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forthegreatergood
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| Posted: Fri Apr 07, 2006 1:02 am Post subject: Humans relationship with Cows |
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Humans Relationships with fellow sentient creatures that humans call "cows".
Please feel free to debate and discuss.
Is what humans do to cows ethical?
Humans using cows for sport.(slavery)But remember, the make milk for you to exist. And you eat them.
Human eating a cow's flesh.
What impressions do you get when you see these images?
All images courtesy of google images. |
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Stygma
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| Posted: Fri Apr 07, 2006 1:27 am Post subject: Re: Humans relationship with Cows |
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forthegreatergood wrote:
What impressions do you get when you see these images?
Ummm, I'm hungry for a steak?
Of course it's ethical, they're just animals. |
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thintheherd
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| Posted: Fri Apr 07, 2006 2:08 am Post subject: Re: Humans relationship with Cows |
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Stygma wrote: forthegreatergood wrote:
What impressions do you get when you see these images?
Ummm, I'm hungry for a steak?
Of course it's ethical, they're just animals.
I second that, and damn... where's my T-bone? |
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OneZero
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| Posted: Fri Apr 07, 2006 7:05 am Post subject: Re: Humans relationship with Cows |
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forthegreatergood wrote: Humans Relationships with fellow sentient creatures that humans call "cows".
Please feel free to debate and discuss.
Is what humans do to cows ethical?
Yes it's ethical, as has been said, they're just animals and they aren't treated cruelly. |
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George W Bush
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| Posted: Fri Apr 07, 2006 10:19 am Post subject: |
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Bullriding and other things to do with abusing cows is cruel.
Eating them is one thing, but turning them into an entertainment device is sub-human. |
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OneZero
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| Posted: Fri Apr 07, 2006 10:23 am Post subject: |
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George W Bush wrote: Bullriding and other things to do with abusing cows is cruel.
Eating them is one thing, but turning them into an entertainment device is sub-human.
That's a matter of opinion. I don't think bullriding is cruel, and I see nothing wrong with using animals for entertainment. |
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Leon Czolgosz
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George W Bush wrote: Bullriding and other things to do with abusing cows is cruel.
Eating them is one thing, but turning them into an entertainment device is sub-human.
no it's not, besides, you don't get milk from a bull as the subtitle to the pic suggests.
animals are put on earth for human use, whether it's for food, entertainment, or jobs. Humans > animals |
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OneZero
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| Posted: Fri Apr 07, 2006 10:29 am Post subject: Re: Humans relationship with Cows |
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forthegreatergood wrote:
Humans using cows for sport.(slavery)But remember, the make milk for you to exist. And you eat them.
ROFL slavery????? :lol: |
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perdidochas
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| Posted: Fri Apr 07, 2006 10:44 am Post subject: Re: Humans relationship with Cows |
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forthegreatergood wrote: Humans Relationships with fellow sentient creatures that humans call "cows".
Please feel free to debate and discuss.
Is what humans do to cows ethical?
<snip image>
Humans using cows for sport.(slavery)But remember, the make milk for you to exist. And you eat them.
<snip image>
Human eating a cow's flesh.
<snip image>What impressions do you get when you see these images?
All images courtesy of google images.
I get hungry :-)
I'm not too concerned. Cows exist on this earth for us. If it weren't for humans, cows would go the way of the buffalo. |
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perdidochas
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| Posted: Fri Apr 07, 2006 10:54 am Post subject: |
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George W Bush wrote: Bullriding and other things to do with abusing cows is cruel.
Eating them is one thing, but turning them into an entertainment device is sub-human.
Bucking bulls enjoy what they are doing. |
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Infinite911911
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| Posted: Fri Apr 07, 2006 11:14 am Post subject: |
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perdidochas wrote: George W Bush wrote: Bullriding and other things to do with abusing cows is cruel.
Eating them is one thing, but turning them into an entertainment device is sub-human.
Bucking bulls enjoy what they are doing.
