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[mulberrymagnet]

De Bhaldraithe wrote: mulberrymagnet wrote: De Bhaldraithe wrote: mulberrymagnet wrote: De Bhaldraithe,

Firstly, extremists at either end of the spectrum are as bad as each other.

Second, you realy are living in lala land.

It's called Ireland. The reason that some ignorant people refer to it as lala land is summed up in three letters - DUP.

Look, the people in the British part voted to remain British, accept it and move on. Peter Hain is doing a grand job, and we will always have a certain affinity with you lot, even if you did help refuel Hitler's subs during the war.. we can put that all behind us and move on.

But stick to boy bands.

I have accepted it and moved on - read my posts and you will see that I have continuously argued in favour of the GFA.

I commend Peter Hain for the job he's doing. He seems to be really keen on getting proper devolved government, as have most of the Secrataries of State for NI have been since Mowlam (herself included). Though I nor any other Irish man have elected him, nor his team of civil servant officials. So even if he wasn't doing a grand job, I can do sweet FA about - the same luxury afforded to everyone in the six counties. We need our own representative politicians doing the work that they are paid for.

WHO ELECTED THOSE TERRORISTS WHO 'WORKED' FOR 'YOU'..? Who elected them? Why do you not condemn THEM??

[De Bhaldraithe]

thundertaker wrote:
You have stated that you pine for the days of punishment beatings, and you accuse British forces of 'terrorism' but can't bring yourself to say the same about the IRA.
Do you or do you not believe the IRA are terrorists?

We have no police service here - every community needs to be policed. Scumbag joy-riders and drug dealers run rampage all over the place in Republican areas and the PSNI do feck all about it. Ten years ago, we never had that problem. If the PSNI policed our streets, I wouldn't be pining for a return to punishment beatings.

Have I used the word terrorist? Wouldn't think so.

[De Bhaldraithe]

mulberrymagnet wrote:

Sinn Féin
IRA
YOU'RE 'AVIN US ON!!!! :lol:
The Governments
The ordinary people of the six counties



I assume what you mean by that is that the IRA and Sinn Féin do have something to gain from his death. Would you care to explain your totally ignorant opinion?

After countless acts of decomissioning, summed up in total decomissioning last year, witnessed by members of the clergy and members of the joke that is the IMC, on top of countless other concessions made at the hands of unionist demands, you could seriously justify saying that the IRA and Sinn Féin have benefited from this.

YOU'RE 'AVIN US ON!!!!

[De Bhaldraithe]

mulberrymagnet wrote:
WHO ELECTED THOSE TERRORISTS WHO 'WORKED' FOR 'YOU'..? Who elected them? Why do you not condemn THEM??

I don't know exactly who you're talking about here.

I, and the people of the six counties have provided our politicians with a mandate to represent us - the greatest mandate lying with Sinn Féin and the DUP. No "terrorists" have been given a mandate. I don't know what you mean. Perhaps you're referring to the DUP and their support of Ulster Resistance. Or maybe you're talking about when the right reverend piously exclaimed that he would defend "Ulster" "by any means necessary," surrounded by tens of thousands of loyalists thugs waving gun permits in the air. Are these the terrorists "I" have elected? Are these the people you refer to? Well these people haven't worked for me - that is the problem.

[Erin]

De Bhaldraithe wrote: mulberrymagnet wrote: De Bhaldraithe,

Firstly, extremists at either end of the spectrum are as bad as each other.

Second, you realy are living in lala land.

It's called Ireland. The reason that some ignorant people refer to it as lala land is summed up in three letters - DUP.


Hey you guys,

Did you see these in the La La Land Gazette? Check it out! :shock:














hee hee hee, :twisted:

[Erin]

red dragon quote: Quote: You say my government (and yours for that matter) fought a dirty war.............your damn right, that's the only way to deal with terrorists, we knew who every single one of them was (and still is) we could have taken them all out over night in a blinlk of an eye, proving how succesful the infiltration and betrayal had been within the organisation.

As for Iraq, I am completely opposed to that war. But ther British and IRISH troops who join the BRITISH army are doing a sterling job in Basra, and they are making a lot of difference to those people, than someone like you who I feel enjoys peddling hate and conflict.

So it has now come down to both of you attacking me personally, you have not countered my points, you have both excused, twisted, deied and sworn at me and you have the cheek to say that I cannot debate and is childish................I need not make anymore comments it is written for all to see the real face of extrmists, who are paranoid and in denial.

