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Jonah



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Posted: Thu Apr 06, 2006 2:10 pm    Post subject: Re: Religion...  

feederband wrote: Jonah wrote: feederband wrote: Eynon81 wrote: feederband wrote: I think I have my own religion...I just believe in myself and what myself comprehends as real... I don't think I want to give it a name though... Its just me.... Sure I could probably group my self into some of the non believing groups and have but I rather not be labled at all...

thinks about self for a while.........(shudder).........you know I have a real dark side. I hide it pretty damn well, but people who really know me, know it's there. The excitement I feel when I shed some other guy's blood, or when I manipulate a girl into falling in love with me. Power, control, lust, rage, pride, these things rule a good portion of my being, and very seductive and persuasive portion.

If I honestly believed that there was nothing beyond myself, nothing greater then my onw consenous then I would definatley let that darker side take over.......not that anyone would ever know. Infact it may even make me more popular, giving into the fact that I'd give in fullly to my manipulative tendancies.

Course, I would leave a lot of broken people in my wake, but who cares? it's not about them, it's about me :wink:


:shock:

My own consenous is very broad...Darkside take over? Why would let it?
You controll youself and your own actions...

Darkside :twisted:

You have NO control over your carnal nature, with its passions and desires; it will continue to get worse and worse if you leave it up to your own strength.


Wow .... Nope I'm sure I controll what ever I do....

Ever been to a nursing/retirement home? Old folks that never had "religion" don't get better, they get worse! Old women talking about goin' out in the street and makin' a buck with their bodies, old men grabbin' old women, nasty old farts man. Trust me, people left to their own devices don't get better, generally speaking.

You think you do, but you have no control over your carnal nature whatsoever. I'm not singling you out, just sayin'.
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eynon



Joined: 03 Jul 2004
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Location: Minneapolis......

Posted: Thu Apr 06, 2006 2:14 pm    Post subject: Re: Religion...  

feederband wrote: Jonah wrote: feederband wrote: Eynon81 wrote: feederband wrote: I think I have my own religion...I just believe in myself and what myself comprehends as real... I don't think I want to give it a name though... Its just me.... Sure I could probably group my self into some of the non believing groups and have but I rather not be labled at all...

thinks about self for a while.........(shudder).........you know I have a real dark side. I hide it pretty damn well, but people who really know me, know it's there. The excitement I feel when I shed some other guy's blood, or when I manipulate a girl into falling in love with me. Power, control, lust, rage, pride, these things rule a good portion of my being, and very seductive and persuasive portion.

If I honestly believed that there was nothing beyond myself, nothing greater then my onw consenous then I would definatley let that darker side take over.......not that anyone would ever know. Infact it may even make me more popular, giving into the fact that I'd give in fullly to my manipulative tendancies.

Course, I would leave a lot of broken people in my wake, but who cares? it's not about them, it's about me :wink:


:shock:

My own consenous is very broad...Darkside take over? Why would let it?
You controll youself and your own actions...

Darkside :twisted:

You have NO control over your carnal nature, with its passions and desires; it will continue to get worse and worse if you leave it up to your own strength.


Wow .... Nope I'm sure I controll what ever I do....

oh course, I have more control over my inner-demons then inner-angles.........ultimatley it's just a matter of switching priorities, external desires are replaced by internal desires, my internal desires tend towards power, control, lust, pride, and wrath. Remember in my first post that control was one of the desires I would give into, the desire to control my own life and the lives of those whom I wished to control.

Perception would take the place of Reality.......
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feederband



Joined: 26 Jan 2006
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Location: Florida

Posted: Thu Apr 06, 2006 2:17 pm    Post subject: Re: Religion...  

Jonah wrote: feederband wrote: Jonah wrote: feederband wrote: Eynon81 wrote: feederband wrote: I think I have my own religion...I just believe in myself and what myself comprehends as real... I don't think I want to give it a name though... Its just me.... Sure I could probably group my self into some of the non believing groups and have but I rather not be labled at all...

thinks about self for a while.........(shudder).........you know I have a real dark side. I hide it pretty damn well, but people who really know me, know it's there. The excitement I feel when I shed some other guy's blood, or when I manipulate a girl into falling in love with me. Power, control, lust, rage, pride, these things rule a good portion of my being, and very seductive and persuasive portion.

If I honestly believed that there was nothing beyond myself, nothing greater then my onw consenous then I would definatley let that darker side take over.......not that anyone would ever know. Infact it may even make me more popular, giving into the fact that I'd give in fullly to my manipulative tendancies.

Course, I would leave a lot of broken people in my wake, but who cares? it's not about them, it's about me :wink:


:shock:

My own consenous is very broad...Darkside take over? Why would let it?
You controll youself and your own actions...

Darkside :twisted:

You have NO control over your carnal nature, with its passions and desires; it will continue to get worse and worse if you leave it up to your own strength.


