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[SilveryMinnow]

Iran could get electricity by rubbing balloons over all the Hair on the Iranian presidents body.

[Saracen]

SilveryMinnow wrote: Iran could get electricity by rubbing balloons over all the Hair on the Iranian presidents body.

:rotf: But it won't be enough, though...

[yETII90]

Saracen wrote: SilveryMinnow wrote: Iran could get electricity by rubbing balloons over all the Hair on the Iranian presidents body.

:rotf: But it won't be enough, though...

That guy is a f***ing monkey, or at least looks the part, so I think the beard would be enough for the Middle East. :lol:

[SilveryMinnow]

Guess we all know now, what happened to "Eddie Munster." :-D

[Demonic Spoon]

Oh please. Dictators are driven by power. He loses power if he uses his nukes.

[Simon De Montfort]

Saracen wrote: Simon De Montfort wrote: The danger is that the Iranisn leadership is a pack of suicidal fanatics. And they're the ones that with their finger on the button. And I think they would willingly sacrifice their own people in a nuclear exchange to wipe out Israel. Many innocent people in Iran and Israel will die if Mahmoud Ahmadinejad gets his way.

Get real, Simon. Ahmadinejad may be a nutty, but he's not that stupid to fall for nuclear devastation. They have yet to build nukes and have yet to build as much centrifuges to meet that amount. That being said, I highly doubt that they will use nukes or even build them. Even if they did, they'd use them as deterrents.

I judge a man by what he says and does. If he says stupid things I expect him to do stupid things.

Quote: Also, there are Israeli operatives in Iran. If these operatives are trying to goad Iran into attacking Tel Aviv or some other Israeli town, ten don't expect the Iranians to be at fault if these operatives do so.

Let me get this straight. You trust Ahmadinejad, a person who denies the holocaust and has called for the destruction of Israel twice, not to launch a nuke attack on Israel. But you think Israeli opperatives might goad Iran into attacking Israel.

:koo:

You just lost a lot of credibility with me.

Quote: Simon De Montfort wrote: You do know he called for the "annihilation" of Israel again today?

Yes, I caught that. It's usual, really. He just spews out so much rhetoric and the media magnifies it. I'll bet that they misquoted him on this one as well.

Yea Ahmadinejad is a great guy who is just misunderstood. :roll:

Care to explain to me how this is misquoted?

"The Zionist regime is a rotten, dried tree that will be eliminated by one storm."

Article Here

That sound rather ominus coming for the leader of a country pursuing nuclear weapns.

I get it. Israeli opperatives put Mahmoud Ahmadinejad up to it. :roll:

[Saracen]

Simon De Montfort wrote: I judge a man by what he says and does. If he says stupid things I expect him to do stupid things.

Hm... I judged Bush by what he said at first, but when he did something stupid, I thought otherwise. Actions speak louder than words.

Simon De Montfort wrote: Let me get this straight. You trust Ahmadinejad, a person who denies the holocaust and has called for the destruction of Israel twice, not to launch a nuke attack on Israel. But you think Israeli opperatives might goad Iran into attacking Israel.

I don't trust Ahmadinejad, but Israeli operatives would do such a thing.

Simon De Montfort wrote: You just lost a lot of credibility with me.

Since when did you have it?

Simon De Montfort wrote: Yea Ahmadinejad is a great guy who is just misunderstood.

Care to explain to me how this is misquoted?

"The Zionist regime is a rotten, dried tree that will be eliminated by one storm."

Article Here

That sound rather ominus coming for the leader of a country pursuing nuclear weapns.

I get it. Israeli opperatives put Mahmoud Ahmadinejad up to it.

Sure.

Al Jazeera wrote: Iranian leaders have accused the US of trying to place the Middle East under Israeli control and predicted the "elimination" of the Jewish state

[...]

"If there is serious doubt over the Holocaust, there is no doubt over the catastrophe and holocaust being faced by the Palestinians"

Ahmed Ahmadinejad,
Iranian president

It's obvious that he's speaking from a non-aggressive point of view. The western media is launching a propaganda war on Iran.

[Simon De Montfort]

Saracen wrote:
Al Jazeera wrote: Iranian leaders have accused the US of trying to place the Middle East under Israeli control and predicted the "elimination" of the Jewish state

[...]

