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OneZero
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whatsthepoint
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| What does this have to do with gun control? |
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thundertaker
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| Were exaclty do guns come into the equation here? Maybe if this was america, those scumbags would have threatened to shoot him instead of stab him? |
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mattman42
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| Why was his desire to wear body armor ever questioned in the first place? Does wearing body armor somehow put others in danger? |
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KOV-14
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| Switzerland is safer because everyone owns automatic rifles. It's not that simple... |
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Wolverine
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Handgun crime 'up' despite ban
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk/1440764.stm |
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Jefferson
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whatsthepoint wrote: What does this have to do with gun control?
It is an example that total ban on guns does not solve crime. It is an example that a murder will use any when the will is there and gun control does not change the will of a murder. |
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whatsthepoint
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Jefferson wrote: whatsthepoint wrote: What does this have to do with gun control?
It is an example that total ban on guns does not solve crime. It is an example that a murder will use any when the will is there and gun control does not change the will of a murder. So you want the child walking around with a gun? OK if you say so. |
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KOV-14
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| Terrorists in 9/11 used box cutter knives to hijack the planes. Those aren't even weapons by most people's personal standards... Ban of all firearms, and weapons wouldn't solve the problem of the society having dangerous people. |
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OneZero
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| You will never ever ever be able to stop people from killing other people. |
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Jefferson
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whatsthepoint wrote: Jefferson wrote: whatsthepoint wrote: What does this have to do with gun control?
It is an example that total ban on guns does not solve crime. It is an example that a murder will use any when the will is there and gun control does not change the will of a murder. So you want the child walking around with a gun? OK if you say so.
Only an idiot like you would think I approve of such a thing or that the laws in my country allow it.
So what made you think I want such a thing?
Maybe becuase your dumb |
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alclarkey
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whatsthepoint wrote: Jefferson wrote: whatsthepoint wrote: What does this have to do with gun control?
It is an example that total ban on guns does not solve crime. It is an example that a murder will use any when the will is there and gun control does not change the will of a murder. So you want the child walking around with a gun? OK if you say so.
I don't think anyone was advocating that. If there were guns around, that body armor would've been protecting that. But since there aren't guns, the human feces will have to use knives. Lack of guns does not = lack of violence. |
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Lucky Luke
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| Posted: Sat Apr 01, 2006 3:09 am Post subject: Re: People are safer in UK because guns are banned |
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OneZero wrote: www.upi.com/NewsTrack/view.php?StoryID=20060309-015434-9184r
Especially the kids. :roll:
Another thread about a sob story of a poor kid. OneZero are you afraid of facts that you always post about emotion and children?
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Saracen
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Lucky Luke wrote: Another thread about a sob story of a poor kid. OneZero are you afraid of facts that you always post about emotion and children?
I think you missed this story. |
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Lucky Luke
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mattman42 wrote: Why was his desire to wear body armor ever questioned in the first place? Does wearing body armor somehow put others in danger?
I believe the sale to children of body armour is illegal and schools are responsible for the safety of the children, not the children themselves.
If you think pupils in the UK should wear body armour to protect themselves against the eventuality of being stabbed, you Mattman42 would have to supply a bullet proof jacket to every school American kids first.
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Lucky Luke
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Saracen wrote: Lucky Luke wrote: Another thread about a sob story of a poor kid. OneZero are you afraid of facts that you always post about emotion and children?
I think you missed this story.
I'll show you what you missed in your own little story:
The date:
Quote: Monday, 16 July, 2001
The timetable and the word "suggests":
Quote: A new study suggests the use of handguns in crime rose by 40% in the two years after the weapons were banned.
The fact that they are our NRA:
Quote: The research, commissioned by the Countryside Alliance's Campaign for Shooting
You see posting a link doesn't prove a thing, next time post the relevant quote with the link and at least read the article not just the title Saracen.
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Lucky Luke
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OneZero wrote: You will never ever ever be able to stop people from killing other people.
You can make it a lot more difficult by toughening up your gun control laws when the murder rate of a country is insane and/or the majority of murders are committed with handguns.
Some countries like the UK and Switzerland decided to toughening up their gun control laws after some massacre even when their murder rate were already very low, good for them.
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Lucky Luke
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KOV-14 wrote: Switzerland is safer because everyone owns automatic rifles. It's not that simple...
It is very simple for the Swiss, they have introduced tough gun control laws and they are in the process of adopting more tougher European ones.
If you want to own an automatic rifle like the Swiss join the army, you have that choice that Swiss haven't got.
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Robin Hood
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This entire thread is irrelevant:
A new study suggests the use of handguns in crime rose by 40% in the two years after the weapons were banned.
http://news.billinge.com/1/hi/uk/1440764.stm |
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whatsthepoint
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Jefferson wrote: whatsthepoint wrote: Jefferson wrote: whatsthepoint wrote: What does this have to do with gun control?
It is an example that total ban on guns does not solve crime. It is an example that a murder will use any when the will is there and gun control does not change the will of a murder. So you want the child walking around with a gun? OK if you say so.
Only an idiot like you would think I approve of such a thing or that the laws in my country allow it.
So what made you think I want such a thing?
Maybe becuase your dumb Reduced to personal attacks. How sad. |
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