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[connermt]

garyd wrote: The Mark of the beast is not a mark upon your flesh but rather an attitude of the heart.

Not all people agree on that

[garyd]

I am well aware of that sir but it is the simple truth. I am no literalist. Not everything in the Bible is meant to be taken literally. Much is couched in figurative terms and still other things are meant to be purely symbolic. It is one of the reasons that those not fully acquainted with the Holy Spirit can make an unbelievable mess of interpreting even the most simple scripture.

For instance the number seven appears frequently in scripture often followed by one or more zeros it is never meant as an exact number but rather it refers to all of or completeness.

[connermt]

garyd wrote: I am well aware of that sir but it is the simple truth. I am no literalist. Not everything in the Bible is meant to be taken literally. Much is couched in figurative terms and still other things are meant to be purely symbolic. It is one of the reasons that those not fully acquainted with the Holy Spirit can make an unbelievable mess of interpreting even the most simple scripture.

For instance the number seven appears frequently in scripture often followed by one or more zeros it is never meant as an exact number but rather it refers to all of or completeness.

For you to say it is the truth is not correct, unless, of course you are saying it is YOUR truth. I am not a 'literalist' either, but to say what you believe is the truth, end of story, no matter what w/o proof is irresponsible. That goes for anything, religious or not.
I am not saying that I don't disagree with you either, just pointing out the above noted fact

[garyd]

It is what the Bible says is the truth not just what I say is the truth. You don't find computers mentioned in the Bible. What the Bible talks about are motive and attitudes. Not things. Things are condemned only as they represent bad attitudes.

Idols are condemned not because making statues is wrong but because worshipping anything other than the one true and living God is.

[mattwa33193]

mgwisni wrote: I've never really understood this topic. I read one of the Left Behind books when I was a freshman in high school so I've always thought it occured near the end of the world.

People have thought we were near the end of the world for over 1,000 years now.

Some thought Social Security numbers were the mark of the beast.

[mattwa33193]

connermt wrote:
For you to say it is the truth is not correct, unless, of course you are saying it is YOUR truth. I am not a 'literalist' either, but to say what you believe is the truth, end of story, no matter what w/o proof is irresponsible. That goes for anything, religious or not.
I am not saying that I don't disagree with you either, just pointing out the above noted fact

Maybe the mark of the beast is people forgetting the nature of faith..... :)

[TheCreepyApostate]

You're all going to be chipped, resistance is futile. :twisted:

















Everyone is happy and having fun. :)

[TheCreepyApostate]

garyd wrote: It is what the Bible says is the truth not just what I say is the truth. You don't find computers mentioned in the Bible. What the Bible talks about are motive and attitudes. Not things. Things are condemned only as they represent bad attitudes.

Idols are condemned not because making statues is wrong but because worshipping anything other than the one true and living God is.

It talks about equality and financial transactions. Motives and attitudes will not be equal and you can't make purchases with them.

Quote: he causeth all, both small and great, rich and poor, free and bond, no man might buy or sell, save he that had the MARK, or the name of the beast, or the number of his name. Rev. 13:16-18


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[thefranzkafkafront]

Hah i'd love it if this way all true and i ended up in the hills fighting with the christians.

Im keeping my drugs booze and nilism though!

[xsuite]

thebreadloaf2003 wrote: xsuite wrote: Has anyone heard about implanting RFID chips into peoples' wrists, so that they can buy things with their credit account?

I heard that this could be the mark of the beast.

All input is accepted. Let us discuss.

ah you saw that special about the anti-christ on history channel too. it was good.

personaly i think it is a tactic being used by the government to watch us as closely as possible...-_-...but avast that is for the conspiracies forum

i dont see how biblical entries written way back when could have any assertion to modern day advances such as a wrist chip. Because i am pretty sure the bible was not written with any knowledge on the brink of anybodies imagine of someday having semicondctor silicon chips being implanted into a persons wrist.

the writer of revelation had no idea what it was because he was being shown a series of visions by an angel. one of those visions was a vission where someone purchases something by scanning his wrist. a wrist that contains a chip, that the writer didnt know existed. The writer probably was told by the angel about the mark of the beast, or something.

The writer didnt know how to describe something that didnt exist so he logically came up with the concept of a brand,the next closest thing.

in revelations there are references to sandals being worn by soldiers, nowadays and in the futeure WHo IN THER RIGHT MIND WOULD WEAR SANDALS TO A BATTLE!!!!! the writer is just tring to describe stuff.

[mattwa33193]

xsuite wrote: thebreadloaf2003 wrote: xsuite wrote: Has anyone heard about implanting RFID chips into peoples' wrists, so that they can buy things with their credit account?

I heard that this could be the mark of the beast.

All input is accepted. Let us discuss.

ah you saw that special about the anti-christ on history channel too. it was good.

personaly i think it is a tactic being used by the government to watch us as closely as possible...-_-...but avast that is for the conspiracies forum

i dont see how biblical entries written way back when could have any assertion to modern day advances such as a wrist chip. Because i am pretty sure the bible was not written with any knowledge on the brink of anybodies imagine of someday having semicondctor silicon chips being implanted into a persons wrist.

the writer of revelation had no idea what it was because he was being shown a series of visions by an angel. one of those visions was a vission where someone purchases something by scanning his wrist. a wrist that contains a chip, that the writer didnt know existed. The writer probably was told by the angel about the mark of the beast, or something.

The writer didnt know how to describe something that didnt exist so he logically came up with the concept of a brand,the next closest thing.

in revelations there are references to sandals being worn by soldiers, nowadays and in the futeure WHo IN THER RIGHT MIND WOULD WEAR SANDALS TO A BATTLE!!!!! the writer is just tring to describe stuff.

A chip is invisible, since it is sub-dermal. A brand is visible. A tatoo would be the closest thing.

The probelm with prophets is that they are pretty much indistinguishable from the insane. Vision is a word used to legitimatize hallucinations. Angel is a word used to legitimatize schizophrenia. You first have to accept that the author selected a true prophet and not a nut, and then interpret the words

[garyd]

If you were a Christian in first century Jerusalem You could not buy from your Jewish or do any manner of business with them... Announcing that you have converted from Islam to Christianity is a capital crime in much of the Middle East.... If you are dead I don't think you're going to conduct much in the way of business.