"If there is serious doubt over the Holocaust, there is no doubt over the catastrophe and holocaust being faced by the Palestinians"

Ahmed Ahmadinejad,
Iranian president

It's obvious that he's speaking from a non-aggressive point of view. The western media is launching a propaganda war on Iran.

Are you sure this aritcle backs up your position?

Quote: "Whether you like it or not, the Zionist regime is on the road to being eliminated," added Ahmadinejad, who drew international condemnation last year when he said Israel should be "wiped off the map."

That sounds agressive to me.

Quote: "If there is serious doubt over the Holocaust, there is no doubt over the catastrophe and holocaust being faced by the Palestinians," said the president, who had previously dismissed as a "myth" the killing of an estimated six million Jews by the Nazis and their allies during the second world war.

He is denying the holocaust again. That's an attack on one of the main reason the modern state of Israel was founded.

Quote: In his speech on Friday, Ayatollah Khamenei accused the United States of conspiring to place the entire Middle East under Israeli control.

"The plots by the American government against Iran, Iraq, Syria and Lebanon aimed at governing the Middle East with the control of the Zionist regime will not succeed," he said.

This is blatantly false. The Iranian leader is trying to stir up sentiment to Justify an attack by Iran.

And this is coming for YOUR article. No western media attempt to stir up trouble. The Iranian leadership is doing it all on their own.

[Saracen]

Simon De Montfort wrote: Saracen wrote:
Al Jazeera wrote: Iranian leaders have accused the US of trying to place the Middle East under Israeli control and predicted the "elimination" of the Jewish state

[...]

"If there is serious doubt over the Holocaust, there is no doubt over the catastrophe and holocaust being faced by the Palestinians"

Ahmed Ahmadinejad,
Iranian president

It's obvious that he's speaking from a non-aggressive point of view. The western media is launching a propaganda war on Iran.

Are you sure this aritcle backs up your position?

Quote: "Whether you like it or not, the Zionist regime is on the road to being eliminated," added Ahmadinejad, who drew international condemnation last year when he said Israel should be "wiped off the map."

That sounds agressive to me.

Not to me. His speech was again taken out of context. Note the red part I highlighted. He's predicting that it would in the long run be eliminated.

Quote: Quote: "If there is serious doubt over the Holocaust, there is no doubt over the catastrophe and holocaust being faced by the Palestinians," said the president, who had previously dismissed as a "myth" the killing of an estimated six million Jews by the Nazis and their allies during the second world war.

He is denying the holocaust again. That's an attack on one of the main reason the modern state of Israel was founded.

No. The Holocaust, despite it being a reason, was not the biggest.

Balfour wrote: November 2nd, 1917

Dear Lord Rothschild,

I have much pleasure in conveying to you, on behalf of His Majesty's Government, the following declaration of sympathy with Jewish Zionist aspirations which has been submitted to, and approved by, the Cabinet.

"His Majesty's Government view with favour the establishment in Palestine of a national home for the Jewish people, and will use their best endeavours to facilitate the achievement of this object, it being clearly understood that nothing shall be done which may prejudice the civil and religious rights of existing non-Jewish communities in Palestine, or the rights and political status enjoyed by Jews in any other country."

I should be grateful if you would bring this declaration to the knowledge of the Zionist Federation.

Yours sincerely,

Arthur James Balfour

Guess you missed that.

Quote: Quote: In his speech on Friday, Ayatollah Khamenei accused the United States of conspiring to place the entire Middle East under Israeli control.

"The plots by the American government against Iran, Iraq, Syria and Lebanon aimed at governing the Middle East with the control of the Zionist regime will not succeed," he said.

This is blatantly false. The Iranian leader is trying to stir up sentiment to Justify an attack by Iran.

This is not surprising. Major lobbyists like AIPAC in the United States have always brought up incitements towards war and such.

Quote: And this is coming for YOUR article. No western media attempt to stir up trouble. The Iranian leadership is doing it all on their own.

Not really. The West has been stirring up more trouble than I can stir the soup in a broth.