You've asked one? |
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perdidochas
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| Posted: Fri Apr 07, 2006 12:01 pm Post subject: |
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Infinite911911 wrote: perdidochas wrote: George W Bush wrote: Bullriding and other things to do with abusing cows is cruel.
Eating them is one thing, but turning them into an entertainment device is sub-human.
Bucking bulls enjoy what they are doing.
You've asked one?
It's as accurate as the initial posting about cows being slaves. |
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John Galt
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George W Bush wrote: Bullriding and other things to do with abusing cows is cruel.
Eating them is one thing, but turning them into an entertainment device is sub-human.
Well they are sub human. They are... hmmm... how can I explain this....
COWS.
What an all around useless animal other than for providing nourshiment and entertainment in the form of tippig to higher beings. |
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thefranzkafkafront
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Cow do not posses a sydersis, egro they are not moral agents.
Ethical actions can only involve more than one moral agent.
Actions on cows are aethical. |
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OneZero
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| Posted: Fri Apr 07, 2006 12:19 pm Post subject: |
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Infinite911911 wrote: perdidochas wrote: George W Bush wrote: Bullriding and other things to do with abusing cows is cruel.
Eating them is one thing, but turning them into an entertainment device is sub-human.
Bucking bulls enjoy what they are doing.
You've asked one?
It is as proveable as saying they DON'T like it. |
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George W Bush
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Bullriding is proof the animal objects to that form of entertainment.
Without it bucking, it wouldnt be such a hick sport.
So it expresses emotion this way.
But I will say I find it is funny when you hear of cowboys getting killed or severely harmed during their torture/bullriding. This is reprisal, and justified reprisal.
If there were a way to get these animals to be more aggressive to the point of not being able to be handled, say - through drugs, you best believe ide be there to give the injection. If its gonna die, its gonna die with human blood on its body. And that is justice.
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OneZero
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George W Bush wrote: Bullriding is proof the animal objects to that form of entertainment.
Without it bucking, it wouldnt be such a hick sport.
So it expresses emotion this way.
No, it's not used to being ridden, young horses do the same thing. But then again I suppose you think horseback riding is also cruel.
Quote: But I will say I find it is funny when you hear of cowboys getting killed or severely harmed during their torture/bullriding. This is reprisal, and justified reprisal.
You are a sick person.
Quote: If there were a way to get these animals to be more aggressive to the point of not being able to be handled, say - through drugs, you best believe ide be there to give the injection. If its gonna die, its gonna die with human blood on its body. And that is justice.
See above. That's not justice, that's stupid. If the animal gets out of hand what do you think the cowboys are gonna do, say "oops, we better leave him alone." No, they're gonna say "get me my .30-30." |
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connermt
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| Posted: Fri Apr 07, 2006 2:30 pm Post subject: |
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OneZero wrote: George W Bush wrote: Bullriding and other things to do with abusing cows is cruel.
Eating them is one thing, but turning them into an entertainment device is sub-human.
That's a matter of opinion. I don't think bullriding is cruel, and I see nothing wrong with using animals for entertainment.
As long is it is not hurting the animal I agree
However, I find bull fighting more than brutal & unnecessary. :evil: |
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OneZero
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connermt wrote: OneZero wrote: George W Bush wrote: Bullriding and other things to do with abusing cows is cruel.
Eating them is one thing, but turning them into an entertainment device is sub-human.
That's a matter of opinion. I don't think bullriding is cruel, and I see nothing wrong with using animals for entertainment.
As long is it is not hurting the animal I agree
However, I find bull fighting more than brutal & unnecessary. :evil:
Bullfighting perhaps, bullriding no. |
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Infinite911911
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OneZero wrote:
Quote: But I will say I find it is funny when you hear of cowboys getting killed or severely harmed during their torture/bullriding. This is reprisal, and justified reprisal.
You are a sick person.
Am I sick for laughing when a Hunter accidentally shoots his buddy (VP) or one that gets a taste of his own medicine and killed by an animal? |
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