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Plodder
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| Posted: Fri May 05, 2006 8:56 am Post subject: |
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| DR. Willam Hogan, MD. |
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steen
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| Posted: Fri May 05, 2006 4:32 pm Post subject: |
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| Plodder wrote: DR. Willam Hogan, MD. That is not a scientific reference. Don't you know ANYTHING? |
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Plodder
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| Posted: Sat May 06, 2006 2:44 pm Post subject: |
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| look him up you ignorant lil foo |
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steen
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| Posted: Sat May 06, 2006 11:07 pm Post subject: |
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| Plodder wrote: look him up you ignorant lil foo Why should I do your work, moronic liar. Your claim, so you prove it. And no, a person is not a scientific reference. Apparently that is something you are ALSO ignorant off, just like nearly everything else you are posting about. |
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Plodder
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| Posted: Sun May 07, 2006 12:20 am Post subject: |
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| you dont want to look him up because you know Im right. its ok I understand your fear of truth. |
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LostSoul3412
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| Posted: Sun May 07, 2006 7:18 pm Post subject: |
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Plodder wrote: you dont want to look him up because you know Im right. its ok I understand your fear of truth.
If you make a claim, it's your responsibility to back it up. And that means more than name dropping. |
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Plodder
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| Posted: Mon May 08, 2006 12:23 am Post subject: |
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http://www.ppl.org/TS_MorningAfterPill_March2001.html
http://www.defendlife.org/newsletters/Feb2005/hogan.shtml
lil biography.
he is much mre qualified thany anyoine here to determine what a baby is or is not. |
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LostSoul3412
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| Posted: Mon May 08, 2006 1:45 pm Post subject: |
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Plodder wrote: http://www.ppl.org/TS_MorningAfterPill_March2001.html
http://www.defendlife.org/newsletters/Feb2005/hogan.shtml
lil biography.
he is much mre qualified thany anyoine here to determine what a baby is or is not.
So post that instead of attacking him! :gdgf:
Debate is a skill...
Like reading. |
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steen
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| Posted: Mon May 08, 2006 8:07 pm Post subject: |
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Plodder wrote: http://www.ppl.org/TS_MorningAfterPill_March2001.html
http://www.defendlife.org/newsletters/Feb2005/hogan.shtml
lil biography.
he is much mre qualified thany anyoine here to determine what a baby is or is not. Nice pro-life, political sites you got there. I should have known that you wouldn't get your info from unbiased, scientifically accurate sites.
As for your sources, the first site merely makes a claim of a quote, but with no referencing or sourcing. For all we know, they are making it up. So there is nothing even resembling a valid reference there.
A google search reveals at least 8 different physicians with that name, none of them an OB/GYN, so it seems like your source is lying.
But hey, we have a solution. You implied that he personally had said this in your presence, so you would know who he is, or where he is from, and therefore, you can direct us to which William J. Hogan it actually is, right?
Your second link is merely one long personal claim, also with no scientific reference for the claims. And certainly with NO evidence of the qualifications you claimed at the beginning of your post.
So the conclusion is that you lied when pretending to have a scientific source of evidence for you lies. A double lie, in other words. |
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Plodder
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| Posted: Mon May 08, 2006 10:17 pm Post subject: |
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He is a teacher at The Heights School, Potomac Maryland. He has been there ever since he retired from his practice. He attendded Georgetown University where he recived his degree and had his residence.
And also im sorry but I cannot find a source on the internet that would give a proper biography.
the closese thing is i belive the second source. it give some stuff about him |
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steen
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| Posted: Mon May 08, 2006 10:19 pm Post subject: |
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| Plodder wrote: He is a teacher at The Heights School, Potomac Maryland. He has been there ever since he retired from his practice. He attendded Georgetown University where he recived his degree and had his residence. OK, so far, so good. Now, where is his personal claim suddenly documented science? His claim must be backed up by some scientific fact, right? What fact is that? Could you provide the reference to the Scientific, peer-reviewed Science article that confirms his subjective claim? |
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Plodder
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| Posted: Mon May 08, 2006 10:48 pm Post subject: |
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| no article he made a movie that is in ther archives of the university. I saw it. |
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steen
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| Posted: Mon May 08, 2006 10:58 pm Post subject: |
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| Plodder wrote: no article he made a movie that is in ther archives of the university. I saw it. Ah, so it wasn't a scientific source. Thatnks for proving that you lied earlier. |
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Plodder
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| Posted: Tue May 09, 2006 7:10 am Post subject: |
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| it is a scienttific documentary on abortion. |
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steen
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| Posted: Tue May 09, 2006 7:58 pm Post subject: |
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Plodder wrote: it is a scienttific documentary on abortion. How so? What makes it scientific?
You obviously are so ignorant that you don't even know what makes something scientific. :roll:
Perhaps you should avoid terminology you don't understand, as to not expose yourself as an ignorant fool. |
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LostSoul3412
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| Posted: Wed May 10, 2006 10:15 am Post subject: |
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Plodder wrote: no article he made a movie that is in ther archives of the university. I saw it.
And I saw Bugs Bunny on TV, doesn't mean rabbits talk. :roll: |
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Plodder
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| Posted: Thu May 11, 2006 2:06 pm Post subject: |
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huh? major non sequitur there.
Quote: How so? What makes it scientific?
You obviously are so ignorant that you don't even know what makes something scientific.
Perhaps you should avoid terminology you don't understand, as to not expose yourself as an ignorant fool. What makes science? It was a sceintfic study on embryos, fetuses all in the context of abortion, howver I saw the movie 2 years ago so my memory fails to remembee the exact 2 hours of it. sorry for not being perfect. |
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LostSoul3412
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Plodder wrote: What makes science?
Good Question.
Plodder wrote: It was a sceintfic study on embryos, fetuses all in the context of abortion
Bad Answer. |
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steen
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| Posted: Thu May 11, 2006 5:54 pm Post subject: |
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Plodder wrote: huh? major non sequitur there. Quote: How so? What makes it scientific?
You obviously are so ignorant that you don't even know what makes something scientific.
Perhaps you should avoid terminology you don't understand, as to not expose yourself as an ignorant fool. What makes science? that would be the exploration of measurable phenomena through the application of the Scientific Method. Sure looks like you didn't know this.
Quote: It was a sceintfic study on embryos, fetuses all in the context of abortion, Prove it. provide the SCIENTIFIC reference for this study. No?
Quote: howver I saw the movie 2 years ago so my memory fails to remembee the exact 2 hours of it. sorry for not being perfect. Movies are not scientific evidence. At best, they are a way to try to explain scientific evidence, but as they are not peer reviewed, they are not actual scientific evidence. |
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Plodder
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| Posted: Fri May 12, 2006 2:33 pm Post subject: |
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Quote: Prove it. provide the SCIENTIFIC reference for this study. No?
Didnt I already say that it was 2 years ago and that it was a study on abortion?yes i did. |
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