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George W Bush · Posted: Tue Apr 04, 2006 6:21 pm Post subject: asexuality

is it possible to be asexual?

i think so.

i like the symbol, btw:

George W Bush · Posted: Tue Apr 04, 2006 6:22 pm Post subject:

i'll add that, in certain cases, it is a CHOICE.

Demonic Spoon · Joined: 20 Sep 2004 Posts: 6757 Location: Ohio

No it's not...you can choose not to have sex, but the urges will still be there. Unless, however, you mean the choice to cut off your shlong...

George W Bush · Posted: Tue Apr 04, 2006 8:46 pm Post subject:

Demonic Spoon wrote: No it's not...you can choose not to have sex, but the urges will still be there. Unless, however, you mean the choice to cut off your shlong...

ok, but you can choose not to let the urges manifest themselves into wanting it from someone else.

Melchior · Joined: 02 Oct 2004 Posts: 9224 Location: Palm Beach

Buddhism anyone? For someone trying to reduce their desires, cravings and attachments, being asexual must be very convenient.

Demonic Spoon · Joined: 20 Sep 2004 Posts: 6757 Location: Ohio

Impossible. You cannot stop hormones from acting by force of will.

ToonArmyIsComing · Joined: 15 Feb 2005 Posts: 5888 Location: Ontario

Demonic Spoon wrote: Impossible. You cannot stop hormones from acting by force of will.

Having an urge is one thing, acting on it is another thing all together.

Besides, some people naturally have a low sex drive. So these people get sexual urges less often than other people.

connermt · Joined: 27 Feb 2006 Posts: 1526 Location: CMH OHIO

Demonic Spoon wrote: No it's not...you can choose not to have sex, but the urges will still be there. Unless, however, you mean the choice to cut off your shlong...

That's not 100% - there are many people that have no sexual desire at all, even with 'all their parts'

connermt · Joined: 27 Feb 2006 Posts: 1526 Location: CMH OHIO

George W Bush wrote: is it possible to be asexual?

i think so.

i like the symbol, btw:

If you are referring to asexual as having no sexual desire, then yes, many people are asexual. As with all sexuality, there are degress of asexuality, as there are degrees of homo- & heterosexuality. Some people become asexual over time to different degrees. Sometimes it is a choice NOT to act on desires, sometimes it is having so little of a desire for sex that it is almost indistinguishable, other times there is no desire.
I am not sure if it is a mental issue, or a chemical/hormonal issue, or a combination of.

Gryff1nd0r · Joined: 12 Nov 2004 Posts: 2277 Location: Cambridge, MA

Does anyone have a link about this?

George W Bush · Posted: Thu Apr 06, 2006 11:28 am Post subject:

Gryff1nd0r wrote: Does anyone have a link about this?

www.asexuality.org/home/

Tracker · Posted: Fri Apr 07, 2006 12:03 am Post subject:

George W Bush wrote: Demonic Spoon wrote: No it's not...you can choose not to have sex, but the urges will still be there. Unless, however, you mean the choice to cut off your shlong...

ok, but you can choose not to let the urges manifest themselves into wanting it from someone else.

Not always. And that is why 79% (or more) of all marriages/civil-unions have 'affairs.'

In a monogomous relationship, fantasizing about another while NOT having sex with your partner (loss of interest) is, in fact, a 'sexual affair.'

What to do? What to do?

Next: my left-hand seems to work quite well for 'urges,' but does nothing for the urge to share.

What to do? What to do?

Is it 'asexuality' or is it 'celibacy?' Depends on point-of-view.

Been there, done that. And if single, who do you 'fantasize' about when masturbating? One you've HAD or the one you did NOT?

We're all 'asexual' to 99.99999% of all life on the planet. It's a tiny few we find ourselves attracted to. For whatever reason. Even those whom are more 'sexually-active' than most. I'm LESS sexually-active than most, but if that 'fantasy that never happened' came to life, would that change?

Hmmmm ... Viagra sales would plummet. (I've never bought them, but for those whom do -- well, you know what I'm saying).

And that is why so many relationships of a monogomous nature have ZERO sex -- because the obligation is expected, while fantasies flourish. Some will say that is why we have the capacity to 'fantasize,' but they are ignoring the PRAYERFUL 'sexual affair' which has more 'substance' than their babblized mental-projections towards PeaceOnEarth.

Think about it.

Tracker · Posted: Fri Apr 07, 2006 12:43 am Post subject: Re: asexuality

connermt wrote: George W Bush wrote: is it possible to be asexual?

i think so.

i like the symbol, btw:

If you are referring to asexual as having no sexual desire, then yes, many people are asexual. As with all sexuality, there are degress of asexuality, as there are degrees of homo- & heterosexuality. Some people become asexual over time to different degrees. Sometimes it is a choice NOT to act on desires, sometimes it is having so little of a desire for sex that it is almost indistinguishable, other times there is no desire.
I am not sure if it is a mental issue, or a chemical/hormonal issue, or a combination of.