[Swandazi]

Saracen wrote: Simon De Montfort wrote: I judge a man by what he says and does. If he says stupid things I expect him to do stupid things.

Hm... I judged Bush by what he said at first, but when he did something stupid, I thought otherwise. Actions speak louder than words.

Simon De Montfort wrote: Let me get this straight. You trust Ahmadinejad, a person who denies the holocaust and has called for the destruction of Israel twice, not to launch a nuke attack on Israel. But you think Israeli opperatives might goad Iran into attacking Israel.

I don't trust Ahmadinejad, but Israeli operatives would do such a thing.

Simon De Montfort wrote: You just lost a lot of credibility with me.

Since when did you have it?

Simon De Montfort wrote: Yea Ahmadinejad is a great guy who is just misunderstood.

Care to explain to me how this is misquoted?

"The Zionist regime is a rotten, dried tree that will be eliminated by one storm."

Article Here

That sound rather ominus coming for the leader of a country pursuing nuclear weapns.

I get it. Israeli opperatives put Mahmoud Ahmadinejad up to it.

Sure.

Al Jazeera wrote: Iranian leaders have accused the US of trying to place the Middle East under Israeli control and predicted the "elimination" of the Jewish state

[...]

"If there is serious doubt over the Holocaust, there is no doubt over the catastrophe and holocaust being faced by the Palestinians"

Ahmed Ahmadinejad,
Iranian president

It's obvious that he's speaking from a non-aggressive point of view. The western media is launching a propaganda war on Iran.

How do you know if their are Israely operatives inside Irans goverment? And what would be the point of the operatives convincing Iran to nuke them?

Swandazi

[Saracen]

Swandazi wrote: How do you know if their are Israely operatives inside Irans goverment? And what would be the point of the operatives convincing Iran to nuke them?

News reports. Google it up.

[Doc Holiday]

Quote: there are Israeli operatives in Iran. If these operatives are trying to goad Iran into attacking Tel Aviv or some other Israeli town, then don't expect the Iranians to be at fault if these operatives do so.

You leave me no option but to start believing that you are an Israeli operative working from Tel-Aviv, posting these stuff in order to make the Palestinians look bad.

I am very upset with my government for spending my tax money on hiring you. This kind of black propaganda is cheap and does not suit a democratic society. I am sure the Majority of Palestinians doesn’t really believe that we would go threw all this mess to protect Tel-Aviv from a bus being blown up when all along we have a secret plan to nuke it ourselves. (Which is bold, untested, highly questionable strategic plan, but "who dares wins", right?)

Not to mention the idea that decent Palestinians would really believe the idea that Israel, or any other nation for that, is a place where people “just don’t love their Children” - You are trying to make the Palestinians look like racist, inhuman monsters. Shame on you!

How dare you make it look like this is what Palestinians think? As a Jew, you should know better, so many lies have been spread about us; you have no right to start smearing them!

Now go to your Officer and tell him that you like the Palestinians and that you won’t participate in this evil anymore, REDEEM YOUR SOUL SARACAN!!!! (Or can I just call you “Shlomo”?)

[Saracen]

Doc Holiday wrote: Quote: there are Israeli operatives in Iran. If these operatives are trying to goad Iran into attacking Tel Aviv or some other Israeli town, then don't expect the Iranians to be at fault if these operatives do so.

You leave me no option but to start believing that you are an Israeli operative working from Tel-Aviv, posting these stuff in order to make the Palestinians look bad.

I am very upset with my government for spending my tax money on hiring you. This kind of black propaganda is cheap and does not suit a democratic society. I am sure the Majority of Palestinians doesn’t really believe that we would go threw all this mess to protect Tel-Aviv from a bus being blown up when all along we have a secret plan to nuke it ourselves. (Which is bold, untested, highly questionable strategic plan, but "who dares wins", right?)

Not to mention the idea that decent Palestinians would really believe the idea that Israel, or any other nation for that, is a place where people “just don’t love their Children” - You are trying to make the Palestinians look like racist, inhuman monsters. Shame on you!

How dare you make it look like this is what Palestinians think? As a Jew, you should know better, so many lies have been spread about us; you have no right to start smearing them!