Wow .... Nope I'm sure I controll what ever I do....

Ever been to a nursing/retirement home? Old folks that never had "religion" don't get better, they get worse! Old women talking about goin' out in the street and makin' a buck with their bodies, old men grabbin' old women, nasty old farts man. Trust me, people left to their own devices don't get better, generally speaking.

You think you do, but you have no control over your carnal nature whatsoever. I'm not singling you out, just sayin'.


Good thing I know I wont get old...
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feederband



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Posted: Thu Apr 06, 2006 2:19 pm    Post subject: Re: Religion...  

Eynon81 wrote: feederband wrote: Jonah wrote: feederband wrote: Eynon81 wrote: feederband wrote: I think I have my own religion...I just believe in myself and what myself comprehends as real... I don't think I want to give it a name though... Its just me.... Sure I could probably group my self into some of the non believing groups and have but I rather not be labled at all...

thinks about self for a while.........(shudder).........you know I have a real dark side. I hide it pretty damn well, but people who really know me, know it's there. The excitement I feel when I shed some other guy's blood, or when I manipulate a girl into falling in love with me. Power, control, lust, rage, pride, these things rule a good portion of my being, and very seductive and persuasive portion.

If I honestly believed that there was nothing beyond myself, nothing greater then my onw consenous then I would definatley let that darker side take over.......not that anyone would ever know. Infact it may even make me more popular, giving into the fact that I'd give in fullly to my manipulative tendancies.

Course, I would leave a lot of broken people in my wake, but who cares? it's not about them, it's about me :wink:


:shock:

My own consenous is very broad...Darkside take over? Why would let it?
You controll youself and your own actions...

Darkside :twisted:

You have NO control over your carnal nature, with its passions and desires; it will continue to get worse and worse if you leave it up to your own strength.


Wow .... Nope I'm sure I controll what ever I do....

oh course, I have more control over my inner-demons then inner-angles.........ultimatley it's just a matter of switching priorities, external desires are replaced by internal desires, my internal desires tend towards power, control, lust, pride, and wrath. Remember in my first post that control was one of the desires I would give into, the desire to control my own life and the lives of those whom I wished to control.

Perception would take the place of Reality.......

I think my own morals keep my life in balance...
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eynon



Joined: 03 Jul 2004
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Location: Minneapolis......

Posted: Thu Apr 06, 2006 2:25 pm    Post subject: Re: Religion...  

feederband wrote: Eynon81 wrote: feederband wrote: Jonah wrote: feederband wrote: Eynon81 wrote: feederband wrote: I think I have my own religion...I just believe in myself and what myself comprehends as real... I don't think I want to give it a name though... Its just me.... Sure I could probably group my self into some of the non believing groups and have but I rather not be labled at all...

thinks about self for a while.........(shudder).........you know I have a real dark side. I hide it pretty damn well, but people who really know me, know it's there. The excitement I feel when I shed some other guy's blood, or when I manipulate a girl into falling in love with me. Power, control, lust, rage, pride, these things rule a good portion of my being, and very seductive and persuasive portion.

If I honestly believed that there was nothing beyond myself, nothing greater then my onw consenous then I would definatley let that darker side take over.......not that anyone would ever know. Infact it may even make me more popular, giving into the fact that I'd give in fullly to my manipulative tendancies.

Course, I would leave a lot of broken people in my wake, but who cares? it's not about them, it's about me :wink:


:shock:

My own consenous is very broad...Darkside take over? Why would let it?
You controll youself and your own actions...

Darkside :twisted:

You have NO control over your carnal nature, with its passions and desires; it will continue to get worse and worse if you leave it up to your own strength.


Wow .... Nope I'm sure I controll what ever I do....

oh course, I have more control over my inner-demons then inner-angles.........ultimatley it's just a matter of switching priorities, external desires are replaced by internal desires, my internal desires tend towards power, control, lust, pride, and wrath. Remember in my first post that control was one of the desires I would give into, the desire to control my own life and the lives of those whom I wished to control.

Perception would take the place of Reality.......

I think my own morals keep my life in balance...

life in balance? that's an interesting goal, course how is my switching of priorities going change my own internal balance? it would mearly change my perception of those around me, they would no longer be ends, mearly means......
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wormwood



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Posted: Thu Apr 06, 2006 2:28 pm    Post subject:  

Quote: I think my own morals keep my life in balance... Just out of curiosity, what moral code is your morality based on?
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feederband



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Posted: Thu Apr 06, 2006 2:31 pm    Post subject: Re: Religion...  