I'm not attracted to anything unless I 'get to know them' ... a lot. It's the 'whole package,' ... not looks.

That said, weird 'arrousals' occur at times ... sometimes at most inconvenient times. That does not imply 'sexual attraction'. It's mental. A stray 'thought' or in some situations, a strange physical contact that is not sexual at all, but for whatever reason an 'arrousal' response is triggered -- and immediately dismissed, because it's not sexual.

That's why riding a horse or new motorcycle often results in an 'arrousal' response but there is nothing sexual about it. It goes away quickly for that reason.

Sex for recreation is different. Many people do this. Most do it before committing to a monogomous relationship, and then LIE about it.

And that is why National Security is impacted: because those forced to hide their crotch-usage or love are putting the Union at risk by being susceptible to blackmail. Open and honest sexuality is the only solution to that -- and the reminder to CrotchWorshipers that their perversion to shame/blame and dominate other peoples' crotches and put conditions on their love is none of their business and gross.

I wish I knew someone that I was sexually attracted to. ;) Better, it was mutual. And monogomous, obviously. I'm not a 'recreation-sex' kinda person, but that does not mean it's impossible -- I choose not to be that way, that's all, and it's easier for me because I find so few 'sexually appealling.'

I call that, "ASEXUAL." How about you?

connermt · Joined: 27 Feb 2006 Posts: 1526 Location: CMH OHIO

Tracker wrote: connermt wrote: George W Bush wrote: is it possible to be asexual?

i think so.

i like the symbol, btw:

If you are referring to asexual as having no sexual desire, then yes, many people are asexual. As with all sexuality, there are degress of asexuality, as there are degrees of homo- & heterosexuality. Some people become asexual over time to different degrees. Sometimes it is a choice NOT to act on desires, sometimes it is having so little of a desire for sex that it is almost indistinguishable, other times there is no desire.
I am not sure if it is a mental issue, or a chemical/hormonal issue, or a combination of.

I'm not attracted to anything unless I 'get to know them' ... a lot. It's the 'whole package,' ... not looks.

That said, weird 'arrousals' occur at times ... sometimes at most inconvenient times. That does not imply 'sexual attraction'. It's mental. A stray 'thought' or in some situations, a strange physical contact that is not sexual at all, but for whatever reason an 'arrousal' response is triggered -- and immediately dismissed, because it's not sexual.

That's why riding a horse or new motorcycle often results in an 'arrousal' response but there is nothing sexual about it. It goes away quickly for that reason.

Sex for recreation is different. Many people do this. Most do it before committing to a monogomous relationship, and then LIE about it.

And that is why National Security is impacted: because those forced to hide their crotch-usage or love are putting the Union at risk by being susceptible to blackmail. Open and honest sexuality is the only solution to that -- and the reminder to CrotchWorshipers that their perversion to shame/blame and dominate other peoples' crotches and put conditions on their love is none of their business and gross.

I wish I knew someone that I was sexually attracted to. ;) Better, it was mutual. And monogomous, obviously. I'm not a 'recreation-sex' kinda person, but that does not mean it's impossible -- I choose not to be that way, that's all, and it's easier for me because I find so few 'sexually appealling.'

I call that, "ASEXUAL." How about you?

As a general rule I agree with the 'whole package' thing myself. But it doesn't work that way for everyone.
Quote: That said, weird 'arrousals' occur at times ... sometimes at most inconvenient times. That does not imply 'sexual attraction'. It's mental. A stray 'thought' or in some situations, a strange physical contact that is not sexual at all, but for whatever reason an 'arrousal' response is triggered -- and immediately dismissed, because it's not sexual. I see what you are saying, but I don't agree. People, being sexual in nature, see more things as sexual than I thinkwe consciously realize. Being attracted to someone or some feature of someone is, in it most primal reasoning, sexual. That doesn't, of course, mean that you MUST have sex with this person. Physical attraction is fundamentally a sexual issue. You attraction to someone can, of course, go well beyond that first, basic desire. That is why people can still be inlove when they are 95 years old & all saggy. You use the riding a new motorcyle for example. And guys do get turned on by things that don't appear sexual (new motorcycle, fast new car, being onstage in your band, etc). When I am going around a track @ 140MPH in a 510HP Dodge Viper, that's hot to me.
Personally, sex isn't all that important to me. If I had to rate myself on a 1-10 scale, 10 being 'sex is the most important thing', I would give me a 3.

For some reasons, some people either don't have these desires at all, or have something that keeps them from feeling these desires, consciously or not.
That, to me, is an asexual person.

DarthDuncan · Joined: 15 Dec 2004 Posts: 103 Location: illinois

Asexual reproduction is the formation of new individuals from the cell(s) of a single parent.

There's the definition right there. I hope you realize that it is impossible for a human to be asexual. That would mean that they reproduced by themselves, without anything for help. Like budding, for example. Given the fact that we can't do that, I'd say being asexual is technically impossible.

spearsy23 · Joined: 24 Oct 2005 Posts: 5400 Location: Fulton, Ks

DarthDuncan wrote: Asexual reproduction is the formation of new individuals from the cell(s) of a single parent.

