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[Leon Czolgosz]

Leon Czolgosz wrote: you're avoiding the question in typical fashion GWB.

whether you agree with the speed laws or not, if a person is speeding down the road, and hits a pedestrian and kills that person, the driver can be tried and go to prison for vehicular manslaughter...

you say animals are equal to humans, then do you think that if a person was speeding down the road (wreckless driving), and hits and kills an animal, do you think that driver should be tried and face prison, just like he could if he had hit a person.

GWB - I notice you are avoiding this thread, is there a reason? Just answer the question.

me thinks that you are all about 'animal equality' unless you find yourself in this situation, then, that hypocracy that you condemned me for, shows up in your values, too.


BTW - I don't smoke and don't throw cigs in the road. But I do think cops have better things to do.

[Piotr]

A few years ago my younger sister threw a party at the house. People came, there was cake, etc.

The next day, in the morning, we noticed a trail of fairly large ants leading to my sister's hamster's cage. When we stepped closer and looked at the hamster...

Someone had inadvertently thrown a piece of cake into the hamster's cage. The poor thing , having been covered in sugary cake substance, was being slowly eaten away by the ants. We took it out of the cage: its feet were red and almost all stripped away, it had numerous bites, its eyes we closed (or were rendered unsuable, I'd think), and it twitched erratically. Ants would occasionally come out of the hamster's ears.

It was obviously a terrible sight. My mom unhesitatingly asked the driver to drown the hamster and put an end to its misery. So he filled a small tub with water and put the hamster in...again, a few ants came out.

I didn't know what to do; I was taken aback by the whole incident. I didn't know whether putting an end to its misery was the best way to go, or if we had a right to do that; I could see how it could be a humane action; but I sometimes felt like getting it out of the water before it drowned (and I think I made some attempts, a couple of times), while at the same time trying to think if there was some way to treat it, or if there was a chance it would recover. However, in the end, I could only watch its struggle until it stopped moving in the water. My sister was devastated, obviously.

I know didn't pull the trigger, but I don't know if failure to act could be counted as contributing. At the same time, it's an unusual type of incident...

[thintheherd]

I've had to kill two animals that were not actually mine. Once lived in a neighborhood with a loser that thought that new animals, bought for her two terrors she called childeren, were as self sufficient as their adult counterparts and should be allowed to run free.

Each were hit by cars in the first six months of their lives and their last memories.

Both the hardest and most humane shots I've ever taken.