into the not too distant history. when was israel created? who created it? who benfeits from its continuing existence and the oppression of palestine.

and i notice you people don't like answering the tough questions. whats that all about. i put another post in on this debate and no one ackknowledged it. maybe i was right and you all agreed. i hope we reach the same consensus on this point. i'll view it as the class progressing.
answers on my desk please....