Eynon81 wrote: feederband wrote: Eynon81 wrote: feederband wrote: Jonah wrote: feederband wrote: Eynon81 wrote: feederband wrote: I think I have my own religion...I just believe in myself and what myself comprehends as real... I don't think I want to give it a name though... Its just me.... Sure I could probably group my self into some of the non believing groups and have but I rather not be labled at all...

thinks about self for a while.........(shudder).........you know I have a real dark side. I hide it pretty damn well, but people who really know me, know it's there. The excitement I feel when I shed some other guy's blood, or when I manipulate a girl into falling in love with me. Power, control, lust, rage, pride, these things rule a good portion of my being, and very seductive and persuasive portion.

If I honestly believed that there was nothing beyond myself, nothing greater then my onw consenous then I would definatley let that darker side take over.......not that anyone would ever know. Infact it may even make me more popular, giving into the fact that I'd give in fullly to my manipulative tendancies.

Course, I would leave a lot of broken people in my wake, but who cares? it's not about them, it's about me :wink:


:shock:

My own consenous is very broad...Darkside take over? Why would let it?
You controll youself and your own actions...

Darkside :twisted:

You have NO control over your carnal nature, with its passions and desires; it will continue to get worse and worse if you leave it up to your own strength.


Wow .... Nope I'm sure I controll what ever I do....

oh course, I have more control over my inner-demons then inner-angles.........ultimatley it's just a matter of switching priorities, external desires are replaced by internal desires, my internal desires tend towards power, control, lust, pride, and wrath. Remember in my first post that control was one of the desires I would give into, the desire to control my own life and the lives of those whom I wished to control.

Perception would take the place of Reality.......

I think my own morals keep my life in balance...

life in balance? that's an interesting goal, course how is my switching of priorities going change my own internal balance? it would mearly change my perception of those around me, they would no longer be ends, mearly means......

But why? Why switch ? Can you just change it like a lite switch? The inner demons and angels are just you...
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feederband



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Posted: Thu Apr 06, 2006 2:35 pm    Post subject:  

wormwood wrote: Quote: I think my own morals keep my life in balance... Just out of curiosity, what moral code is your morality based on?

The one that will do a right instead of a wrong...The one that will help others regardless of situation...The one that will defend myself and family to the end...Basic principles in life....
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eynon



Joined: 03 Jul 2004
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Location: Minneapolis......

Posted: Thu Apr 06, 2006 2:43 pm    Post subject: Re: Religion...  

feederband wrote: Eynon81 wrote: feederband wrote: Eynon81 wrote: feederband wrote: Jonah wrote: feederband wrote: Eynon81 wrote: feederband wrote: I think I have my own religion...I just believe in myself and what myself comprehends as real... I don't think I want to give it a name though... Its just me.... Sure I could probably group my self into some of the non believing groups and have but I rather not be labled at all...

thinks about self for a while.........(shudder).........you know I have a real dark side. I hide it pretty damn well, but people who really know me, know it's there. The excitement I feel when I shed some other guy's blood, or when I manipulate a girl into falling in love with me. Power, control, lust, rage, pride, these things rule a good portion of my being, and very seductive and persuasive portion.

If I honestly believed that there was nothing beyond myself, nothing greater then my onw consenous then I would definatley let that darker side take over.......not that anyone would ever know. Infact it may even make me more popular, giving into the fact that I'd give in fullly to my manipulative tendancies.

Course, I would leave a lot of broken people in my wake, but who cares? it's not about them, it's about me :wink:


:shock:

My own consenous is very broad...Darkside take over? Why would let it?
You controll youself and your own actions...

Darkside :twisted:

You have NO control over your carnal nature, with its passions and desires; it will continue to get worse and worse if you leave it up to your own strength.


Wow .... Nope I'm sure I controll what ever I do....

oh course, I have more control over my inner-demons then inner-angles.........ultimatley it's just a matter of switching priorities, external desires are replaced by internal desires, my internal desires tend towards power, control, lust, pride, and wrath. Remember in my first post that control was one of the desires I would give into, the desire to control my own life and the lives of those whom I wished to control.

Perception would take the place of Reality.......

I think my own morals keep my life in balance...

life in balance? that's an interesting goal, course how is my switching of priorities going change my own internal balance? it would mearly change my perception of those around me, they would no longer be ends, mearly means......

But why? Why switch ? Can you just change it like a lite switch? The inner demons and angels are just you...

why switch? because now I live my life based around the premise of a greater consciousness then my own, more-over much of my actions, thoughts, and desires are takin in hopes of achieving a greater realtionship with that consciousness.

Take that consciousness away and you take away the foundation on which my universe, rational, and priorities are based. Without that foundation my universe, rational, and priorities would change.

pleasure would supersede comfort, perception would supersede reality.....
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feederband



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Posted: Thu Apr 06, 2006 2:47 pm    Post subject: Re: Religion...  

Eynon81 wrote: But why? Why switch ? Can you just change it like a lite switch? The inner demons and angels are just you...
why switch? because now I live my life based around the premise of a greater consciousness then my own, more-over much of my actions, thoughts, and desires are takin in hopes of achieving a greater realtionship with that consciousness.