:-D :-D :-D :-D

British Troops doing a "Sterling" job on the "Gold Plated" Door of Saddam Hussein! :dance:



:woo:

[De Bhaldraithe]

:lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:

Is maith thú a fheiceáil arís a Erin! :-D

[Erin]

De Bhaldraithe wrote: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:

Is maith thú a fheiceáil arís a Erin! :-D



dia dhuit, DB... :hy:

Go raibh míle maith agat! Is maith an airí air é, chuaigh sé go maith dom!

Níl cur suas agam leis (Red Dragon); is maith an airí air é, tá sé ró-mhaith aige; :just:

He (Red Dragon) can Póg mo thóin! :moon:

Beannachtaí na Cásca (Happy Easter)

Erin

[Saracen]

One day... just one day... perhaps I will understand Irish Gaelic and where it came from. :lol:

[Erin]

Saracen wrote: One day... just one day... perhaps I will understand Irish Gaelic and where it came from. :lol:

Hello Saracen,

Sorry that I answered DB in Irish, but loosely translated he said, "good show/good job, Erin" for my satirical posts on the DUP in response to Red Dragons hostility. It was meant to lighten things up with a wee bit of levity.

I answered him back telling DB thanks a lot, and that Red Dragon "got what he deserved and it did me good to post them". I ended it by saying Red Dragon could "kiss my *ss."

Here is a quick and easy history of Gaelige (Irish Language):

Quote: Gaelic (Irish) is a Celtic language and, as such, is a member of the Indo-European family of languages. Within the Celtic group, it belongs to the Goidelic branch of insular Celtic. Irish has evolved from a form of Celtic which was introduced into Ireland at some period during the great Celtic migrations of antiquity between the end of the second millennium and the fourth century BC. Old Irish, Ireland’s vernacular when the historical period begins in the sixth century of our era, is the earliest variant of the Celtic languages, and indeed the earliest of European vernaculars north of the Alps, in which extensive writings are extant.

The Norse settlements (AD 800 onwards) and the Anglo-Norman colonization (AD 1169 onwards) introduced periods of new language diversity into Ireland, but Irish remained dominant and other speech communities were gradually assimilated. In the early sixteenth century, almost all of the population was Irish-speaking. The main towns, however, prescribed English for the formal conduct of administrative and legal business.

The events of the later sixteenth century and of the seventeenth century for the first time undermined the status of Irish as a major language. The Tudor and Stuart conquests and plantations (1534-1610), the Cromwellian settlement (1654), and the Williamite war (1689-91) followed by the enactment of the Penal Laws (1695), had the cumulative effect of eliminating the Irish-speaking ruling classes and of destroying their cultural institutions. They were replaced by a new ruling class, or Ascendancy, whose language was English, and thereafter English was the sole language of government and public institutions. Irish continued as the language of the greater part of the rural population and, for a time, of the servant classes in towns.

From the middle of the eighteenth century, as the Penal Laws were relaxed and a greater social and economic mobility became possible for the native Irish, the more prosperous of the Irish- speaking community began to conform to the prevailing middle-class ethos by adopting English. Irish thus began to be associated with poverty and economic deprivation. This tendency increased after the Act of Union in 1800.

Yet because of the rapid growth of the rural population, the actual number of Irish speakers increased substantially during the first decades of the nineteenth century. In 1835 their number was estimated at four million. This number consisted almost entirely of an impoverished rural population which was decimated by the Great Famine and by resultant mass emigration. By 1891, the number of Irish speakers had been reduced to 680,000 and, according to that year’s census of population, Irish speakers under the age of ten represented no more than 3.5% of their age-group.

When the position began to stabilize early in the twentieth century, Irish remained as a community language only in small discontinuous regions, mainly around the western seaboard, collectively called the Gaeltacht.

http://www.irishgaelictranslator.com/lessons/article-16-2.html

There is also a dictionary at this web address that can help you translate. Check it out!


Chiffdh mé (roimh i bhfad) thú!;
see you (soon)!

Erin :hi:

[Saracen]

Erin wrote: Sorry that I answered DB in Irish, but loosely translated he said, "good show/good job, Erin" for my satirical posts on the DUP in response to Red Dragons hostility. It was meant to lighten things up with a wee bit of levity.