There's the definition right there. I hope you realize that it is impossible for a human to be asexual. That would mean that they reproduced by themselves, without anything for help. Like budding, for example. Given the fact that we can't do that, I'd say being asexual is technically impossible.
that would be the definition of asexual reproduction not asexual.

Tracker · Posted: Sat Apr 08, 2006 2:15 am Post subject:

It's still an interesting subject, and I'm glad the 'asexual-reproduction' bit was added and clarified that we are not talking about that. We are talking about a form of 'celibacy.'

Our language has so many contradictory terms built-in, it's very difficult to decipher -- especially between languages -- we are all in FULL_BABBLIZATION mode by no fault of our own.

And nobody ever asks for clarifications, which are simple. I've written contradictions ... many of them ... and they are never asked about ... merely used to hate me, by hateful people.

(side note: I just looked up and saw that quote from 'underground' :"that's right stroke the ego, stroke the ego HARDER" ... and laughed. :lol: )

The motorcycle or horseback riding example I used, user named 'connermt,' is stimulation of the pari-anal region, according to some. Personally, I disagree, because the non-sexual 'arrousal' mechanism is stimulated without stimulus of the pari-anal region more often than not. In horse-back riding and motorcycle riding, it MIGHT BE ... but those are just two obvious examples I used. There are many.

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We SAY we 'fall in love' with bodies WHEN they look like that. Usually, that's someone in their late teens or early twenties. We idolize them on TV and movies and magazines and videos. Is it 'love' or soimething else?

Most people, within a decade turn out like this:

The 'sexual arousal' is no longer present from such bodies. That is why they are not idolized on TV and in movies, magazines and videos.

I'm 43. The top pic is me. I look the same. Most do not. Nobody loves me, either. :lol:

connermt · Joined: 27 Feb 2006 Posts: 1526 Location: CMH OHIO

DarthDuncan wrote: Asexual reproduction is the formation of new individuals from the cell(s) of a single parent.

There's the definition right there. I hope you realize that it is impossible for a human to be asexual. That would mean that they reproduced by themselves, without anything for help. Like budding, for example. Given the fact that we can't do that, I'd say being asexual is technically impossible.

ASEXUAL has more than one definition. I imagine the topic is being asexual meanign w/o a desire to have sex, not reproducing from one cell.
I could be wrong.......

connermt · Joined: 27 Feb 2006 Posts: 1526 Location: CMH OHIO

Tracker wrote: It's still an interesting subject, and I'm glad the 'asexual-reproduction' bit was added and clarified that we are not talking about that. We are talking about a form of 'celibacy.'

Our language has so many contradictory terms built-in, it's very difficult to decipher -- especially between languages -- we are all in FULL_BABBLIZATION mode by no fault of our own.

And nobody ever asks for clarifications, which are simple. I've written contradictions ... many of them ... and they are never asked about ... merely used to hate me, by hateful people.

(side note: I just looked up and saw that quote from 'underground' :"that's right stroke the ego, stroke the ego HARDER" ... and laughed. :lol: )

The motorcycle or horseback riding example I used, user named 'connermt,' is stimulation of the pari-anal region, according to some. Personally, I disagree, because the non-sexual 'arrousal' mechanism is stimulated without stimulus of the pari-anal region more often than not. In horse-back riding and motorcycle riding, it MIGHT BE ... but those are just two obvious examples I used. There are many.

Click to Enlarge

We SAY we 'fall in love' with bodies WHEN they look like that. Usually, that's someone in their late teens or early twenties. We idolize them on TV and movies and magazines and videos. Is it 'love' or soimething else?

Most people, within a decade turn out like this:

The 'sexual arousal' is no longer present from such bodies. That is why they are not idolized on TV and in movies, magazines and videos.

I'm 43. The top pic is me. I look the same. Most do not. Nobody loves me, either. :lol:

TO say 'sexual arousal' is no longer present from such bodies.' isn't entirely true. I know people who prefer the 'plump' picture more than the 'fit' picture. I don't get it, but I guess that's why people are different.

George W Bush · Posted: Sat Apr 08, 2006 11:38 pm Post subject:

i'm not an expert on 'asexuality' - but, in terms of common unions with people - i'm not on the fence, gay, or straight. relative in context, i am asexual.
it is a preference. its a choice. i choose to be this way.

someone may say, "well, you are hurting yourself".

saying this is assuming arousal is to me what arousal is to them.

one consideration that resonated with me, from the AVEN site was that such arousal is often acknowledged through choice of company - or freindship. Theres no sex there. It may be just as satisfying have convo with a beautiful, well endowed woman as it is to have sex with her.

This may seem simple, and it is. But, its not a complex decision making posture. Its simple in that I dont need to undress and do the mating dance ritual to get off. I dont have to cum to feel good, although that is a bonus.