Now go to your Officer and tell him that you like the Palestinians and that you won’t participate in this evil anymore, REDEEM YOUR SOUL SARACAN!!!! (Or can I just call you “Shlomo”?)

:rotf: Doc, you're a good man.

[Green]

There is no proof Iran Is making Nukes. They probably are just making electricity. I would be ticked off if Bush made the same mistake as Iraq and went in and found no weapons. Then there would be another country sliding into chaos, making people die, and wasting Taxpayer money. :x

[War Approving Democrat]

I believe that we should try peaceful relations first. Hopefully they will allow us to do inspection of facilities +p , but if they don't then to war with them and start a draft to get effective number of troops :1evil: . (I already plan on joining the Naval ROTC in collage or when i turn 18)

[Askim]

Simon De Montfort wrote: Zoot wrote: Simon,

That is exactly what HITLER would say. So you're just like Hitler. So you're wrong.

Gosh, arguing's easy.

um ... if you think that is a well made arguement ... well then .... never mind you wouldn't understand anyways.

If you're so naive to believe that Iran (a nation with an over abundance of oil) is pursuing nuclear enrichment to meet their energy needs then I have the bridge to sell you.

Let's not forget that they support terrorism against Israel and that they have called for the destruction of Israel.

Do think Mahmoud Ahmadinejad was joking?

Dude.... you gotta be truly stupid to believe the stuff you spout!!!

If you can find me any evidence that the president of Iran has called for the destruction of Isreal, I will conceed. You will not be able to. He called for the abolition of the powers that control Isreal the country. NOT the Jewish people!!! If you were versed in these things you would now that many Jews, and Isrealis feel the very same way. You are caught in there propaganda web. You repeat what you here like a good sheep.
And enriching uranum for energy is a very smart econmical move. To put it in some terms I think you might relate to, why would you smoke the stuff you sell. You sell too the base heads or,,, you can be a base head selling!!! All the Iranians are doing is succeding in becoming very economical sound and debt free. This is where the real problem lies...Debt free!! You wine and hollar about nuking poor Isreal , you sound like fox news dude. no matter what they do you will keep being told they are doing something wrong. Just like those darn WMD's noone found. WAKE UP!!!
Just to clue you in about poor little Isreal, they are non signatory to the NPT and have a huge illegal american supllied nuclear WEOPONS program. They have violated and ignored more UN sanctions than any other country on earth. But lets not look there,,, It them darn terrorists and Iranians , and that whole axis of evil that god revealed to his earth bound profit....WAKE UP YOU DUMB SHEEP!!!!!

[RICARDO I]

Nuclear arms, by the time they were used during World War II, 50 Million people of most nations had died in that war. The bombs killed over 150,000 people. If these bombs had not been used, how many more people would have died in this war? Nobody knows for sure. When I hear of nations that demonstrate their hate for other humans and nations, I see a Hitler in their leader. I only have one question for those who think that everybody should have these nuclear arms: Could you imagine if Hitler were alive today and had nuclear weapons?

You be the judge!

Ricardo I
Puerto Rico

[Askim]

RICARDO I wrote: Nuclear arms, by the time they were used during World War II, 50 Million people of most nations had died in that war. The bombs killed over 150,000 people. If these bombs had not been used, how many more people would have died in this war? Nobody knows for sure. When I hear of nations that demonstrate their hate for other humans and nations, I see a Hitler in their leader. I only have one question for those who think that everybody should have these nuclear arms: Could you imagine if Hitler were alive today and had nuclear weapons?

You be the judge!

Ricardo I
Puerto Rico

Hitler is dead!!!!! Lets move on please. These imaginary questions are a joke!!!! The Japanese surrenedred twice before the USA used nukes. If you watched the history channel you would know that. Iran has the right to nuclear energy!!! Thats all they are doing!!! You believed Iraq had WMD's, the same way you believe the Iranians are up to no good. Maybe the good they are up too is energy independence ,and a nation overrun with oil, that will have the fat gluuten americans begging for the next drop.

Wake up you dumb sheep!!!! BAAAAHHHHHHH

[RICARDO I]

Askim

Hitler is dead!... but his thinking lives on!

[Quicksurf]

RICARDO I wrote: Askim

Hitler is dead!... but his thinking lives on!
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