That's alright, Erin. I've always found the Irish people to be a unique segment of the British Isles. I can see a lot of similarities between Englanders and Scots, but the Irish are just different IMHO. Your people have been suffering under occupation for quite a while by British imperialists. It's nothing unfamiliar, really: much of Arab history had to do with a foreign power controlling our resources and installing puppet governments and whatnot. And then there's of course Israel. Just like your people were freed from this senseless tyranny, I hope the same for mine.

Thanks for the link. Pretty educational.

Cheers. :hi:

[Erin]

Erin wrote: red dragon quote: Quote:
As for Iraq, I am completely opposed to that war. But ther British and IRISH troops who join the BRITISH army are doing a sterling job in Basra, and they are making a lot of difference to those people, than someone like you who I feel enjoys peddling hate and conflict.

So it has now come down to both of you attacking me personally, you have not countered my points, you have both excused, twisted, deied and sworn at me and you have the cheek to say that I cannot debate and is childish................I need not make anymore comments it is written for all to see the real face of extrmists, who are paranoid and in denial.

:-D :-D :-D :-D



Red Dragon, mo chara...

Oh and I suppose here is another reason you support these b*stards! They are really doing a "Stellar" job as evidenced by this video, aren't they?

British Brutality
Exposed.. squad of British soldiers beat teenage Iraqis and shame their country.

http://www.metacafe.com/watch/73359/british_brutality/

Red Dragon quote: Quote: I need not make anymore comments it is written for all to see the real face of extrmists, who are paranoid and in denial.

You should be so proud! :clap: But then again, the British have had 100+ years practice on the Irish. Were you aware that there are 14,000 troops serving in the six counties of NI compared to 11,000 troops sent to Iraq? What does that tell you, Einstein??? You're quite brilliant you are! :lm:

Erin



Oh, by the way....here is a little message from the Easter Bunny!



:bana: :bana: :bana:

[Erin]

Saracen wrote: Erin wrote: Sorry that I answered DB in Irish, but loosely translated he said, "good show/good job, Erin" for my satirical posts on the DUP in response to Red Dragons hostility. It was meant to lighten things up with a wee bit of levity.

That's alright, Erin. I've always found the Irish people to be a unique segment of the British Isles. I can see a lot of similarities between Englanders and Scots, but the Irish are just different IMHO. Your people have been suffering under occupation for quite a while by British imperialists. It's nothing unfamiliar, really: much of Arab history had to do with a foreign power controlling our resources and installing puppet governments and whatnot. And then there's of course Israel. Just like your people were freed from this senseless tyranny, I hope the same for mine.

Thanks for the link. Pretty educational.

Cheers. :hi:

Thank you for the kind words Saracen,

I am support of all oppressed people under any such tyranny. Everyone deserves human rights! I wish you and your people much luck and prosperity.

Beannachtaí na Cásca (Happy Easter)

Erin

Honour Ireland's Fallen Patriots
Wear an Easter Lily

[thundertaker]

Do you seriously, honestly believe the NI is still part of the UK for imperialist reasons? LOL, the Blair government has been trying to hand over Gibralter to Spain for years, despite the fact over 90% of the population wish to remain British. Britain is no longer an imperialist country.
The British government would love to be able to ditch northern ireland, as would most ordinary brits. We find the whole province an embaressment and a drain on the economy. Unfortunately, we can't do this whilst the majority still wish to remain British. In the meantime, the security forces have to deal with twats from boths sides trying to kill people from the other side, each other, and them. I don't know what it is you expect really.........

[Pebble]

Quote:
You should be so proud! Clap But then again, the British have had 100+ years practice on the Irish. Were you aware that there are 14,000 troops serving in the six counties of NI compared to 11,000 troops sent to Iraq? What does that tell you,

Probably that the British Army cares more about internal security than external affairs and that we are, as is our right, deploying our armed forces on our own lands. I wonder how many troops we have stationed in England? Or Scotland?

I'm not even sure what you're arguing anymore...

[thundertaker]

Quote: British Brutality
Exposed.. squad of British soldiers beat teenage Iraqis and shame their country.

The rioting crowd those lads were pulled from had been throwing live grenades and petrol bombs at the soldiers. In those circumstances, they were lucky to get away with a beating......

[De Bhaldraithe]

thundertaker wrote:
Unfortunately, we can't do this whilst the majority still wish to remain British......