Take that consciousness away and you take away the foundation on which my universe, rational, and priorities are based. Without that foundation my universe, rational, and priorities would change.

pleasure would supersede comfort, perception would supersede reality.....

Well one things for sure we have different thoughts on reality...But thats ok...
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eynon



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Posted: Thu Apr 06, 2006 2:53 pm    Post subject: Re: Religion...  

feederband wrote: Eynon81 wrote: But why? Why switch ? Can you just change it like a lite switch? The inner demons and angels are just you...
why switch? because now I live my life based around the premise of a greater consciousness then my own, more-over much of my actions, thoughts, and desires are takin in hopes of achieving a greater realtionship with that consciousness.

Take that consciousness away and you take away the foundation on which my universe, rational, and priorities are based. Without that foundation my universe, rational, and priorities would change.

pleasure would supersede comfort, perception would supersede reality.....

Well one things for sure we have different thoughts on reality...But thats ok...


yep........reality is either the creation and will of a greater consciousness or a series of chemical reactions.....
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wormwood



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Posted: Thu Apr 06, 2006 2:54 pm    Post subject:  

Quote: The one that will do a right instead of a wrong...The one that will help others regardless of situation...The one that will defend myself and family to the end...Basic principles in life.... I am not familiar with this code... what is your rationalization for adapting this code? What I mean is, what logical purpose does it serve to fight your instincts? For example...why help strangers regardless of situation? What logical purpose does that serve? Also, why, in your mind, does that equate morality? :wink:
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eynon



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Posted: Thu Apr 06, 2006 2:59 pm    Post subject:  

hehehe......we're getting all kinds of Socratic up in here
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wormwood



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Posted: Thu Apr 06, 2006 3:04 pm    Post subject:  

Quote: hehehe......we're getting all kinds of Socratic up in here
:lol: And mad Platonic yo!
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feederband



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Posted: Thu Apr 06, 2006 3:05 pm    Post subject:  

wormwood wrote: Quote: The one that will do a right instead of a wrong...The one that will help others regardless of situation...The one that will defend myself and family to the end...Basic principles in life.... I am not familiar with this code... what is your rationalization for adapting this code? What I mean is, what logical purpose does it serve to fight your instincts? For example...why help strangers regardless of situation? What logical purpose does that serve? Also, why, in your mind, does that equate morality? :wink:

:lol: Its the feederband code... I think you know what I was getting at...If not, doing what is right is the basics of it...Sometimes your instincts would not be the right thing to do...
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feederband



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Posted: Thu Apr 06, 2006 3:07 pm    Post subject:  

wormwood wrote: Quote: hehehe......we're getting all kinds of Socratic up in here
:lol: And mad Platonic yo!

Man you guys are wearing out my google button... :lol:
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eynon



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Posted: Thu Apr 06, 2006 3:10 pm    Post subject:  

feederband wrote: wormwood wrote: Quote: hehehe......we're getting all kinds of Socratic up in here
:lol: And mad Platonic yo!

Man you guys are wearing out my google button... :lol:

well feeder, one thing you gotta understand is that I'm a very lazy person, and therefore I spend lots of time sitting around and thinking about crap like this......... :wink:
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feederband



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Posted: Thu Apr 06, 2006 3:13 pm    Post subject:  

Eynon81 wrote: feederband wrote: wormwood wrote: Quote: hehehe......we're getting all kinds of Socratic up in here
:lol: And mad Platonic yo!

Man you guys are wearing out my google button... :lol:

well feeder, one thing you gotta understand is that I'm a very lazy person, and therefore I spend lots of time sitting around and thinking about crap like this......... :wink:

Its ok ..Right now I ain't got anything better to do myself.. :wink:
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eynon



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Posted: Thu Apr 06, 2006 3:15 pm    Post subject:  

feederband wrote: Eynon81 wrote: feederband wrote: wormwood wrote: Quote: hehehe......we're getting all kinds of Socratic up in here
:lol: And mad Platonic yo!

Man you guys are wearing out my google button... :lol:

well feeder, one thing you gotta understand is that I'm a very lazy person, and therefore I spend lots of time sitting around and thinking about crap like this......... :wink:

Its ok ..Right now I ain't got anything better to do myself.. :wink:

oh I do, but I'm just gonna pass the buck :wink:
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Jonah



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Posted: Thu Apr 06, 2006 3:23 pm    Post subject:  

Eynon81 wrote: feederband wrote: wormwood wrote: Quote: hehehe......we're getting all kinds of Socratic up in here
:lol: And mad Platonic yo!

Man you guys are wearing out my google button... :lol:

well feeder, one thing you gotta understand is that I'm a very lazy person, and therefore I spend lots of time sitting around and thinking about crap like this......... :wink:

:lol:
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