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Plodder
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| Posted: Mon May 08, 2006 10:37 pm Post subject: |
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| what I belive, is that either you are all for it or aall againt it. simple and final. i leave no middle ground. this Kerry like attitude is sickening to me and I nver ever pull punches. |
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steen
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| Posted: Mon May 08, 2006 10:50 pm Post subject: |
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Plodder wrote: what I belive, is that either you are all for it or aall againt it. simple and final. Your absolutist ignorance is your own problem. It is very possible to hold a nuanced view about complicated situations rather than an absolutist,simple-minded all-or-nothing idea
Quote: i leave no middle ground. this Kerry like attitude is sickening to me Actually, the ultimate flip-flopper is the one who claimed that if anybody on his staff was involved in the exposure of Plame as a CIA agent, that person would no longer work in the White Staff. And guess what, Cheney is still VP. Hmm, a flip-flopper if ever there was one.
Quote: and I nver ever pull punches. Ah, is THAT what you call your incessant false claims? |
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Plodder
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| Posted: Mon May 08, 2006 10:53 pm Post subject: |
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Quote: Actually, the ultimate flip-flopper is the one who claimed that if anybody on his staff was involved in the exposure of Plame as a CIA agent, that person would no longer work in the White Staff. And guess what, Cheney is still VP. Hmm, a flip-flopper if ever there was one.
thats unconfirmed specultion. take it to the conspiracies forum. |
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steen
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| Posted: Mon May 08, 2006 11:37 pm Post subject: |
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| What a fascinating way to avoid dealing with challenges to your misrepresentation. |
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Plodder
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| Posted: Tue May 09, 2006 7:05 am Post subject: |
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| no its my posistion actually always has been from the start |
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LostSoul3412
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| Posted: Tue May 09, 2006 10:26 am Post subject: |
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Plodder wrote: no its my posistion actually always has been from the start
You're still defending character from the argument instead of challenging his points... |
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Plodder
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| Posted: Fri May 12, 2006 2:42 pm Post subject: |
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| I told him to take his positions of politics to the conspiracies forum. This is a forum about killing babies. |
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LostSoul3412
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| Posted: Fri May 12, 2006 2:54 pm Post subject: |
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Plodder wrote: I told him to take his positions of politics to the conspiracies forum. This is a forum about killing babies.
Actually, this is a forum about the relationship between abortion and masturbation. "Killing babies" was never an issue. |
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steen
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| Posted: Sat May 13, 2006 11:11 pm Post subject: |
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| Plodder wrote: I told him to take his positions of politics to the conspiracies forum. This is a forum about killing babies. See, niow you are lying AGAIN. There is no forum here about killing babies, never mind how much or how often you lie about it. All this shows is AGAIN that you are a habitual liar. |
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Plodder
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| Posted: Sun May 14, 2006 12:30 am Post subject: |
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| according to your belifs you belive that this is a forum not dedicated to baby killing.I do rvery one who recognizes what a human life is sees it this way and if you want to rant and rave , go ahead . |
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LostSoul3412
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| Posted: Sun May 14, 2006 1:52 am Post subject: |
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Plodder wrote: according to your belifs you belive that this is a forum not dedicated to baby killing.I do rvery one who recognizes what a human life is sees it this way and if you want to rant and rave , go ahead .
So does that mean that you back down and accept steen's arguments? Or are you simply running away because you can't support your arguments? |
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steen
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| Posted: Sun May 14, 2006 10:27 am Post subject: |
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Plodder wrote: according to your belifs you belive that this is a forum not dedicated to baby killing. Rather, as "baby" is a developmental stage beginning at birth, this forum has nothing to do with babies. You have yet to show the definition of Embryo or fetus that contains the word "baby" in them.
Quote: I do rvery one who recognizes what a human life is sees it this way Ah, ANOTHER lie. But we are no longer surprised that you seem to HAVE to lie in almost every one of your posts.
Quote: and if you want to rant and rave , go ahead . Calmly pointing out where you lie is not ranting. |
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Plodder
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| Posted: Mon May 15, 2006 7:14 pm Post subject: |
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| no, all of your posts are ranting |
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LostSoul3412
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| Posted: Mon May 15, 2006 8:22 pm Post subject: |
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Plodder wrote: no, all of your posts are ranting
His posts are arguing... and now it sounds like your points can't stand up to it...
Besides, if you're so right in what you believe, then stand up to some critizism when others argue against you instead of whining about it. |
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Plodder
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| Posted: Thu May 18, 2006 1:03 am Post subject: |
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| his overtly emotional hisronics : eg. "liar ;iar!!!!!!" are ranting |
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AllAmericanMan
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| Posted: Thu May 18, 2006 1:06 am Post subject: |
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| Back to the topic, no not at all. Sperm is just half the genetic code and will never develop into a fully grown adult on its own. I am extremely pro life and encourage masturbation as an alternative for someone who can not deal with raising a child. |
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Plodder
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| Posted: Thu May 18, 2006 1:21 am Post subject: |
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| I know i dont. like i said beofre you are a rare man. |
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steen
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| Posted: Thu May 18, 2006 10:51 am Post subject: |
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| AllAmericanMan wrote: Back to the topic, no not at all. Sperm is just half the genetic code and will never develop into a fully grown adult on its own. I am extremely pro life and encourage masturbation as an alternative for someone who can not deal with raising a child. Ah, but masturbation instead of impregnantion is denying the potential of a person who could cure cancer, right? |
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AllAmericanMan
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| Posted: Thu May 18, 2006 11:51 am Post subject: |
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| Quote: Ah, but masturbation instead of impregnantion is denying the potential of a person who could cure cancer, right? No as I explained very clearly, a sperm will never grow intoa human on its own and it carries only half the genetic code. Only through conception is a new unique human individual formed. |
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LostSoul3412
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| Posted: Thu May 18, 2006 1:13 pm Post subject: |
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AllAmericanMan wrote: No as I explained very clearly, a sperm will never grow intoa human on its own and it carries only half the genetic code. Only through conception is a new unique human individual formed.
Just as an egg will not develop into an embryo on its own either, so I will agree with you on that issue and say that if masturbation is killing, then any female that menstrates is a killer.
However, I still don't believe that conception is the moment of life. |
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