You honestly believe that that is the reason why this place is still part of Britain. British government doesn't give a toss about our opinions. The reason the Brits are still here is because you have a moral duty to clean up the mess you created. If I spill my cornflakes in the morning, I don't leave it for my wife to clean it up, or better yet, just leave it altogether.

It's the same reason why you shall be in Iraq for many a year to come.

[Erin]

thundertaker wrote: Do you seriously, honestly believe the NI is still part of the UK for imperialist reasons? LOL, the Blair government has been trying to hand over Gibralter to Spain for years, despite the fact over 90% of the population wish to remain British. Britain is no longer an imperialist country.
The British government would love to be able to ditch northern ireland, as would most ordinary brits. We find the whole province an embaressment and a drain on the economy. Unfortunately, we can't do this whilst the majority still wish to remain British. In the meantime, the security forces have to deal with twats from boths sides trying to kill people from the other side, each other, and them. I don't know what it is you expect really.........

Because this has gone so far off topic, I have started a new thread so we can further discuss this. Why is Britain Still in NI?

[red dragon]

Erin wrote: Erin wrote: red dragon quote: Quote:
As for Iraq, I am completely opposed to that war. But ther British and IRISH troops who join the BRITISH army are doing a sterling job in Basra, and they are making a lot of difference to those people, than someone like you who I feel enjoys peddling hate and conflict.

So it has now come down to both of you attacking me personally, you have not countered my points, you have both excused, twisted, deied and sworn at me and you have the cheek to say that I cannot debate and is childish................I need not make anymore comments it is written for all to see the real face of extrmists, who are paranoid and in denial.

:-D :-D :-D :-D



Red Dragon, mo chara...

Oh and I suppose here is another reason you support these b*stards! They are really doing a "Stellar" job as evidenced by this video, aren't they?

British Brutality
Exposed.. squad of British soldiers beat teenage Iraqis and shame their country.

http://www.metacafe.com/watch/73359/british_brutality/

Red Dragon quote: Quote: I need not make anymore comments it is written for all to see the real face of extrmists, who are paranoid and in denial.

You should be so proud! :clap: But then again, the British have had 100+ years practice on the Irish. Were you aware that there are 14,000 troops serving in the six counties of NI compared to 11,000 troops sent to Iraq? What does that tell you, Einstein??? You're quite brilliant you are! :lm:

Erin



Oh, by the way....here is a little message from the Easter Bunny!



:bana: :bana: :bana:

Well that';s just brilliant, a load of abuse from a nobody with his head stuck up his ass right back in the past. Let's see what the beloved republican Irish think about 9/11 and international terrorism.



What about Lance Corporal Ian Malone from Dublin killed by a sniper in Iraq on the 6/04/2003?? A real IRISHMAN fighting in the BRITISH army, is he a babarian??? I disagree with this war, but I'll always support our troops, much more attrocities were perpetrated by terrorists in your neck of the woods, we are fighting shoulder to shoulder with our American counterparts. Enabling you to have freedom of speech and relative safety. So carry on with this and see where it gets you.

[red dragon]

De Bhaldraithe wrote: thundertaker wrote:
Unfortunately, we can't do this whilst the majority still wish to remain British......

You honestly believe that that is the reason why this place is still part of Britain. British government doesn't give a toss about our opinions. The reason the Brits are still here is because you have a moral duty to clean up the mess you created. If I spill my cornflakes in the morning, I don't leave it for my wife to clean it up, or better yet, just leave it altogether.

It's the same reason why you shall be in Iraq for many a year to come.

You lot created your own damn mess with your bigoted environment, that being Catholics and Protestants. It's a joke that you can blame it on the UK,l you lot can't even behave at funerals without shooting each other and throwing grenades. You lot can't reasonably take any blame for the mess that you lot creating in supporting each others paramilitary organizations. Let's be honest here, what sort of a country allows self promoted thugs to be armed and able to dish out summary justice within their own community talked about f****d up.

Secondly, nobody gives a toss about NI, you seem to have a lot of trouble understanding that. I couldn't care less, which country it wants to belong to, I want our billions in taxes here on the mainland paying for much needy services and jobs, not in keeping a group of morons apart. So keep on blabbing about how much independence that you want and the rest of it, because nobody cares, bugger off, i couldn't care less.